07-26-2011, 11:38 PM | #85 |
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I'm totally playin those lotto numbers!!
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07-27-2011, 12:26 AM | #86 |
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This is why auto journalist make up these list, they really have nothing to report right now and these things always gets them good attention.
Interesting that we are already back to the V-6 turbocharged rumor for the Corvette, and now people are spreading that to the Camaro and even funnier people are going with the unfounded rumor of a small turbo V-8 engine. |
07-27-2011, 12:57 AM | #87 |
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i am going with a white car with black rims next !
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07-27-2011, 01:46 AM | #88 |
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The Sonic we pretty much know everything about it so there is no actual prediction on the Sonic at all......
The current Malibu with the 2.4L DOHC VVT I-4 engine and 6 speed automatic returns 33MPG on the highway (has been tested as high as 39MPG). So with the 2.5L directly injected unit and the 6 speed auto I don't expect fuel economy to drop 3MPG down to 30. I remember that it was projected to stay the same at 33MPG however I wouldn't be shocked if it picked up a MPG or two. On the Corvette the V-6 turbo rumor has been going around for a long time now, in the 1980s there was actual work done on such an engine. Though currently these are just unfounded rumors which won't seem to die (much like the mid engine rumor). I am sure that whenever a new Corvette is in the planning stages they consider a great many things. From rear engine to a rotary engine.... Its possible that a I-4 engine may find its way under the Alpha Camaro (especially for European sales). Would a 3,500 pound 280BHP 2.0L Turbo 4 be a bad thing? Though I expect the V-6 may still be in it or even a turbo 6 as a option and the V-8 isn't going anywhere. |
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I think there's close to zero chance they will save enough weight with the platform change or in any way create a six cylinder camaro, twin turbo or not, to even come close to challenging the ZL1. Get 'em while they're hot, guys. .
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07-27-2011, 09:22 AM | #90 |
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man, I get a kick out of this stuff. You have people that are speculating based on automotive journalism, and people in the industry de-bunking it.
And still people want to fly with the journalism crowd. Fun!! As far as a TT Corvette, Lutz keeps throwing that out there in industry publication interviews. Of course, he's talking 10 - 15 years away. But hey, people run with it anyway. |
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Of course its all speculation, but thats the fun part. I don't know crap about what is going to happen, but I'm going to comment anyway!
Although I do agree that sitting on the current design/engine/chassis for another 10+ years is just too long, we all know that isn't going to happen. There will be various changes throughout, like how Ford changed up the styling on their 2010 Mustangs. We can see this happening already, with the 2012 interior, and revised suspension on the 2012 SS Camaro's, but eventually (in my opinion, around the 2013 to 2015 model years) there will need to be some refreshing done to the styling to hold interest...again I refer to the 2010 Mustang. In my head, I see something like the small picture I've attached to this post. It is not a huge change (revised fascia, and air inlets on the sides), but enough for someone to know it is new! Actually, I'm sure that is a pre-production concept photo, but Ford did the same eventually including some of the 05 mustang concept designs in its GT500 that were skipped initially upon the regular 05's release. The one thing that may move it all forward is what Ford does with its Mustang for 2014/2015 when they move to a brand new generation. There are "reports" that it could be as light or lighter than the current car. If it is, and its attractive looking, Camaro will need to move to keep up. Everyone is hoping for a nice weight reduction when the Alpha platform finally comes out. But will that actually happen? Now I hear that since that platform may be used for larger cars/engines than originally thought, it too has gained weight and may not be much if any lighter than the current platform....but who really knows besides the true insiders. Anyways, with all that said, I think it is safe to say GM is aware of all this and if they are truely "in it to win" as they say, they won't be sitting still anytime soon.
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07-27-2011, 10:50 AM | #93 |
Speculation is fun for its entertainment value. It's like sci-fi which can be totally incomprehensible but at the same time based on a bit of reality.
I see the future Camaro, not 6th Gen, as an electric hybrid with self-driving capabilities. Maybe it will be time to retire the model at that point. |
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Well if you cannot plan an updated website or build site with the 2012 model in production.......... How can you plan for a Gen6 or a Z28 ???????
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I think in general some of the changes will be good for the regular models in the line-up, but IMO featuring a v6 on the corvette might hurt its image.
You can make a powerful small displacement engine; In fact there are quite a few examples out there to support chevy's case of going smaller. The problem with including non-v8 engines on corvette and camaro ss is that it will change their image in terms of the "heritage" identity of both cars. My personal opinion is that I would not waste money on a v6 Corvette or a v6 Camaro SS (when a powerful 6 or 4 cyl. could be had in other cars), even if they could be faster and more powerful than their v8 predecessors. The sound and feel of a v8 car is distinctive, and I have yet to see any exhaust system added to a small engine that could re-create the sound, or a smaller, non 8 cyl. engine that could act and feel like a v8....any v8.
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Oh, I totally agree with you on this. That's why we won't hear anything about the Z28 until the ZL1 is in full swing. I'm going to bet my second Klondike bar that ZL1 sales (be surprise we hear a projection) won't meet sales expectations.
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not sure I would like a front wheel drive.
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Is anybody against the idea of having the LS be a turbo I-4?
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