Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
TireRack
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Forced Induction - V8


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-07-2009, 09:20 PM   #15
CamaroSpike23
Truth Enforcer
 
CamaroSpike23's Avatar
 
Drives: anything I can get my hands on
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Posts: 22,824
Send a message via Yahoo to CamaroSpike23
Quote:
Originally Posted by speedster View Post
Thanks spike. Methods and ideas for increased performance from people such as yourself is why these message boards are so great.

I'll be sure to bring it up.

Thank You Again.
yeah, no prob. and if he can throw some insight as to why he set it up that way (cus who knows, it might be better) let me know.
__________________
Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff
A group as a whole tends to be smarter than the smartest person in that group until one jackass convinces everyone otherwise.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BowtieGuy View Post
Nobody makes CamaroSpike happy. You just disgust him a little less than other people.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WheelmanSS View Post
Post count is truly an accurate measure of how cool someone is on the Internet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Norris View Post
I piss excellence
and fart awesomeness
"You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.”
Quote:
Originally Posted by Overflow View Post
But not all people were born awesome like you, Spike.
CamaroSpike23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2009, 10:03 PM   #16
Mr Twisty


 
Mr Twisty's Avatar
 
Drives: the 2nd amendment home
Join Date: May 2008
Location: OK
Posts: 14,058
With all the custom fabricating and welds, looks like it belongs in an art gallery
__________________
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin
Mr Twisty is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2009, 10:19 PM   #17
Muscle Master
SS Lightning
 
Muscle Master's Avatar
 
Drives: An SRT8
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Cinnaminson, NJ
Posts: 2,285
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23 View Post
cool, tho I wonder why they chose to mount the wastegates past a 90* angle from the downpipe. maybe its just for room clearance and whatnot, but I would change that before putting it into my car. dunno, but ive always tried to keep it set up like this.
Was a little confused, but now I understand, good lookin out, because that did sounded weird to me to a wastegate past 90*

I swear you are the Shit Spike
__________________

Quote:
The first rule of modding something that's not American is to not try to compete with modded V8 cars that are American. Really, they can run insane power with little investment. It's not even a fair fight.
Camaro 2SS RS, IBM, White Rally Stripes, custom fuel door: Status: going to the dealer: soon
Muscle Master is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2009, 10:12 AM   #18
CamaroSpike23
Truth Enforcer
 
CamaroSpike23's Avatar
 
Drives: anything I can get my hands on
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Posts: 22,824
Send a message via Yahoo to CamaroSpike23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muscle Master View Post
I swear you are the Shit Spike
actually, I have psychological problem where I have to find flaws with everything in life. im just more vocal about it when it comes to engines.
__________________
Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff
A group as a whole tends to be smarter than the smartest person in that group until one jackass convinces everyone otherwise.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BowtieGuy View Post
Nobody makes CamaroSpike happy. You just disgust him a little less than other people.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WheelmanSS View Post
Post count is truly an accurate measure of how cool someone is on the Internet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Norris View Post
I piss excellence
and fart awesomeness
"You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.”
Quote:
Originally Posted by Overflow View Post
But not all people were born awesome like you, Spike.
CamaroSpike23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2009, 10:37 AM   #19
1320junkie
Account Suspended
 
Drives: The Imperial Army
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: The Darkside
Posts: 15,741
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23 View Post
actually, I have (insert the letter a here) psychological problem where I have to find flaws with everything in life. im just more vocal about it when it comes to engines.
You forgot the letter "a" and it's "I'm" not "im".....lmao....just kidding..
1320junkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2009, 10:45 AM   #20
Andro
NOICE!!! ™
 
Andro's Avatar
 
Drives: Force Fed 427
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: GOT BOOST?
Posts: 5,214
OMG! If only I had 20K for a twin turbo set-up
__________________
Andro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2009, 11:01 AM   #21
CamaroSpike23
Truth Enforcer
 
CamaroSpike23's Avatar
 
Drives: anything I can get my hands on
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Posts: 22,824
Send a message via Yahoo to CamaroSpike23
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1320junkie View Post
You forgot the letter "a" and it's "I'm" not "im".....lmao....just kidding..
I also purposefully mistype so that I can find others with the same problem....
__________________
Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff
A group as a whole tends to be smarter than the smartest person in that group until one jackass convinces everyone otherwise.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BowtieGuy View Post
Nobody makes CamaroSpike happy. You just disgust him a little less than other people.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WheelmanSS View Post
Post count is truly an accurate measure of how cool someone is on the Internet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Norris View Post
I piss excellence
and fart awesomeness
"You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.”
Quote:
Originally Posted by Overflow View Post
But not all people were born awesome like you, Spike.
CamaroSpike23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2009, 11:07 AM   #22
1320junkie
Account Suspended
 
Drives: The Imperial Army
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: The Darkside
Posts: 15,741
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23 View Post
I also purposefully mistype so that I can find others with the same problem....
Damn foiled by Spike again
1320junkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2009, 12:56 PM   #23
zebra
just can't seem to leave
 
zebra's Avatar
 
Drives: your mom wild!!
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: cold & windy
Posts: 10,526
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1320junkie View Post
Damn foiled by Spike again
don't worry... it happens to everybody all the time!
zebra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2009, 11:46 AM   #24
CamaroSpike23
Truth Enforcer
 
CamaroSpike23's Avatar
 
Drives: anything I can get my hands on
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Posts: 22,824
Send a message via Yahoo to CamaroSpike23
bump... any updates?
__________________
Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff
A group as a whole tends to be smarter than the smartest person in that group until one jackass convinces everyone otherwise.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BowtieGuy View Post
Nobody makes CamaroSpike happy. You just disgust him a little less than other people.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WheelmanSS View Post
Post count is truly an accurate measure of how cool someone is on the Internet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Norris View Post
I piss excellence
and fart awesomeness
"You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.”
Quote:
Originally Posted by Overflow View Post
But not all people were born awesome like you, Spike.
CamaroSpike23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2009, 01:29 PM   #25
speedster
SST...
 
speedster's Avatar
 
Drives: SST Camaro 2010
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: East Coast of Florida
Posts: 5,935
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23 View Post
bump... any updates?
Sent your suggestions to Tom Nelson.
__________________
speedster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2009, 03:06 PM   #26
CamaroSpike23
Truth Enforcer
 
CamaroSpike23's Avatar
 
Drives: anything I can get my hands on
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Posts: 22,824
Send a message via Yahoo to CamaroSpike23
Quote:
Originally Posted by speedster View Post
Sent your suggestions to Tom Nelson.
cool. cant wait to hear from him.
__________________
Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff
A group as a whole tends to be smarter than the smartest person in that group until one jackass convinces everyone otherwise.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BowtieGuy View Post
Nobody makes CamaroSpike happy. You just disgust him a little less than other people.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WheelmanSS View Post
Post count is truly an accurate measure of how cool someone is on the Internet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Norris View Post
I piss excellence
and fart awesomeness
"You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.”
Quote:
Originally Posted by Overflow View Post
But not all people were born awesome like you, Spike.
CamaroSpike23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2009, 04:27 PM   #27
speedster
SST...
 
speedster's Avatar
 
Drives: SST Camaro 2010
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: East Coast of Florida
Posts: 5,935
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23 View Post
cool. cant wait to hear from him.
Tom said the black monoblade is bitchin'. It is a fly by wire unit. He can get me one for an upcharge if I want it. Said it is good for a few extra hp. Was trying to keep my cost from creeping. He has used monoblades on some of his other builds.

As far as the wastegates, he said that he has them at less than 90 degrees on many cars, but for this case it makes the dump tubes really short for a clean (and quiet) install. Also he said that on this combo, there is no boost creep since these are 44mm Tial wastegates which is overkill for 60mm turbos. He said the 90 degrees is a factor with wastegates that may be sized too small.

Thanks for you info Spike.
__________________
speedster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2009, 07:03 PM   #28
CamaroSpike23
Truth Enforcer
 
CamaroSpike23's Avatar
 
Drives: anything I can get my hands on
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Posts: 22,824
Send a message via Yahoo to CamaroSpike23
Quote:
Originally Posted by speedster View Post
Tom said the black monoblade is bitchin'. It is a fly by wire unit. He can get me one for an upcharge if I want it. Said it is good for a few extra hp. Was trying to keep my cost from creeping. He has used monoblades on some of his other builds.

As far as the wastegates, he said that he has them at less than 90 degrees on many cars, but for this case it makes the dump tubes really short for a clean (and quiet) install. Also he said that on this combo, there is no boost creep since these are 44mm Tial wastegates which is overkill for 60mm turbos. He said the 90 degrees is a factor with wastegates that may be sized too small.

Thanks for you info Spike.

the monoblade I posted was just a random one from AS&M, but if he can integrate it, thats cool. i prefer not using fly by wire t/b. just me.
but they aren't always cheap either. lol

and its not really just the size of the wastegate that is the problem. having the tubing run at less than 90* forces the exhaust to have to essentially do a U-turn to go back to the wastegate which could diminish the actual capability of the wastegate and lead to overboosting. he says there is no boost creep, and I'll take his word that there isnt. but a 44mm wastegate at a 60* angle wont necessarily flow as well as a 38mm at a 120* angle. the size might be overkill, but the flow might not be. now, with the size of the piping and wastegate, it might not be a problem. but as I said in an earlier post, if im going to spend $20k on a motor, I would definately change a few things.
__________________
Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff
A group as a whole tends to be smarter than the smartest person in that group until one jackass convinces everyone otherwise.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BowtieGuy View Post
Nobody makes CamaroSpike happy. You just disgust him a little less than other people.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WheelmanSS View Post
Post count is truly an accurate measure of how cool someone is on the Internet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Norris View Post
I piss excellence
and fart awesomeness
"You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.”
Quote:
Originally Posted by Overflow View Post
But not all people were born awesome like you, Spike.

Last edited by CamaroSpike23; 03-13-2009 at 08:01 PM.
CamaroSpike23 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Would you Twin Turbo for the right price? peteypab2133 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 79 11-09-2009 05:57 PM
LS3 Specs revealed: GM's 436hp Sick 6.2L LS3 TAG UR IT Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 28 07-30-2009 06:02 PM
2011 mustang possible Twin turbo V6 Devil-eyes General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion 40 03-19-2009 03:00 PM
HSV Clubsport R8 317 LS3 twin turbo Caliman93230 Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 15 10-15-2008 10:42 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.