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Old 07-27-2011, 12:59 PM   #1
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Savini Wheels -Beware!

Yes Sports fan this issue has rose it's ugly head again. Mods if this is in the wrong section please move it to the right place. I figured since it was wheels I would put it in the wheels section.


I am going to tell you about the ordeal I am going through with my wonderful Savini Sv 21 wheels.

I will say this they LOOK great and I get ALOT of compliments on these wheels. This would be fine if I didn't want to drive my car.

When Randy ( PQ) had his wheels vibration issues, I along with alot of members were on his side because their ( Savini ) claims were absolutely crazy. SO after me voicing my opinion along with several member Savini APPEARED to have took care of Randy.

Savini is the maker of a High End Custom 3 piece forged wheel. They are supposed to be a very quality product.

Be a vocal person that can not stand people who get screwed I voiced my opinion many times about what I though of their practices and service. So close after Savini SUPPOSEDLY took care of Randy, I was contacted by Savini ( Nick) about buying a set of Savini Wheels of course at a reduced price.

Nick ( Savini) stated that the issues of quality had been addressed, steps taken to resolve those issues. He assured me that if I would allow Savini to put a set of wheels on my car that I would be COMPLETELY satisfied. So after much thought, I agreed.

The reason I agreed is I have common sense. I understand that not everything can be 100% correct 100% of the time, and that while I understand that things happen it is more important how issues are resolved in the end.

So Nick from Savini set the wheels in motion, HE chose a vendor for me to deal with since I was getting the " Sweetheart " deal. Fine, it really does not matter to me because everything will be ok, Right?

Some of the issues on Randy's wheels were that alot of blame was placed on the people who mounted and balanced the tires. " They damaged the wheels" and basically looked at Randy as it was his fault.

So as to alleviate this issue, I told him that when the wheels came to me, I wanted them mounted, balanced, tpms sensors in so all I would have to do is bolt them up. How hard could that be? Simplify the whole deal cut out any blame, whew glad that is taken care of.

So I plop down my money, order the wheels from BFXAuto in California, all the time everyone understands that WHEEL VIBRATION is my #1 PRIORITY.

I also sent e-mails and they agreed that if any issues arose that I would not be the one paying shipping back and forth to California, as was in Randy's, and a few others case. I also let them know that I would not play this back and forth game with the wheels and that IF any issues arose that they would have ONE chance to rectify the situation and if that did not fix the issues then I wanted a refund. So everyone assured me that there would not be any problems.

So I wait for the wheels and they arrive. The wheels are very dirty when I get them. OK got dirty in transit, I can clean them. So I take them home, spend a good bit of time cleaning these wheels up. I notice that no lugnuts are on th epallet. Hmmmm...call BFX and he said it was an oversight. OK , I can believe that, someone simply left a box off the pallet. BFX said he would "OVERNIGHT" them to me. Ok what's a day. 5 days later they arrive. Not a real good overnight service, but I'm good they are here so I get everything ready, ,jack up my car, take the stock wheel off and guess what?
They sent the WRONG size lugnut, now I am irritated. Call BFX, no answer it is Friday so I decide to just go buy some locally. Mind you lugnuts were in the original deal.

So finally get the wheels on the car and guess what????? You guess correct, they vibrate. Now I am more than irritated. I finally get ahold of BFX and he has the wheels picked back up and sent to Savini. This last about 3 1/2 weeks and the great response from Savini is.........."They are in tolerance and everything is good to go". So the wheels are sent back to me.

Of course I bolt them back up and you know what........They Vibrate. I contact BFXAuto and let him know they vibrate and that I just want my money back, says he really doesn't have the money to refund mine.?????WTF is this. He tries to get me to see if someone locally can balance the wheels on the car.

Well knowing the issues that Randy had, the blame game that went around about someone damaging the wheels I knew I had to find a high end shop , preferably that sold Savini Wheels to look at these things.

So I actually found a shop near Atlanta ( a 2/12 hour drive from me) that was recommended by Vengeance Racing, a place called Butler Tire. They sell A LOT of high end wheels to incluse Savini and trust me they are far more expensive cars than mine there.

I make an appointment and make the trek over to Butler. They spend 2 1/2 hours trying to get these things balanced. They SHOW me that the wheels are NOT hubcentric and that is part of the problem. They index the tires
on the wheels and rebalance them, then they high speed balance them on the car....225.00 later they are done. Guess what...still vibrate. Butler took alot of the vibration out but they still vibrate, Kinda like saying you are a LITTLE PREGNANT, either you are or are not. Either these wheels vibrate or they do not.

So I contact BFXAUTO, Nick at Savini and TU from Savini about these wheels. I basically tell them I just want a refund and we well call it even. No One from Savini contacted me back, NOONE.

Well of course they do not want to do that. I even had the Butler Rep I dealt with contact Savini and he let them know about these wheels. NO Blaming John on this one.

NOW BFXAUTO wants me to send the wheels back , AGAIN, to Savini so they can be checked. SUPPOSEDLY they are going to re-drill the centers???????? because they are not hubcentric and place some type of centering ring in the center and hopefully this will FIX the issue.

Of course like PQ my car will sit on jack stands during this process and it really irritates me that the first time the wheels went back that they didn't make sure they were right. Not to mention after the whole PQ ordeal that they did not ENSURE they were right the FIRST time.

They are supposed to be picked up this Friday and returned to me on 8/9/11.

My hope is that they get this issue rectified, but like many others on this forum Savini has been less than forthcoming about their service and the way they treat the vendors. I am sure other will chime in about their experiences.

I am giving BFXAuto a chance to have this issue fixed once and for all one last time. This thread is not intended to bash any specific vendor or manufactuor but to let you know what happened to me and the problems that I have been through all because I wanted a nice set of wheels.

As upset as I am about this issue I do not want this thread closed as I think it is GREAT Information for this interested in purchasing wheels.
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Old 07-27-2011, 01:19 PM   #2
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Great Post

Sorry for your pain.

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Old 07-27-2011, 01:34 PM   #3
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The issues seem to be ongoing with Savini with Camaro owners.

However, I would like to add my .02 cents to the topic, since I've had 6 different sets of 22's wheels on my Camaro. And the culprit of my front end vibration always seem to be the rotors.

I replaced a complete set of rotors and the problem went away......

I'm not mechanically inclined, but trust the GM dealer working on my car and he eluded with the extra weight of the 22's, and the added friction need for the brakes to compensate for the weight, makes the rotors more acceptable to warping !
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Old 07-27-2011, 01:38 PM   #4
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My issue is well documented on this site and with anyone who knows me and driven the car and seen the paint falling off and everyone who sees me at shows and such.

I'm still the butt end of the jokes with my family and freinds. When asked what I paid for the wheels I'd tell them and then defend myself by saying "You get what you pay for",,,,,, THAT only made it worse. They quickly all point out my saga.

Now any time there is a part of any particular conversation of 'worth' it's always "I wouldn't pay that much for that, try Randy, he'll buy it" and the jokes just keep coming.

I'll give it to Savini. They tried to help me. Reluctantly and with pressure, they did try. But they just flat out make a shitty product. I've tried to think as pssitive as I can. Even try and convince myself that it's normal. But it isn't. Just ask the members here who have driven my car.

Maybe they just see the Camaro as a bunch of mulletheads who don't know any better so they cut corners? Who knows. But a set of cheapo 22inch wheels from Rent&Roll perfomed better on my car than my Savinis.

I've been quiet on the boards since they remade two of the wheels and Rent and Roll said they looked good and they are much better as a whole but the first two seem to be the unnoticed culprits now. I told Savini they were good enough and I stand by that as far as vibration. Acceptable. But it's up to you if you want to pay this kind of money for 'Acceptable'.

The paint and finish is another story. EVERYONE I know who has bought Savini has had to refinish their wheels or deal with shitty finish.

I got nothing to gain by my comments here. I just don't want anyone to have the buyers remorse that I do. If you just HAVE to spend a ton on custom wheels DO NOT buy Savini wheels.

Sometimes you just get screwed in life. And sometimes you realize that you bought a shitty product and there is a point where you realize that they are incapable of helping you. I did'nt even address the shitty paint with them because I was just DONE with it. (I had them fix a paint problem the first time they went back becaue they were gonna have them anyway)

I've bought a LOT of things from vendors on this site and have had problems with some. I'm a VERY patient person. But Savini is a HORRIBLE product for the money. For whatever reason, they really do mail it in in quality and performance.
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The issues seem to be ongoing with Savini with Camaro owners.

However, I would like to add my .02 cents to the topic, since I've had 6 different sets of 22's wheels on my Camaro. And the culprit of my front end vibration always seem to be the rotors.

I replaced a complete set of rotors and the problem went away......

I'm not mechanically inclined, but trust the GM dealer working on my car and he eluded with the extra weight of the 22's, and the added friction need for the brakes to compensate for the weight, makes the rotors more acceptable to warping !
I'd agree if I hadn't had mine checked AND mine vibrated horribly just leaving the shop the day I had them put on.
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:21 PM   #6
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The issues seem to be ongoing with Savini with Camaro owners.

However, I would like to add my .02 cents to the topic, since I've had 6 different sets of 22's wheels on my Camaro. And the culprit of my front end vibration always seem to be the rotors.

I replaced a complete set of rotors and the problem went away......

I'm not mechanically inclined, but trust the GM dealer working on my car and he eluded with the extra weight of the 22's, and the added friction need for the brakes to compensate for the weight, makes the rotors more acceptable to warping !
I actually thought of this but as PQ stated, they vibrated in the first 100 yds after putting them on the car and is why they were sent back the first time. They have NEVER been right, from day one.
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:27 PM   #7
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My issue is well documented on this site and with anyone who knows me and driven the car and seen the paint falling off and everyone who sees me at shows and such.

I'm still the butt end of the jokes with my family and freinds. When asked what I paid for the wheels I'd tell them and then defend myself by saying "You get what you pay for",,,,,, THAT only made it worse. They quickly all point out my saga.

Now any time there is a part of any particular conversation of 'worth' it's always "I wouldn't pay that much for that, try Randy, he'll buy it" and the jokes just keep coming.

I'll give it to Savini. They tried to help me. Reluctantly and with pressure, they did try. But they just flat out make a shitty product. I've tried to think as pssitive as I can. Even try and convince myself that it's normal. But it isn't. Just ask the members here who have driven my car.

Maybe they just see the Camaro as a bunch of mulletheads who don't know any better so they cut corners? Who knows. But a set of cheapo 22inch wheels from Rent&Roll perfomed better on my car than my Savinis.

I've been quiet on the boards since they remade two of the wheels and Rent and Roll said they looked good and they are much better as a whole but the first two seem to be the unnoticed culprits now. I told Savini they were good enough and I stand by that as far as vibration. Acceptable. But it's up to you if you want to pay this kind of money for 'Acceptable'.

The paint and finish is another story. EVERYONE I know who has bought Savini has had to refinish their wheels or deal with shitty finish.

I got nothing to gain by my comments here. I just don't want anyone to have the buyers remorse that I do. If you just HAVE to spend a ton on custom wheels DO NOT buy Savini wheels.

Sometimes you just get screwed in life. And sometimes you realize that you bought a shitty product and there is a point where you realize that they are incapable of helping you. I did'nt even address the shitty paint with them because I was just DONE with it. (I had them fix a paint problem the first time they went back becaue they were gonna have them anyway)

I've bought a LOT of things from vendors on this site and have had problems with some. I'm a VERY patient person. But Savini is a HORRIBLE product for the money. For whatever reason, they really do mail it in in quality and performance.
You are so correct sometime you just get the shaft, MAYBE this time the issue will be fixed but their track record has not been the best on wheel issues. If they get it right the first time then you are good to go but if there is an issue it always is a problem.

Maybe I will just be stuck with a bad set of wheels and have to learn to live with the fact of getting hosed, BUT IF I DO have to I will ensure everyone knows the issues I have been through so that the same mistake hopefully won't befall someone else.

Who knows maybe they got their stuff straight and this will be fixed appropriately, just dont know at this point in time.

I would suggest that I will NEVER buy another set of wheels over the net, it will be a face to face transaction.Ant they definitely will not get paid until I drive my car first.
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It just goes to show you that just because something is expensive it isn't always quality.
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that is what this forum is all about.we need to voice our opinions on what products are good and also what products are not.i thank both of you for the writeup.
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OMG, I know what kind of money these wheels cost you, PQ and Darth Emma just to name a few and it's enough to Supercharge my Camaro.

Good thread.. I followed PQ's "saga" last year and decided to order my expensive 3-pc forged wheels from Vossen. I remember waiting at the dealership 2 weeks ago and them telling me they were taking it for a test drive to check for vibration - I was scared shitless. Lo and behold - no vibration (caliper barely clears the wheel - but hey they don't rub).. Good thing cause Vossen is now out of business.

I so badly wanted Savini's but these awesome members saved me from making what would have been a poor choice.

I hate seeing shit like this.. Hope everything works out for you!! Lori
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Wait a minute.... What the f*** is "Rent and Roll"??
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Wait a minute.... What the f*** is "Rent and Roll"??
http://www.rnrwheels.com/page/rentnroll-1
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Wait a minute.... What the f*** is "Rent and Roll"??
lol, yup. You can rent, or rent to own wheels. LMAO

Sad thing is they are the best wheel shop here in lower Alabama.

And even they were NOT impressed ONE BIT with Savini.

Call the one in Mobile Alabama and ask Darren (manager) what he thought of the quality of Savini.
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Good thread.. I followed PQ's "saga" last year and decided to order my expensive 3-pc forged wheels from Vossen. I remember waiting at the dealership 2 weeks ago and them telling me they were taking it for a test drive to check for vibration - I was scared shitless. Lo and behold - no vibration (caliper barely clears the wheel - but hey they don't rub).. Good thing cause Vossen is now out of business.
1st post pics of your new wheels

Secondly, Vossen is still in business
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Savini was at a recent event here in So. Cal. and one of our group was considering wheels from them. I don't have any experience with Savini, but just reading the people who have, I warned him to check out the threads for complaints and tread carefully, so they probably lost a sale that day. It sucks to pay a lot and not get quality product in return.
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Savini was at a recent event here in So. Cal. and one of our group was considering wheels from them. I don't have any experience with Savini, but just reading the people who have, I warned him to check out the threads for complaints and tread carefully, so they probably lost a sale that day. It sucks to pay a lot and not get quality product in return.
I know a lot of people out there. Mainly from this forum. Lot of people who are kinda tight with the Savini guys. So I don't give this negative info lightly. It's the only product I've spoken this way about. (as far as the product it's self) And yet I feel compelled to.

If you consider the odds of a product being problematic, you consider a middle of the road product to have some problems but not a lot. You consider a product that is supposed to be THE BEST. That you pay THE MOST for, you figure that problems would be few and far between. And yet everyone I personaly know who bought Savini wheels have had issues. Some less vocal than others. And I know of no less than 4 people OTHER than myself. That's 100% have had issues and MULTIPLE issues.

The product is a sham. Plain and simple. My paint was put on top of shiny chrome.
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OMG, I know what kind of money these wheels cost you, PQ and Darth Emma just to name a few and it's enough to Supercharge my Camaro.
No kidding....and then some. Between the three, you could have a Camaro LS
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My Forgeline wheels arrive tomorrow. My 22" Savinis are coming off my car. I'm eating an $8k loss.
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Sheesh, again?

I followed the whole PQ episode. The thing that struck me was that Savini made him eat hundreds of dollars (at least) in shipping costs for something that was their problem.

That alone said a lot about the kind of company they are.

If I were Dr Jkel, I would be demanding my money back immediately and not fooling around with them. The longer you let them drag this out, the more it will cost you in the end.

Hopefully you have written proof that they agreed to a refund after the first fix attempt. If so, hold them to it immediately.
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I'm thinking a few hundred for a plane ticket to take out a couple grand on someones ass...

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I'm glad that I never got sucked into these way over priced wheels. I'll take my Foose nitrous rims any day over this crap. I paid $2,700 with tires and they work great and still look great.
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wow... really sorry to hear that.

I want to get some wheels, but I'm getting cold feet. May just get mine power-coated.
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That's my second choice... Glad to hear those are working for ya.
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great write up. i hope people think about what you are saying.i've been to there shop in person, that was all i had to see.
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great write up. i hope people think about what you are saying.i've been to there shop in person, that was all i had to see.
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