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Old 07-26-2011, 11:33 AM   #15
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Can you provide the link where GM is switching to carbon syncros?
The info comes from a GM Tranny Tech named Rick that was helping us out on a 2nd Gear Grind thread.

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96243

Take a look at posts 195, 264, 337, 353. All new transmissions will have the upgraded parts.
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:36 AM   #16
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Get a firm trade in price for your car from the dealer. KBB is way off on values and I'm sure you dont want any suprises.
I'm taking it up there later this week to get a trade-in quote from them. I only mention the KBB value because the salesman said that's what they use. Crazy, I know...
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:44 AM   #17
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Im trading my 2010 2ss/rs with 1k miles on it and getting about 29500 plus 7 % tax credit. I ordered 2012 2ss 45th vert. Should be here by late august.
That's awesome! And also one reason why I'm going for the trade-in now instead of waiting to see what comes out in 2013. Even if I never drove it (and I do since it's my DD), it would depreciate several thousands of dollars. With the discounts I received, my 2011 is at the perfect place to trade in without losing much. Of course, my payments will extend for 6 months or so, but they should stay pretty close to the same. So, in theory, there should be zero additional financial burden.

Let's hope Murphy's Law won't apply here.....
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:50 AM   #18
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Love the car, but why oh why did they put that butt ugly steering wheel in it!!
I was showing my wife images of the 2012 45th AE yesterday and she said "Damn, I really like that... But what's up with that ugly-ass steering wheel?!"
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:50 AM   #19
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I'm taking it up there later this week to get a trade-in quote from them. I only mention the KBB value because the salesman said that's what they use. Crazy, I know...
Are you sure KBB is Kelly Blue Book? Could be KBB = Kelly Black Book which dealers use when they are taking in a trade.
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:00 PM   #20
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Most of the stuff on the 45th I like but some I don't. Either steering wheel is fine by me. I think the regular rims are better, and the special white 45th interior doesn't look as nice as the gray does, IMO.

But the stripes are cool and the carbon flash metallic is awesome. You can't order it with the ground effects package though, hopefully they change that.

If it's what you want, I say go for it. You spend that much $$ on a car it should be exactly what you want.
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:00 PM   #21
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I guess it all depends on what you think your payments being about the same means. In my experience when talking to salesmen, they think that if I have a loan for 48 months with a $409 payment then a 60 month loan with payments of 499 is "about the same." Hey they both start with 4 right? Both around $400, yeah right, not to mention the extra year.

I hope this is not the case and you truely can get it for about the same price but seem difficult to believe you could get a new 2SS/RS w/ sunroof and whatever else you have for a similar payment unless you throw in more cash down.
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:03 PM   #22
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If it's what you want and they really give you that much for trade-in on your 2011 - get it while you can. Good Luck...
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:06 PM   #23
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I saw an ad yesterday for the local chevy dealer, he was advertizing New 2011 LS Camaros for 23995, I looked down and he had a 2010 USED LS listed for 21995. so I guess they are holding their value pretty well...
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:07 PM   #24
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Love the car, but why oh why did they put that butt ugly steering wheel in it!!


Jeez, it's just a steering wheel. Everyone get over it already. It's not as if they gave it the Cruze engine ...

Especially if you get an SS, you won't notice the steering wheel after you press the gas pedal.
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Are you sure KBB is Kelly Blue Book? Could be KBB = Kelly Black Book which dealers use when they are taking in a trade.

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Old 07-26-2011, 12:31 PM   #26
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Are you sure KBB is Kelly Blue Book? Could be KBB = Kelly Black Book which dealers use when they are taking in a trade.
It's definitely Kelly Blue Book. I've also known some to use Black Book and NADA. It's just their preference, I guess. My mom has owned a Used Car Dealership for several years and she's always used NADA.

Just checked online on Black Book and they don't have any info on vehicles newer than 2010 and less than 5k miles.
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:39 PM   #27
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It's definitely Kelly Blue Book. I've also known some to use Black Book and NADA. It's just their preference, I guess. My mom has owned a Used Car Dealership for several years and she's always used NADA.

Just checked online on Black Book and they don't have any info on vehicles newer than 2010 and less than 5k miles.
My contact said he uses auction values to figure out what to give on trade in which is probably a little lower than KBB.

I say go for it... same thing I did when the Pace Car came out...
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:50 PM   #28
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i was debateing tradeing in mine for the 45th but i own mine free and clear so i dont know i do love it though also by the time i get it it will be winter here so i can enjoy it all summer why i pulled the trigger eh if you can get it go for it dont hold back
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