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Old 06-10-2011, 12:20 PM   #326
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Yes Doc is doing an awesome build. Any of us can follow his design for ourselves, however GM will do what they can. Just a reminder the *oss is somewhat heavier than the GT, yet its performance is much greater. GM can do the same with the Camaro, just look at what Pedders and Pfadt have accomplished.
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Yes Doc is doing an awesome build. Any of us can follow his design for ourselves, however GM will do what they can. Just a reminder the *oss is somewhat heavier than the GT, yet its performance is much greater. GM can do the same with the Camaro, just look at what Pedders and Pfadt have accomplished.
theres no doubt what GM can do, its what will they do. the question yet to be answered until that time
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Old 06-10-2011, 12:35 PM   #328
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theres no doubt what GM can do, its what will they do. the question yet to be answered until that time
Yes, and that my friend is the reason for this thread.
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Old 06-10-2011, 12:40 PM   #329
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sorry was having a bad day yesterday apparently. i see all your points now are right thanks for not blasting me too badly lol
No apology needed, and welcome to The Z/28 group.

We've been working on this car for a while now with hopes of it materializing.
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You can't really compare the ZO6 to the Camaro, as far as it being a track car, with that engine in their due to weight and gearing, it still gets what, like 26 MPG? in the camaro it might get 16-19. It seems to me, most companies are looking more towards fuel effeciency because of CAFE. the ZL1 can get away with it because of the super charger and the same displacement 6.2 as the LS3.
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You can't really compare the ZO6 to the Camaro, as far as it being a track car, with that engine in their due to weight and gearing, it still gets what, like 26 MPG? in the camaro it might get 16-19. It seems to me, most companies are looking more towards fuel effeciency because of CAFE. the ZL1 can get away with it because of the super charger and the same displacement 6.2 as the LS3.
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Old 06-10-2011, 02:04 PM   #332
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Old 06-10-2011, 02:09 PM   #333
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Old 06-10-2011, 03:48 PM   #334
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Just sitting here alone laughing. That is just funny right there.

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When can we put in our orders?
Apparently now, according the latest photographic evidence.
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You can't really compare the ZO6 to the Camaro, as far as it being a track car, with that engine in their due to weight and gearing, it still gets what, like 26 MPG? in the camaro it might get 16-19. It seems to me, most companies are looking more towards fuel effeciency because of CAFE. the ZL1 can get away with it because of the super charger and the same displacement 6.2 as the LS3.
Well ... the Z06 gets 15/24 while the manual LS3 Corvettes get 16/26 vs 16/24 in the Camaro. Based on that, I'd expect an LS7 Camaro to be about 14/22 which isn't too bad and probably better than the ZL1 will get.

Anyway, sales volume is as important to CAFE as fuel economy itself. So even if a performance car doesn't get that great of fuel economy, their total sales are nothing next to the millions of vehicles that GM sells each year.
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:14 PM   #338
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Just sitting here alone laughing. That is just funny right there.



Apparently now, according the latest photographic evidence.
Actually now that you mention it reminds me of those UFO and Bigfoot pics I took... That means yes we will have an LS7 based Z28!
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On a more serious note, where would you want the Z28 & 427 emblems placed?
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Old 06-10-2011, 10:38 PM   #340
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On a more serious note, where would you want the Z28 & 427 emblems placed?
Z/28 = drivers side grill minus the bowtie, rear tail pan, maybe fenders.

427 = either the fenders or the hood. Which ever looks the best.
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Old 06-10-2011, 11:09 PM   #341
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Hmmm, what if it did possibly get a GenV?

Just sayin'. :emoticon7:
Would we have to wait on a Gen VI Camaro?
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Hmmm, what if the 5th gen did possibly get a GenV?

Just sayin'. :emoticon7:
If the Z28 does, so will the SS at about the same time ...
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Old 06-11-2011, 12:32 AM   #343
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IF it does, that would be a safe bet.

On a side note, the next gen Mustang is coming for '14 and everything about it sounds REALLY good. Probably a good time for some Camaro updates.


Again, just sayin'.
Rumours almost always sound better than reality too ... just sayin'
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Old 06-11-2011, 01:41 PM   #344
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It was announced that the ZL1 will get an automatic transmission. It was also stated that the ZL1 with be the ultimate drag strip, and track car. That just doesn't look good for us Z/28 dreamers.
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Old 06-11-2011, 04:01 PM   #345
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As much as I like what I'm hearing in regards the ZL1, I fear it will be quite pricey thereby leaving much room for the Z28. I hope.
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I can really hear and understand what all of you are saying with the corvette being the supreme GM car. That it should get the Gen V motor first. But in the same regards, it makes more sense for the Z28 to get it first, it is a higher volume car (the camaro in general) the LS7 is expensive as hell and would make the camaro version that much more unattainable for the average Joe. GM is in the business to make money and they would sell a hell of a lot more "Z28's" then they would the new corvette with it in it. That recoups the R&D costs quicker. Who says that the Corvette can't get a better version of a DI GenV motor? Maybe more along the lines of a 6.2L DI? LS3 motor we have in our cars is the low grade corvette motor and it is rated for less HP than in the corvette. It can stay the top dog, but Gm can make more money off of the 5.5L in the camaro...just sayin.
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Ya know, after 8 years without a Camaro in production, I'm just glad we can discuss these things. I remember signing up for some website in 2003 or 2004 that let people "sign a petition" to bring back the Camaro. Then I found this website in 2006. I've owned six Camaros (four z/28s) over the last 20 years and still have two in my garage. At some point I do hope to get a 5th gen or maybe even a 6th gen!

Ok back on topic. At some point I'm sure we will see a z/28 again. This month's Car Craft had an old quote attributed to Al Oppenheiser about the Camaro's rich naming history that the team can choose from as they roll out new models. I think one thing we can all agree on is that the z/28 name is by far the name/model that is most associated with the Camaro brand.

Have faith, it will be back. Not sure if it will be a 5th or 6th gen, but I'm holding out hope that we will see it back as both a 5th and 6th gen!!!!
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The "Point" of this thread is how can we prove a 5Gen Z28 is possible and warranted.
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The "Point" of this thread is how can we prove a 5Gen Z28 is possible and warranted.
Possibility is easy: Yes!! Warranted investment is almost impossible for anyone other than those behind the locked doors...
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I guess that "points" vary from person to person. A DI smallblock V8 is possible in a gen5 camaro. Why wouldn't it be? They have a V6 version now and they have been testing the DI platform for 5 years. Do you really think GM is happy standing pat with just a V6 DI engine. 2013/14 are still two model years away!! How long do you think that they test cars/engines for? I am sure that there is a mule camaro and corvettealready somewhere hidden somewhere with one in it. The cost of the LS7 does not warrant the production of a Z28, pushing for it I think actually inhibits it.
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