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Old 06-15-2011, 06:57 PM   #251
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I think this will be helpful as a reference.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop...qF_Xzjl4&gl=US


Based on the numbers in this vid, how much power and weight would the Z need to gain/lose to get into the sub 3 sec 0 to 60 and sub 12 sec 1/4 mile?
Assuming you meant sub 4 sec 0-60, I'd say that a 4100 lb ZL1 with 560 hp should manage to pull both of those off.
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:38 PM   #252
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Assuming you meant sub 4 sec 0-60
Yes indeed. I thought about that after posting.
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Will the auto have an automatic start from the key?
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:50 PM   #254
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Will the auto have an automatic start from the key?
One would assume so as it's already available on the 2SS.
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Assuming you meant sub 4 sec 0-60, I'd say that a 4100 lb ZR1 with 560 hp should manage to pull both of those off.
....and I would assume you meant ZL1.....
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:49 PM   #256
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GT500 base model is $48,800.

That's what we're being competitive with, so I'm guessing about the same to just under 50k. 55-57k all loaded up with options.


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If they make the SSX rims as an option, the Stripe down the center and the Traction Management, thats easily over $55-57k. You think the GM rims being offered now are what, $4,xxx? I'm sure you'll be able to add the Heritage Grille as well and Gas cap cover and whatever else. I get what your saying though, i just think it'll be over the $57k figure for a FULLY loaded ZL-1.
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thanks for the additional info. still don't care for the auto though. I'll take mine in a manual. And I hope they don't do convertibles. I'm getting more excited everyday.
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Old 06-15-2011, 10:41 PM   #258
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If they make the SSX rims as an option, the Stripe down the center and the Traction Management, thats easily over $55-57k. You think the GM rims being offered now are what, $4,xxx? I'm sure you'll be able to add the Heritage Grille as well and Gas cap cover and whatever else. I get what your saying though, i just think it'll be over the $57k figure for a FULLY loaded ZL-1.

You may be right.


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Old 06-16-2011, 12:56 AM   #259
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....and I would assume you meant ZL1.....
touche ... lol

*edit* then again ... such a ZR1 should be able to do the same
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:10 AM   #260
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thanks for the additional info. still don't care for the auto though. I'll take mine in a manual. And I hope they don't do convertibles. I'm getting more excited everyday.
I like the idea of having the manual and auto. It lets more people who want one able to get one. And if they aim to compete with the Shelby, the convertible is probably inevitable at some point. Hopefully along with a auto and manual 427 Z28 to compete with the Boss 302.
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I figure after the first year or two we will see a convertible. As for the Z28 I am wondering if this gen we will see it or if next gen we will see it. And I am glad for the auto option. I don't mind a manual and find them fun at times, but at the end of the day an auto is much more enjoyable with how traffic is nowadays at least in my area.
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Relax, people. 551hp is "more" than 550, too.
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Relax, people. 551hp is "more" than 550, too.
Actually Al said it would have more than the CTS-V, which is rated at 556hp. But do you honestly believe they are going to add just 1hp extra after making a statement like that?
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Actually Al said it would have more than the CTS-V, which is rated at 556hp. But do you honestly believe they are going to add just 1hp extra after making a statement like that?
Understood; but the title and body of this story on camaro5.com used 550hp as the number. 557?

I hope they add another 40 hp before the next GT500 eats its lunch.
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Understood; but the title and body of this story on camaro5.com used 550hp as the number. 557?

I hope they add another 40 hp before the next GT500 eats its lunch.
It will eat the Shelby with only the 556......the CTS V does that with extra weight. Hell.....I ate Shelbys with 550 in my SS.
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Understood; but the title and body of this story on camaro5.com used 550hp as the number. 557?

I hope they add another 40 hp before the next GT500 eats its lunch.
The problem with the GT500 is grip, not power. They can add 50 hp if they like, but if it can't manage to put it down ... . 305s, MR suspension, & PTM will go a long way towards maximizing available grip in the ZL1
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The problem with the GT500 is grip, not power. They can add 50 hp if they like, but if it can't manage to put it down ... . 305s, MR suspension, & PTM will go a long way towards maximizing available grip in the ZL1
It's 305s now? I thought they were going with the 295 Goodyears?
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It's 305s now? I thought they were going with the 295 Goodyears?
I'm pretty sure its 285 front / 305 rear
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I'm pretty sure its 285 front / 305 rear
That's even better!
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I'm pretty sure its 285 front / 305 rear
Yes, according to Chevrolet the ZL1 will come with Goodyear Supercar F1 G2 tires - Front: 285/30/20 Rear: 305/35/20
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It will eat the Shelby with only the 556......the CTS V does that with extra weight. Hell.....I ate Shelbys with 550 in my SS.

True, but the issue is that the Shelby that they bring to market shortly after the ZL1 is going to be a whole other animal. I don't know how much they'll address the traction issues, but rumors are 600+hp.

That's the target the ZL1 will have to compete with, not the old model.
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The problem with the GT500 is grip, not power. They can add 50 hp if they like, but if it can't manage to put it down ... . 305s, MR suspension, & PTM will go a long way towards maximizing available grip in the ZL1
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True, but the issue is that the Shelby that they bring to market shortly after the ZL1 is going to be a whole other animal. I don't know how much they'll address the traction issues, but rumors are 600+hp.

That's the target the ZL1 will have to compete with, not the old model.
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Actually Al said it would have more than the CTS-V, which is rated at 556hp. But do you honestly believe they are going to add just 1hp extra after making a statement like that?
I agree but remember when the Camaro SS's final hp figures came out...it happened to be only 1hp more than the Challenger's SRT8 (425hp) making it 426hp? I was like WTF!!! So I hope they won't do it to the ZL1.
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