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Old 03-13-2009, 11:14 AM   #26
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this is on a G8 with longtubes....but it added over 150hp.....

our camaros are going to be kicking the living isht out of the competition....



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Old 03-13-2009, 12:20 PM   #28
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From videos I've seen, those style blowers make WAY to much of a whine noise. I prefer the "suttle" whistle of a Vortech and the sound of the cars exhaust more. Curious to see one on a Camaro though!
well, vortech is a centrifugal style sc instead of a roots/twin screw/lysholm screw sc. they dont make full boost till you are near redline so you dont hear the sc so much at low rpm.

unless you are running a Ysi.... those beatches scream.


I for one, want my s/c howling. just something more of an intimidation factor for me I guess. not to many people want to F with you when they hear that whine. leading to less street racing...

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yeah... and even if you go that far, just order the ones from the LSA... they're specifically built for supercharged LS3s!
LSA uses hypereutectic pistons #19180413=$63.33msrp.

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That makes no sense........I don't know why they don't run them in the LS series...they don't cost much more..........maybe the noise factor when cold
The LS9 does use forged pistons #19180414, But they run $129 each and require the unique LS7/LS9 rods(megga bucks). The next option is the forged LSX376 piston#19166957 that will probably be cheaper but I don't have a price yet. The only down side with those is that you will retain stock compression ratio.
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The LS9 does use forged pistons #19180414, But they run $129 each and require the unique LS7/LS9 rods(megga bucks). The next option is the forged LSX376 piston#19166957 that will probably be cheaper but I don't have a price yet. The only down side with those is that you will retain stock compression ratio.
true, but if you are changing the pistons to forged, might as well upgrade the connecting rods as well. maybe some H-beams anyone?
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The bottom line is that you can go quite a ways with an intercooler and proper tuning on a blown car with stock internals. You can avoid KR with tuning and then you won't have problems.
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That makes no sense........I don't know why they don't run them in the LS series...they don't cost much more..........maybe the noise factor when cold
because of greater expansion, forged also has higher emissions when cold.
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You would need forged rods before you went to pistons. So why not upgrade them both at the same time?
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I was thinking a MP2300, or Whipple/KB of similar size. Statements/opinions I've read, so far though, regarding stuffing the MP2300 on a stock L76 (it was on a G8 forum) wasn't too good an idea because it's claimed it was too much blower without forged parts. I don't know if it was just skepticism or what, but it just seemed to me to be a little too pessomistic; stock 4.6s live under 2.6L KBs or Whipples all the time, so I don't see why a stock LS' could do the same with conservative boost and good tuning. I see the LSA and LS9 running 9+ pounds of boost, and they all have mostly forged parts (in the LSA) but those are about as bullet-proof as they come form the factory. I think running 6 psi. would be plenty safe, considering Haddad Motorsports' G8 GT is running a little more (I believe) and putting down 460 RWHP with only a catback.

I don't see why this company is going to use old technology when they have these new rotors to work with... Oh well. To each his own Camaro will be kicking tail though, regardless of blower - period.







I want an OEM SC!!! Those Cobras are something to be messed with. It's a good thing Camaro was cancelled in '02 so they didn't have to deal with those cars, OMG. It weighed more but made a good amount more power. Shoot - you guys could swap a pulley, add CAI, exhaust, and tune and get crazy power!!! I'm so jealous.



Or all the time for those with piston slap...







I agree, but LOVE it!!! I'm a little disappointed the ZR1 and CTS-V don't make a little more noise, but I imagine much more could get irritating after a while of driving - especially in a DD. It's funny some Cobras I've heard with KBs or Whipples whined so much that it overpowered the exhaust!!! That was with full exhaust including LTs. Those cars were stupid fast!!!
the tvs is alot quiter then the original maggies, also u dont hear whine until u start achieving boost. and it really screams at higher rpm. so for daily driving u shouldnt be getting in to high boost so the whine should be minimal or non resistant. but then it all depends on ones setup, i'm sure with a nice intake setup and a smaller pulley it might whine at idle, or the s/c ported. so who knows. as far as the ctsv and zr1 gm specifically picked the tvs units cuz its quiet, plus they added tons of sound deadening stuff in the engine bay to keep it quiet. i wish u could hear the s/c whine, i'm sure w/ some mods it can be heard .
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this is on a G8 with longtubes....but it added over 150hp.....

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i'm interested to see what was going on with that regal (or grand nat'l) in the background!!
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i'm interested to see what was going on with that regal (or grand nat'l) in the background!!
a bigger blower....lol


positive displacement FI LT1 anyone?

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a bigger blower....lol


positive displacement FI LT1 anyone?

thats something u dont see every day. read about it on ls1tech. I'm a big fan of Positive displacement blowers. twin screws, and really liking the results of eatons new TVS units. their putting some stout numbers. i hope whipple makes something for the new camaro. theyve been lacking in the gm performance car market.
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thats something u dont see every day. read about it on ls1tech. I'm a big fan of Positive displacement blowers. twin screws, and really liking the results of eatons new TVS units. their putting some stout numbers. i hope whipple makes something for the new camaro. theyve been lacking in the gm performance car market.
Magnuson already has s/c for LS series motors. the one pictured above is not mine, mine is a little more "custom" than that. lol
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Magnuson already has s/c for LS series motors. the one pictured above is not mine, mine is a little more "custom" than that. lol
i know that magnuson has s/c for ls series engines. i'm hoping whipple comes out with some that are 50 state legal. and not just hot rod kits that require massive amounts of custom work.
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The Blk Tvs style will hit the dyno next week.Both are ls2 engines with headers.
I have heard the L76 working with TT and AFM, how does is perform in the same situation with a supercharger?
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i know that magnuson has s/c for ls series engines. i'm hoping whipple comes out with some that are 50 state legal. and not just hot rod kits that require massive amounts of custom work.
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the same. only real difference is the wastegate and BOV locations.
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true, but if you are changing the pistons to forged, might as well upgrade the connecting rods as well. maybe some H-beams anyone?
Callies Compstar makes some nice H Beam LSX rods. I think they run about $599/set.

For overkill, there are always the Oliver Billets.
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Were have you seen this?Until we do more development we will just be turning it off.
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The Maggie MP 122 is a JOKE. Anything less than a TVS blower, preferably the TVS 2300, is a waste on a LSx engine.

I would be happy to own a TVS 2300 if East Coast Supercharging (ECS) doesn't develop a Novi system for the Camaro/G8.
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