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Old 12-11-2007, 11:21 PM   #76
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Totally off topic here.

Looks like someone dressed up as the Real F/X Gargoyle this Halloween. LOL I'm assuming that's you in your icon.
farm boy got jokes...
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:29 PM   #77
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Farm boy? I hope we are not trying to be derogatory here...

Next question...why in the world do you think they would have a sticker going across the rear window that says, "left hand drive" ..?????

Because maybe there's another that says, "RIGHT hand drive?"
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:54 PM   #78
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farm boy got jokes...
Huh? No, seriously, that mask in your icon is the REAL F/X Gargoyle mask.

I know, I dressed up as it to hand out candy this Halloween-





Me and my friend Theresa Halloween night...

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Old 12-12-2007, 12:01 AM   #79
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I disappear for 12 hours and I come back to find a page and a half of new camo shots. Seeing those shots of the concepts below the camo shots proves that the two are indeed nearly identical as promised (well, from what we can see). Its nice to see all the new members and those that haven't been around much posting. Oh, and how many people would have followed those cars while they were driving down the highway? I know I would have
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:02 AM   #80
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I would have followed them until I got lost, just about ran out of gas, and had my wife hitting me over and over saying, "WE HAVE STUFF TO DO!!!" Yeah...I would have followed...and taken as many pictures as I could have.


Very cool outfit/mask Ellwyn, but back on topic!!!
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:21 AM   #81
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Farm boy? I hope we are not trying to be derogatory here...

Next question...why in the world do you think they would have a sticker going across the rear window that says, "left hand drive" ..?????

Because maybe there's another that says, "RIGHT hand drive?"
I see where you are going but I beleive that this is mandated by Australian law that left hand drive vehicles be labled as such.
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:07 AM   #82
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I see where you are going but I beleive that this is mandated by Australian law that left hand drive vehicles be labled as such.
I concur.
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Old 12-12-2007, 02:16 AM   #83
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Can I have it in yellow please?! My son would kill me if i got one and it wasnt in yellow with black stripes (yes i know i know - its Bumblebee before anyone points it out!!)
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Old 12-12-2007, 02:33 AM   #84
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You know what - I like that. They've toned it down a touch, but in all honesty - it couldn't look much closer to the concept, could it?

I'm excited! Want. Now!
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There were a few comments about how the shots from the rear look wrong, like the vehicle is too tall and narrow. I think it's largely due to these bits of camo here, which aren't actually covering the body, but rather just interrupting the view...



Anyway, I love the side-view, it's obvious that it will represent historic muscle with pride, but won't just be a retro re-make.



Loving it. I've been waiting for these spyshots to leak for ages <3

Edit: The arrows represent the rear covers I'm talking about. Those are covering the natural lines of the car, not contouring to them... I'm 99% sure at least.
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Old 12-12-2007, 02:35 AM   #86
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I see where you are going but I beleive that this is mandated by Australian law that left hand drive vehicles be labled as such.
Hi guys,

Thought I'd clear this one up for you.... As you would know we have right hand drive cars in oz.... any car under 30 years of age cannot be registered in most states (there is a few states however that allow registration of cars LHD regardless of age cant remember em all? WA is one though...) The only way to have a vehicle 30 years or less registered is with a special permit.... its quite involved but permits are available... for vehicles under 30 years of age that are LHD and have a permit, They must wear a "left hand drive" sign somewhere on the back..

For cars 30 years and older they can stay LHD and don't need to be labelled!!! Hence I've left my 69 Camaro LHD... I like it better cos it was born that way!

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Old 12-12-2007, 02:48 AM   #87
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Hi Kurt. Thanks for clearing that up and welcome to the boards.
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Hi guys,

Thought I'd clear this one up for you.... As you would know we have right hand drive cars in oz.... any car under 30 years of age cannot be registered in most states (there is a few states however that allow registration of cars LHD regardless of age cant remember em all? WA is one though...) The only way to have a vehicle 30 years or less registered is with a special permit.... its quite involved but permits are available... for vehicles under 30 years of age that are LHD and have a permit, They must wear a "left hand drive" sign somewhere on the back..

For cars 30 years and older they can stay LHD and don't need to be labelled!!! Hence I've left my 69 Camaro LHD... I like it better cos it was born that way!

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Welcome to the boards, Kurt....and thanks as well. When I saw the sign, you all probably understand what I figured. If there was one, there had to be another. Not because all cars there are RHD, but just due to the labeling factor. Oh well...thought the RHD guys might have gotten a kick out of that one. Guess I was wrong. But, thanks again!
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Old 12-12-2007, 03:42 AM   #89
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I already hate the door handles......and I pray they didn't move the fuel filler door.
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Old 12-12-2007, 05:16 AM   #90
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I already hate the door handles......and I pray they didn't move the fuel filler door.
Door handles appear to be very similar to our latest commodore being sold as Pontiac G8 over there and probably expect they aren't likely to change. Could be wrong though
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Old 12-12-2007, 06:56 AM   #91
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Can I have it in yellow please?! My son would kill me if i got one and it wasnt in yellow with black stripes (yes i know i know - its Bumblebee before anyone points it out!!)
Hey that's the color I want, don't be ashamed!
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Old 12-12-2007, 08:32 AM   #92
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chevy brought sexy back!!!!! god damn!!!!! oh and i noticed something too. the car that Ed Welburn is hugging on the first pic that was released, people were complaining for the lack of the rear spoiler ... well look at the wheels on that car and now look at the new photos and find the car with the same wheels parked next to the blue mustang. no spoiler, but the other camaro next to it has one. what's to make of it???
This confirms that there are four cars. In the first two pics where you can easily see three cars, none of them have that spoiler. One of the two next to the mustangs does have a spoiler. Therefore, there must be at least FOUR test cars!
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Old 12-12-2007, 08:35 AM   #93
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This confirms that there are four cars. In the first two pics where you can easily see three cars, none of them have that spoiler. One of the two next to the mustangs does have a spoiler. Therefore, there must be at least FOUR test cars!
I rcvd a call last week from a friend at the Milford proving grounds that there was a prototype on the track out there.
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Old 12-12-2007, 08:54 AM   #94
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This confirms that there are four cars. In the first two pics where you can easily see three cars, none of them have that spoiler. One of the two next to the mustangs does have a spoiler. Therefore, there must be at least FOUR test cars!
Really now....Am I missing something? I'm beginning to feel more and more dumb. All of the cars I've seen have a spoiler, and spoiler cover...my understanding was that due to all the camo, Any spoiler would be 'flattened out' Giving the decklid a look of a flatness, while still having a curved back. And the poor angle of that side pic wouldn't allow us to see any spoiler anyhow, right?





ANYWAYS Does anybody get the impression that our baby is smaller than the current Mustang?

Though GM people did say that the concept v Production dimensions should only change by fractions of an inch...the numbers still kinda support that observation:

Vert concept (L, W, H) [in]:.....186.2......79.6....53.
Mustang (L, W, H) [in]:...........187.6......74.......54.
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I was going to say that myself, but I just wonder if it's because it sits lower then the 'stang?
But from what you can see through the camo, there is very little difference bewteen the concept and these cars, down to the rear brake vents(wonder if they work or are just for show?)I mean sure we lost the mirrors and the door handles(neither deal breakers).
What I really want to see is pics of the insides and under the hood .




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Really now....Am I missing something? I'm beginning to feel more and more dumb. All of the cars I've seen have a spoiler, and spoiler cover...my understanding was that due to all the camo, Any spoiler would be 'flattened out' Giving the decklid a look of a flatness, while still having a curved back. And the poor angle of that side pic wouldn't allow us to see any spoiler anyhow, right?





ANYWAYS Does anybody get the impression that our baby is smaller than the current Mustang?

Though GM people did say that the concept v Production dimensions should only change by fractions of an inch...the numbers still kinda support that observation:

Vert concept (L, W, H) [in]:.....186.2......79.6....53.
Mustang (L, W, H) [in]:...........187.6......74.......54.
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Old 12-12-2007, 11:28 AM   #96
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down to the rear brake vents(wonder if they work or are just for show?)
The gills are there, but they are just creases in the body panel. They are not open, and I didn't think they would just because of structural issues.
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OK, I'm a Mustang owner and fan, but I loved the Camaro concept the moment I saw those grainy images GM pulled a couple of years ago, and I've got to say, WOW! It looks awesome and makes the two Mustangs beside it look tall and frumpy! It's got a fabulous stance.

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Ok, I've got a question.

If the Camaro is supposed to look so much like the concept, why even use the camo at all?

The big changes are the mirrors, the door handles and the dimensions, none of which are hidden by the camo at all.

The only thing I can see that they might want to hide for a while is the gas cap placement and wheel size, but these don't necessitate a camo job this complex.

The only thing I can figure is that there must be some changes that we don't yet know about. Otherwise, if Ford or Dodge wanted to see what the Camaro was going to look like, all they really have to do is look at any one of the many Concept photos out there.
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I'm pretty sure they are justwanting to keep final production shape pictures out of the hands of the public for as long as possible.

I think it's because the longer a car in its FINAL FORM is in the eyes of the consumer, the less fresh and exciting it looks. It comes down to marketting. Even though the camo barely hides anything, it keeps us wanting to see the final product.

I'm cool with the camo.
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I'm pretty sure they are justwanting to keep final production shape pictures out of the hands of the public for as long as possible.

I think it's because the longer a car in its FINAL FORM is in the eyes of the consumer, the less fresh and exciting it looks. It comes down to marketting. Even though the camo barely hides anything, it keeps us wanting to see the final product.

I'm cool with the camo.
I concur. The more important details of the car are, IMO, evident. I was worried about the big dimensional changes taking place like the aerodynamics being displaced to make it look like something else. The camo does not discourae me at all either.
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