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Old 03-18-2009, 08:36 AM   #15
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In the world of Engineering, graphs are useless without axis titles. Just something we're told non-stop...
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Old 03-19-2009, 12:46 AM   #16
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In the world of Engineering, graphs are useless without axis titles. Just something we're told non-stop...
Graphs are only useless without axis titles if the title is something less obvious. I titled mine both as Blank vs. Blank - its pretty much the same thing as an axis title. And the titles really don't matter in this case because I pulled the numbers out of my butt to illustrate a point anyway. The exact figures don't matter.

I'm not an engineer, though - I'm a physics major.
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Although I do have some mechanical experience.
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Old 03-19-2009, 12:58 AM   #17
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Wow this thread gives me a headache... How about shift when it feels right, that's generally what most peopledo anyways cuz it's too difficult to look down while racing.
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Old 03-19-2009, 12:59 AM   #18
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i used to practce shifting in my friends Civic ( IT WAs THE ONLY CAR AVAILABLE 2 ME @ THE TIME WITH A MANUAL lol) and i used to do like grandpa used to listen to the engine wind out you'll hear it wanna go 2 the next gear, i realize this is probably a less affective way but i'd like o learn how differnet gears have different sweet spots (i thats true)
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Old 03-19-2009, 04:19 AM   #19
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Every gear should have its own sweet spot, and as far as what XanthosV6 said :bangdesk: I definately agree!


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Old 03-19-2009, 04:30 AM   #20
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Is it wrong that I actually understood that equation?


ugh. As far as I know I'm done with math classes and damn happy about it.
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Old 03-19-2009, 11:02 AM   #21
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:41 PM   #22
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everygear SHOULD have a different rev limit/shif point, but judging by the other LS3's out there dyno's out there (stock), you will probably need to shift very close to redline (6500 rpm or so).
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Old 03-19-2009, 09:28 PM   #23
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I've noticed on the SS gauge cluster that the tach is blue to about 6k, with a blue line crossing at about 6250 RPM, then it is red to 6600, then red hashed past that. I am fully aware that the red hashing at 6600 is redline, but what about the area between 6250 and 6600 that's red, and what about the blue line crossing at 6250??? My guess is that it may be the optimal RPM to shift at for the 6-speed... Any other guesses
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Old 03-19-2009, 10:31 PM   #24
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Wow this thread gives me a headache... How about shift when it feels right, that's generally what most peopledo anyways cuz it's too difficult to look down while racing.
It doesn't give me a headache ~ I like to know what the recommendations are and the logic behind it, but for me it really comes down to the feel. That's why I opted for the stick.
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It doesn't give me a headache ~ I like to know what the recommendations are and the logic behind it, but for me it really comes down to the feel. That's why I opted for the stick.
And while this is a fine way to drive, its not the most efficient. The problem is that the gear your in doesn't give a hoot what the gear ratio will be after you shift - feel won't change based on the next gear, but will stay the same for every gear. So while you can feel when the engine wants to shift, you have to do the math and research to know when the transmission wants to shift.
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Wow this thread gives me a headache... How about shift when it feels right, that's generally what most peopledo anyways cuz it's too difficult to look down while racing.
that's why you practice the shifts while looking down, learning what each shift sounds like. i shift at a different point for just about every gear in my truck, but i rarely look at the tach anymore because i learned what each rpm sounds like

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Is it wrong that I actually understood that equation?


ugh. As far as I know I'm done with math classes and damn happy about it.
i understood it & i ain't had a math class since high school!

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driving is based on math (especially racing)... sorry bud!

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And while this is a fine way to drive, its not the most efficient. The problem is that the gear your in doesn't give a hoot what the gear ratio will be after you shift - feel won't change based on the next gear, but will stay the same for every gear. So while you can feel when the engine wants to shift, you have to do the math and research to know when the transmission wants to shift.
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Using a GTECH, I was able to gain 2mph at the track by changing my shiftpoint ~200 rpm. The differences between shift points between different gears shouldn't be that much, no more than 150 rpm. Obviously, the gearing of each gear will make a difference.
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Old 03-20-2009, 04:38 PM   #28
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driving is based on math (especially racing)... sorry bud!
Don't remind me lol i know math has almost everything to do with cars & driving but i'll admit that was just too much for me lol,
i wish i knew someone with a manual to practice on but w/e
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