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Old 07-26-2011, 09:07 AM   #1
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Trading in '11 CGM 2SS/RS for '12 45th AE 2SS

Just talked to a salesman at my local GM Dealer and they have 1 allocation for a 2012 Camaro opening up next week! Everyone thinks I'm crazy for planning on trading in a car that I've only had for six months/4k miles, but with the 45th Anniversary Edition coming out (I'm obsessed with the Carbon Flash Metallic paint...) and the addition of a few upgrades (rear-view camera, upgraded suspension...) I feel that if I can get it for around what my payments are now, then why not? GM has also finally started using Carbon Synchros for the low gears on the TR6060, so I'll never have to worry about 2nd gear grinding again! As far as all my mods, I'll just have to do the work to switch back to the stock equipment (glad I kept all that junk!) because they actually prefer a trade-in to have as few aftermarket parts as possible. Of course that just means I won't have to start from scratch when I mod the 2012.

I was also surprised at how our cars hold their value after the dreaded new car depreciation. My MSRP was mid-$38k (paid mid-$36k after GM Military Discount and GM Owner Loyalty) and the KBB Trade-In Value is still over $35k! I still have to go over the prices of everything with the salesman, but he was confident that my payments should stay around the same...

So, what would you do?


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Old 07-26-2011, 09:12 AM   #2
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If you can affoard it and that's what you want go for it! Better to make the trade now while your Camaro is still worth near what you payed for it than later on!
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:27 AM   #3
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Love the car, but why oh why did they put that butt ugly steering wheel in it!!
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:46 AM   #4
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trade that bad boy in if your budget will allow you to do so.
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:11 AM   #5
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Get a firm trade in price for your car from the dealer. KBB is way off on values and I'm sure you dont want any suprises.
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:17 AM   #6
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Can you provide the link where GM is switching to carbon syncros?
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:19 AM   #7
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Yeah KBB is on its way out don't listen to it
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:21 AM   #8
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I dont think you're crazy. Do what makes you happy.
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:22 AM   #9
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Love the car, but why oh why did they put that butt ugly steering wheel in it!!
Anyone not wanting the 2012 steering wheel, I will gladly trade you my 2011 wheel!
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:28 AM   #10
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Well you know there is always something better coming out next year. I went through all this with my Mustangs. Started with an 05 GT, next was an 08 Bullitt, and then a 2010 Roush. I would not want to add up the money I lost doing all of that. Nice looking car though, love the wheels and I'd like to see the new color in person.
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:31 AM   #11
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I say keep yours. You are already 6 months in on payments.

That's just my .02.
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:32 AM   #12
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Well you know there is always something better coming out next year. I went through all this with my Mustangs. Started with an 05 GT, next was an 08 Bullitt, and then a 2010 Roush. I would not want to add up the money I lost doing all of that. Nice looking car though, love the wheels and I'd like to see the new color in person.
Yea, in 5 years it will be the 50th anniversary edition.
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:34 AM   #13
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Im trading my 2010 2ss/rs with 1k miles on it and getting about 29500 plus 7 % tax credit. I ordered 2012 2ss 45th vert. Should be here by late august.
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:28 AM   #14
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Hey if you can do it why not. Who cares what anyone else thinks, you make the payment no one else. If you work for what you have then why not treat yourself to what you want. Congrats on the pending upgrade !
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:33 AM   #15
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Can you provide the link where GM is switching to carbon syncros?
The info comes from a GM Tranny Tech named Rick that was helping us out on a 2nd Gear Grind thread.

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96243

Take a look at posts 195, 264, 337, 353. All new transmissions will have the upgraded parts.
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:36 AM   #16
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Get a firm trade in price for your car from the dealer. KBB is way off on values and I'm sure you dont want any suprises.
I'm taking it up there later this week to get a trade-in quote from them. I only mention the KBB value because the salesman said that's what they use. Crazy, I know...
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:44 AM   #17
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Im trading my 2010 2ss/rs with 1k miles on it and getting about 29500 plus 7 % tax credit. I ordered 2012 2ss 45th vert. Should be here by late august.
That's awesome! And also one reason why I'm going for the trade-in now instead of waiting to see what comes out in 2013. Even if I never drove it (and I do since it's my DD), it would depreciate several thousands of dollars. With the discounts I received, my 2011 is at the perfect place to trade in without losing much. Of course, my payments will extend for 6 months or so, but they should stay pretty close to the same. So, in theory, there should be zero additional financial burden.

Let's hope Murphy's Law won't apply here.....
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:50 AM   #18
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Love the car, but why oh why did they put that butt ugly steering wheel in it!!
I was showing my wife images of the 2012 45th AE yesterday and she said "Damn, I really like that... But what's up with that ugly-ass steering wheel?!"
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I'm taking it up there later this week to get a trade-in quote from them. I only mention the KBB value because the salesman said that's what they use. Crazy, I know...
Are you sure KBB is Kelly Blue Book? Could be KBB = Kelly Black Book which dealers use when they are taking in a trade.
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:00 PM   #20
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Most of the stuff on the 45th I like but some I don't. Either steering wheel is fine by me. I think the regular rims are better, and the special white 45th interior doesn't look as nice as the gray does, IMO.

But the stripes are cool and the carbon flash metallic is awesome. You can't order it with the ground effects package though, hopefully they change that.

If it's what you want, I say go for it. You spend that much $$ on a car it should be exactly what you want.
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I guess it all depends on what you think your payments being about the same means. In my experience when talking to salesmen, they think that if I have a loan for 48 months with a $409 payment then a 60 month loan with payments of 499 is "about the same." Hey they both start with 4 right? Both around $400, yeah right, not to mention the extra year.

I hope this is not the case and you truely can get it for about the same price but seem difficult to believe you could get a new 2SS/RS w/ sunroof and whatever else you have for a similar payment unless you throw in more cash down.
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If it's what you want and they really give you that much for trade-in on your 2011 - get it while you can. Good Luck...
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:06 PM   #23
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I saw an ad yesterday for the local chevy dealer, he was advertizing New 2011 LS Camaros for 23995, I looked down and he had a 2010 USED LS listed for 21995. so I guess they are holding their value pretty well...
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:07 PM   #24
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Love the car, but why oh why did they put that butt ugly steering wheel in it!!


Jeez, it's just a steering wheel. Everyone get over it already. It's not as if they gave it the Cruze engine ...

Especially if you get an SS, you won't notice the steering wheel after you press the gas pedal.
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Are you sure KBB is Kelly Blue Book? Could be KBB = Kelly Black Book which dealers use when they are taking in a trade.

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