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Old 05-24-2011, 08:40 PM   #1
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ZL1-LSA-MR+LS7+Pedders Coilovers = Z28?

What are your thoughts?

I'd buy one factory built now!
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That would be great!
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lol so the car is going to have 2 engines? ooops read to fast corrected....ps the ls7 is to expensive for them to mass produce it probably aint going to happen
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LS7 is going to stop being mass produced as soon as the next gen Corvette comes

I thought people wanted a lightweight Z28?

The LS7 is pretty heavy, and it's more expensive to produce than it's worth.
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LS7 is going to stop being mass produced as soon as the next gen Corvette comes

I thought people wanted a lightweight Z28?

The LS7 is pretty heavy
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Old 05-26-2011, 02:47 PM   #6
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I really think the gen 5 Z28, if one is made, will be the SS + "track pack" + Z28 badging...no new engine. I think the gen 6 Z28 has more potential as rumors indicate a possible 5.5L V8 in the lineup. That could leave the SS with a new 6.2L and the Z28 with the race insprired 5.5L V8.
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Old 05-26-2011, 04:05 PM   #7
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LS7 is going to stop being mass produced as soon as the next gen Corvette comes

I thought people wanted a lightweight Z28?

The LS7 is pretty heavy, and it's more expensive to produce than it's worth.
Why not just do it for the 5Gen? One last BIG hurrah!!!
Then 6Gen can be what it has to be.
The LS7 is not much more in weight than an LS3. I think we understand the weight is what it is. So now how do we manage what we got? Power and handling!!!
This combo would tear the Boss a new one or two!
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Why not just do it for the 5Gen? One last BIG hurrah!!!
Then 6Gen can be what it has to be.
The LS7 is not much more in weight than an LS3. I think we understand the weight is what it is. So now how do we manage what we got? Power and handling!!!
This combo would tear the Boss a new one or two!
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I'm going to play along and agree with LS7 and a Track Pack (Pedders or Pfadt work with GM, so...), but leave the MR and a similar wheel and tire package. I don't know if I believe it would be in the ball park $$$ of the Supervisor 5.0, but I also don't expect them to be built in as many numbers as ZL1.
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LS7 is going to stop being mass produced as soon as the next gen Corvette comes

I thought people wanted a lightweight Z28?

The LS7 is pretty heavy, and it's more expensive to produce than it's worth.
Its not that heavy, I'm thinking 440 lbs for the LS7 vs 420 lbs for the LS3. It is expensive though, costing about the same as an LSA.
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I thought MR replaced coilovers. You can't have both, can you?
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I thought MR replaced coilovers. You can't have both, can you?
re-read it ...

ZL1 -LSA -MR+ LS7 + Pedders Coilovers = Z28
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:19 PM   #13
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re-read it ...

ZL1 -LSA -MR+ LS7 + Pedders Coilovers = Z28
Are we going to stick with dry sump or switch over? Maybe he was thinking about that too All I know is, I think that'd be a super send-off to an iconic Chevy engine displacement.
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Old 05-27-2011, 09:30 AM   #15
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^Exactly!!!
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Old 05-27-2011, 10:16 AM   #16
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I would buy that. Something simple yet potent. Don't need the LS7 either. Tweek the LS3. Cheaper still.
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GM,
Why not make a Z28 for the 5Gen? Use the LS7 before it fades into oblivion! Make a car that declares we at GM love our street/track enthusiast! A car that will be remembered for the fact that GM could and they did!
I know the ZL1 is the "it" car, but F**d has the Gt500 and the Boss. Why you ask? Two different buyers, the I want it all Grand Touring customer and the corner carver/track customer. The Z28 would/could be a parts binner. It would market itself no doubt.
Just build it!!!
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Are we going to stick with dry sump or switch over? Maybe he was thinking about that too
LS7, converted to wet sump, with ZL1 wheels/tires = 1SS Curb Weight.

As Production-ready, currently, LS3 = 426hp, while LS7 = 505hp...maybe 500 with Camaro exhaust (remember, Vette LS3 = 430, Base...).

Co$t$? Priced as crate engines from GM PP, LS7 is LE$$ than LSA, even after purchasing the necessary controller and harness. Partial credit for deleted LS3, so...

1SS + LS7 + HD MN6 + Forged 20s + FE4 = low-$40s (BOSS money).

But ya gotta wanna do it...
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I like your math
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LS7, converted to wet sump, with ZL1 wheels/tires = 1SS Curb Weight.

As Production-ready, currently, LS3 = 426hp, while LS7 = 505hp...maybe 500 with Camaro exhaust (remember, Vette LS3 = 430, Base...).

Co$t$? Priced as crate engines from GM PP, LS7 is LE$$ than LSA, even after purchasing the necessary controller and harness. Partial credit for deleted LS3, so...

1SS + LS7 + HD MN6 + Forged 20s + FE4 = low-$40s (BOSS money).

But ya gotta wanna do it...
Isn't our cam different than 'Vette's LS3? Regardless - That's a nice combo' you've got there
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Isn't our cam different than 'Vette's LS3? Regardless - That's a nice combo' you've got there
I believe it is the exhaust that allows an extra 5HP in the Vette.
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LS7, converted to wet sump, with ZL1 wheels/tires = 1SS Curb Weight.

As Production-ready, currently, LS3 = 426hp, while LS7 = 505hp...maybe 500 with Camaro exhaust (remember, Vette LS3 = 430, Base...).

Co$t$? Priced as crate engines from GM PP, LS7 is LE$$ than LSA, even after purchasing the necessary controller and harness. Partial credit for deleted LS3, so...

1SS + LS7 + HD MN6 + Forged 20s + FE4 = low-$40s (BOSS money).

But ya gotta wanna do it...
I think your right.
$7,000. Difference between the LS7 & LS3. Then $31,000. For a SS1. $2,000. For the suspension. Wheels, HD drivetrain & Misc. $3,000. - $4,000. More = $43,000.+. All from the parts bin. Just think of how easy it would be to market a 427 Z28,

Oh, what dreams are made of.
I'll buy one right now! Just badge it Z28!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why not Number 3?
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LS7 block
LS7 crank
PM rods
LS7 pistons
LS3 heads and intake

470 HP 470 TQ

There, 427 inch motor, way cheaper than LS7
and more under the curve power than a hopped up LS3
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I believe it is the exhaust that allows an extra 5HP in the Vette.
cam and exhaust are different
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If it can be kept to 3,800 lbs. And RWHP is 435 we get a 11.99 1/4 mile at 113.5 mph.
I say bring the Boss(?) on!
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