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Old 06-16-2011, 01:07 AM   #1
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LS1-Z28's 2001 SS Build Thread

Alright yes I am starting another thread. That other one was just to crowded with picking up the car haha.

So this is going to be my official build thread. I will reserve the 2nd post for pictures of everything.

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Magnaflow Catback
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So let's see how this thread works out

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Old 06-16-2011, 01:09 AM   #2
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Old 06-16-2011, 02:10 PM   #3
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Added some things to my list

Also if anybody is reading this and would like to buy my Chrome SS ZR1 Style wheels, please let me know. And I will post pictures of them. There is a little curb rash on each wheel but nothing that bad.
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what yah wanting for the wheels and tires?
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what yah wanting for the wheels and tires?
Well the tires are almost gone that it has now haha. Probably getting new tires next week.

The Z06 rims and new tires will be well over $1,000

Are you interested?? It will be a while before I can sell these rims. I need to get a job first haha.

I was thinking maybe $250-300 for the wheels? We can always work something out in the future if you are interested.

And the price would depend if you would want the tires as well. Because if I get new tires then it will probably $6-700 tires and wheels together..

Also unless your willing to trade straight up for those Z06 rims you have plus a little cash
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i paid just over 2300 bucks for my wheels and tires brand new, the wheels and rubber has less than 10K there still brand new, not a single mark

the rubber is 245/45/18's front and 255/45/18's back

I was thinking for a buddy with a TA, hes looking for some rims
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i paid just over 2300 bucks for my wheels and tires brand new, the wheels and rubber has less than 10K there still brand new, not a single mark

the rubber is 245/45/18's front and 255/45/18's back

I was thinking for a buddy with a TA, hes looking for some rims
Yeah by all means ask him. I don't know if my dad will like for me to sell the brand new tires he is buying but the rims I will definitely sell. I would like to bump the price up a little bit...

$500 gets them. The only marks it has is a little bit of curb rash on each wheel. The left front wheel has the worst. It's probably gotta a scrape about 7 inches long...

Let him know and shoot me a PM with your email address and I will send some pictures that way.
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Old 06-16-2011, 04:23 PM   #8
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Haha, I have a buyer for my wheels already too don't even have new ones yet!
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not selling my stock wheels when i get new ones. keeping should i decide to ever sell it, i can have my car back to mostly stock pretty quick. they are worth more stock then moded.
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not selling my stock wheels when i get new ones. keeping should i decide to ever sell it, i can have my car back to mostly stock pretty quick. they are worth more stock then moded.
Very true, however if I can have $600 of the $1600 I need for my wheels back instantly.. Then I'll take it.. cuz I'm a poor high school student
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Very true, however if I can have $600 of the $1600 I need for my wheels back instantly.. Then I'll take it.. cuz I'm a poor high school student
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Updated my list with a couple things

Saw today that the 2 middle LED's in the 3rd brake light were out. Heard this was a common problem with those

Found one on Hawks Third Gen Parts for $50. Not to bad, gonna order that next week.

So if any of you have that go out and don't wanna try to replace the bulbs that's the cheapest I found them!
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:22 PM   #13
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It's been a while lol.

I got all the stuff done besides the stripe and paint the calipers here are pictures of them...
Hurst pistol grip and WS6Store Short Stick The short Stick did make the shifting feel les 'clunky'. Great improvement over stock..





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Old 06-25-2011, 08:56 PM   #14
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I've changed my mind on exhaust............

I think I am going to go the true dual route...............

It sounds so good!!! Here is a video of exactly what I want to do.



Tell me what you think... It's loud, but not obnoxious. The neighbors will really be pissed when my Dad starts his up and then I start mine up if I can do this haha....

Saw a shop today about an hour from me, going to go see them and see if they can do this kinda work for me... I don't want to have to drive 3 hours just to have exhaust work done...
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true dual requires reworking part of the rear suspension. GMMG for the WIN!
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:20 AM   #16
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true dual requires reworking part of the rear suspension. GMMG for the WIN!
I love my SLP, but I'd change it out for GMMG in a heartbeat if the right deal came along...
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Not if you dump it??...
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Not if you dump it??...
...So you're gonna dump it before the axle?

You can kiss the Sweet Thunder goodbye, since there isn't much room down there to even shove anything more than a true dual kit without forcing the car to bottom out on a speed bump.

Oh, and did they ever mention how much weight a true dual system adds to the car should you choose to race it? When all is said and done the thing will weigh as much as a 5th gen and not be any faster (than a 5th gen).
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...So you're gonna dump it before the axle?

You can kiss the Sweet Thunder goodbye, since there isn't much room down there to even shove anything more than a true dual kit without forcing the car to bottom out on a speed bump.

Oh, and did they ever mention how much weight a true dual system adds to the car should you choose to race it? When all is said and done the thing will weigh as much as a 5th gen and not be any faster (than a 5th gen).
http://www.texas-speed.com/p-373-tex...true-dual.aspx

This looks like it's dumped to me?? With Sweet Thunder Mufflers.... I've read that most don't have to worry about the clearance, some say it's good and some say bad... So idk.. And I'm not worried about racing right now(can't even legally drive by myself) I'm not looking to be faster than a 5th gen..

Once I actually get things done to it, to make it worthy for the track then I will race it...

I was thinking it over today.. I might try an ORY first.. And see how I like the sound...

Thanks for the info Zabo!
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No problem, took the liberty of snapping pics to see just how much 'room' there is with just a stocker exhaust in place. Not much..

Stock Y Pipe..


This was an almost impossible shot to get: Muffler inlet, Axle 'over bend', Right side outlet'


Wider shot of the rear axle trying to show everything stuffed in

IMO, Pacesetters LTs, No Cat (Took me until recently to finally come to grips with running no cats), Texas Speed Y pipe, and SLP LM with a custom 'expansion chamber' aka 'LM1 Muffler'. Well, that or a GMMG in place of the SLP LM.

Cheap and it has a good sound. Though if you can pony up for some ORY, by all means do so. Dunno your budget so
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Thanks for the pics. Yeah I was originally going to go with Pacesetter Headers TSP ORY and LM1 once I had the money to change exhausts. I have Magnaflow on it right now, so that's why I'm asking if there is a Y-pipe that fits to the stock manifolds. If I can find one I may just do that for now lol..

And my Dad told me I really need to run cats, said I will get a fuely smeel to it, which I've heard, but is it that bad??

I still gotta find a picture to what I wanna do with my front grille, I got a really go idea!
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Thanks for the pics. Yeah I was originally going to go with Pacesetter Headers TSP ORY and LM1 once I had the money to change exhausts. I have Magnaflow on it right now, so that's why I'm asking if there is a Y-pipe that fits to the stock manifolds. If I can find one I may just do that for now lol..

And my Dad told me I really need to run cats, said I will get a fuely smeel to it, which I've heard, but is it that bad??

I still gotta find a picture to what I wanna do with my front grille, I got a really go idea!
On perf. cars, I hardly notice it.

If you wanted you could run Race/High Flow Cats but in any case it won't pass emission tests without the stock bottles on so it's sorta moot. Also if you look closely on the left side of the Y pipe pic you'll see a flattened portion of the pipe; done so it maintains a set ground clearance and meets with the cat. Long design-to-meet-emissions story with that one.

Most aftermarket Y pipes will correct this and there are some out there that will mate right up to the stock Cats. I'd do so because the gains GM were attempting are negligible, a 3 inch diameter pipe will fit fine.
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On perf. cars, I hardly notice it.

If you wanted you could run Race/High Flow Cats but in any case it won't pass emission tests without the stock bottles on so it's sorta moot. Also if you look closely on the left side of the Y pipe pic you'll see a flattened portion of the pipe; done so it maintains a set ground clearance and meets with the cat. Long design-to-meet-emissions story with that one.

Most aftermarket Y pipes will correct this and there are some out there that will mate right up to the stock Cats. I'd do so because the gains GM were attempting are negligible, a 3 inch diameter pipe will fit fine.
Yeah I noticed that on mine where it is flattened. I'm not paying $3-400 for cats lol. I'm just gonna run none. I'll probably need to get a tune huh? I don't have to worry about emissions down here haha

Alright. But the TSP says it only fits their headers or Pacesetter. Is there a way to hook it up to the stock manifolds? Cause I don't want to buy one then throw it out for another one...
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Yeah I noticed that on mine where it is flattened. I'm not paying $3-400 for cats lol. I'm just gonna run none. I'll probably need to get a tune huh? I don't have to worry about emissions down here haha

Alright. But the TSP says it only fits their headers or Pacesetter. Is there a way to hook it up to the stock manifolds? Cause I don't want to buy one then throw it out for another one...
Depends on which one you were looking at, the ORY or the Catted Y pipe that they make. Neither are going to mate, but I swear I've seen some that do (mostly for sound and not perf. add ons). Though that latter one I'm not sure mates up with Pacesetter LT or Shortie headers (though eyeballing makes it appear to match the dimensions of the OR version meaning LTs with cats).

But if you wanted 'em.. guess you gotta cough up something like 200 and change over the Off road version. Granted to tune for a Catted Y pipe or high flows seems easier and probably cheaper by recalibrating less stuff through the ECU/PCM using captain obvious logic.

However I've got about as much to learn on the subject so as I research I'm tossing this stuff your way to help. Been tossing it around really ever since I decided to pull my stocker after seeing that flattened section and going 'the f'k?' when changing the oil on the bird for the first time.

Then seeing the entire gobbledy gook mess that is a 4th gen exhaust and researching the rationale for it.

Needless to say, could be worse.

Oh, and the TS Dual systems are dumped. Think they dump just forward of the axle under the rear seat pans. Thing is that would put a 3" pipe even more in line with smacking a bump rather than being tucked up in the trans tunnel with the torque arm and driveshaft.

Ya learn quickly that ground clearance is a bitch when going with suspension and exhaust mods. The low, corvette like stance is a blessing and a hindrance. Hell my stock suspension even puts my car at odds with my driveway curb on a daily basis. Nosedives/assdives every time. Though the former is much worse and my suspension is perfectly fine for 11 years old.

Price to be paid, but no use crying over factory spilled milk.
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Depends on which one you were looking at, the ORY or the Catted Y pipe that they make. Neither are going to mate, but I swear I've seen some that do (mostly for sound and not perf. add ons). Though that latter one I'm not sure mates up with Pacesetter LT or Shortie headers (though eyeballing makes it appear to match the dimensions of the OR version meaning LTs with cats).

But if you wanted 'em.. guess you gotta cough up something like 200 and change over the Off road version. Granted to tune for a Catted Y pipe or high flows seems easier and probably cheaper by recalibrating less stuff through the ECU/PCM using captain obvious logic.

However I've got about as much to learn on the subject so as I research I'm tossing this stuff your way to help. Been tossing it around really ever since I decided to pull my stocker after seeing that flattened section and going 'the f'k?' when changing the oil on the bird for the first time.

Then seeing the entire gobbledy gook mess that is a 4th gen exhaust and researching the rationale for it.

Needless to say, could be worse.

Oh, and the TS Dual systems are dumped. Think they dump just forward of the axle under the rear seat pans. Thing is that would put a 3" pipe even more in line with smacking a bump rather than being tucked up in the trans tunnel with the torque arm and driveshaft.

Ya learn quickly that ground clearance is a bitch when going with suspension and exhaust mods. The low, corvette like stance is a blessing and a hindrance. Hell my stock suspension even puts my car at odds with my driveway curb on a daily basis. Nosedives/assdives every time. Though the former is much worse and my suspension is perfectly fine for 11 years old.

Price to be paid, but no use crying over factory spilled milk.

Yeah I think once I get the money I am going to just do the Pacesetter Headers and TSP ORY. Then change exhausts later down the road if I don't like the sound with the Magnaflows... And going out of my driveway, i have to go almost at an angle to not scrape.. And I'm at stock height. I'm going to order BMR Lowering Springs on before the end of the summer so hopefully it doesn't kill me haha. The back is no problem.
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