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Old 09-14-2011, 01:56 PM   #1
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Question DISABLING THE NANNIES?

Does anyone know if there's a way to make the TC and StabiliTrak systems default to "off" instead of "on"? I'm tired of having to hold the button down for seven seconds every time I start the car.

Nanny controls, AFM, skip shift...etc. Big brother is ruining the automobile industry in America.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:13 PM   #2
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Does anyone know if there's a way to make the TC and StabiliTrak systems deafault to "off" instead of "on"? I'm tired of having to hold the button down for seven seconds every time I start the car.

Nanny controls, AFM, skip shift...etc. Big brother is ruining the automobile industry in America.
Doesn't the Tune take care of it??? My Dad never uses it, does not seam to make a differences to us.
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I would be interested in this as well.
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Doesn't the Tune take care of it??? My Dad never uses it, does not seam to make a differences to us.
I have a dyno tune, but I did'nt think to ask the tuner to modify the nannies. I don't even know if you can (hence the reason for this thread). I'm not trying to disable them completely. I just want the default status to be "off," instead of "on." I suppose if I had to disable them permanently, I might be open to that.

I hate the fact that they kick in every time I floor it. It's especially embarrassing when I forget to disable them at the track.
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I want to know this as well, i was told by someone to pull fuses. I am getting a dyno tune in a week and want ro know what to ask tuner. I am also removing side airbags, can the tuner disable the warning lights?
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:28 PM   #6
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I want to know this as well, i was told by someone to pull fuses. I am getting a dyno tune in a week and want ro know what to ask tuner. I am also removing side airbags, can the tuner disable the warning lights?
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...I am also removing side airbags, can the tuner disable the warning lights?
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That would be great, it's a pain in the butt turning them off.
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Old 09-14-2011, 04:56 PM   #9
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SLP made a TCS reversal module for the 4th gen F-Body..........maybe a few dozen e-mails to them will help encourage them to make one for the 5th gen.
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:19 PM   #10
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SLP made a TCS reversal module for the 4th gen F-Body..........maybe a few dozen e-mails to them will help encourage them to make one for the 5th gen.
That would be the ticket! That way you could still turn them on in bad weather if you wanted.
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I think my Dad's are turned off, HP tuners. Man I feel no differences when holding that button down other then seeing the lights on the dash. Could be wrong.
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I have a dyno tune, but I did'nt think to ask the tuner to modify the nannies. I don't even know if you can (hence the reason for this thread). I'm not trying to disable them completely. I just want the default status to be "off," instead of "on." I suppose if I had to disable them permanently, I might be open to that.

I hate the fact that they kick in every time I floor it. It's especially embarrassing when I forget to disable them at the track.

What Do U mean by this???
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Old 09-14-2011, 07:59 PM   #13
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Stabilitrak and some of the tcs are controlledby the ebcm, no tuning suite will be able to touch that stuff. You can disable the power reduction part of the tcs in the ecm, but even with that disabled, the stabilitrak will still apply some brake pressure on the rears to try and stop/control the wheelspin. In most cases it will power through that.

Holding the button is the only way as of now, to fully disable it, OR pull the ABS fuses at the track. Be aware the brakes will suck with the fuses pulled, but there will be no stabilitrak assist.
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:03 PM   #14
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Good to know. Just do not feel any thing different. Well Understandable?
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If its not spinning it won't feel different. The only nanny that will pull power out without spinning is tq mgt, tip-in tq mgt, etc. That can use a blend of spark reduction and/or throttle reduction to limit torque to a calculated figure.
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What Do U mean by this???
When the weather is warm, I usually shut the engine down in the staging lane. The problem with this is I have to remember to disable the nannies when I restart the car for the burnout. If I don't, the guys standing around the water box are greatly amused because the TCS shuts me down when the tires start to spin.

It can also be frustrating (if not dangerous) when you go to pass someone on the highway, and all of the sudden your power is gone. It's easier to compensate for the rear wheels breaking loose than it is to compensate for a sudden lack of power when I'm in the wrong lane looking straight ahead at oncoming traffic.

I want to be the one who decides when, and how much, to get out of the throttle.
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you can have the tcs power loss reduced by tuning, so it is still on but not as dangerous, but on city streets i would not disable stabillitrac, that is dangerous
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..., but on city streets i would not disable stabillitrac, that is dangerous
You mean all those decades I drove a car without an onboard computer, I was cheating death?

Just kidding.
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you can have the tcs power loss reduced by tuning, so it is still on but not as dangerous, but on city streets i would not disable stabillitrac, that is dangerous
Dude...really?...I agree the car is "safer" with it all enabled...but come on...when it isn't raining...if you're expecting stability control to make you a hero...you're going to wreck the car (hopefully you won't hurt anyone else)...the only reason I have for turning them off is that when I want the car sideways, I want the car sideways...the rest of the time, I don't want to look at the lights on the dash, and the car is NOT intrusive to me at all...TC and stability control never really interfere with my commute.

I had disabled the TC systems ability to affect the engine...and all that did was force it to push through the rear brakes...so I switched it back, and I just disable it when I want it off.
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..., and the car is NOT intrusive to me at all...TC and stability control never really interfere with my commute...
Perhaps I drive too aggressively.

Seriously, though, it's frustrating when it kicks in because I forgot to turn it off. I wouldn't mind having it on in dicey weather, but this is not how I learned to drive. It may indeed be a generational thing. I fly for a living, and when the younger guys get in the ****pit, the first thing they do is turn on the autopilot. The first thing I do when I take the controls back is disengage it.


EDIT: Now the word "****pit" is not PC? What am I supposed to call it, the pilot-airplane interface station?
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Does anyone know if there's a way to make the TC and StabiliTrak systems deafault to "off" instead of "on"? I'm tired of having to hold the button down for seven seconds every time I start the car.

Nanny controls, AFM, skip shift...etc. Big brother is ruining the automobile industry in America.
Why turn it off every time you get in? They should never activate (and thus be equivilant to 'off') unless you're driving recklessly...in which case - that's on you.

Nothing to do with Big Brother - everything to do with safety and the faster-than-human electronic assists that can save our lives every once in a while.
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Why turn it off every time you get in? They should never activate (and thus be equivilant to 'off') unless you're driving recklessly...in which case - that's on you.

Nothing to do with Big Brother - everything to do with safety and the faster-than-human electronic assists that can save our lives every once in a while.
Reckless?

When you've logged forty mishap-free driving years and ten thousand mishap-free flight hours, we'll talk about it.

I said I would turn it on when road conditions warranted having it on. I don't consider controlling my own throttle to be a death-defying stunt.

Furthermore, I don't begrudge you driving with it on all the time. Why should you care if I want mine off?

I just asked if it could be done, not a lecture on why I shouldn't do it.
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Even if I had a switch to flip instead of holding a button down for 7 seconds I would be happy. Thats 7 seconds if you held it down right the 1st time, and the 7 more when you realise you were'nt holding your mouth right.
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Reckless?

When you've logged forty mishap-free driving years and ten thousand mishap-free flight hours, we'll talk about it.

I said I would turn it on when road conditions warranted having it on. I don't consider controlling my own throttle to be a death-defying stunt.

Furthermore, I don't begrudge you driving with it on all the time. Why should you care if I want mine off?

I just asked if it could be done, not a lecture on why I shouldn't do it.
I don't care if you like it off...far be it from me to judge other people's preferences, even if I can't understand them.

All I meant to say is that the road conditions either need to be bad, or the driving ...."questionable" (let's use that word, instead) for Stabilitrac to interefere worth noticing...So if the circumstances don't fit those bills...turning it off, in my opinion, becomes a mind-over-matter type deal...

No lecture. No judgement, and no offense. Just commenting and sharing my thoughts....
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When doing a burn out, can do it fine w/o touching the button on his car.
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