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Old 09-15-2011, 01:05 PM   #51
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As DG said, "Z/28" is a registered trade mark of GM, so someone has created an "unlicensed" copy of the emblem as both a badge and an heat-stick embroidered emblem.

GM might be interested to know who that "someone" was...
Looks like 1st gen. emblems. It would look better without the bowtie.
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:12 PM   #52
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Sorry, must have posted while I was typing.

Also installed houndstooth interior which is actually the first one I have seen and it doesn't look too bad. Ask dealer to call previous owner and get his view on if the dealer is taking credit for his work.
I agree, maybe the new Z/28 can be optioned with it.
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:19 PM   #53
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Oh and the left front tire is low on air

All in all, I think it all looks pretty cool if your vision is to bring more of the 69 history into a fifth gen. Price seems really high for a used 1SS though IMO. Thanks for sharing OP.
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:06 PM   #54
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In the dealers description it says "Z28 Camaro." So they are claiming it to be a Z28, whether they put the emblems on there or not. You guys trying to beret the OP for posting this need to calm down lol.
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:11 PM   #55
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link to dealer website? I want a good laugh.
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:20 PM   #56
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The local Chevy dealer in my town is adding cold air intake, changing exhaust, adding aluminun head covers, tuning, and adding Z28 emblems and selling them on the lot with warranty. They are also claiming 530 hp from 426. The salesman started one up for me yesterday and man did that exhaust sound sweet. Does that increase in hp sound right?


It's true I saw that car at that dealer in Senaca SC visiting my mom and pop.(on the lake)
I laughed at them.
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Old 09-15-2011, 03:12 PM   #57
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In the dealers description it says "Z28 Camaro." So they are claiming it to be a Z28, whether they put the emblems on there or not. You guys trying to beret the OP for posting this need to calm down lol.
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Z28 CAMARO WITH Z28 EMBLEMS INSIDE AND OUT, HOUNDSTOOTH INTERIOR, K&N INTAKE, AND SO MUCH MORE! BEAUTIFUL CAR, AMAZING SOUND! Please call us for more information.
I'll be danged, I missed the first Z28...yep, they probably ought to get that off the website.
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Old 09-16-2011, 05:45 AM   #58
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they want extra for the interior and badges.. its a 1SS not even RS package...wtf dealer..
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Old 09-16-2011, 09:57 AM   #59
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link to dealer website? I want a good laugh.
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Old 09-16-2011, 12:24 PM   #60
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Wow- that interior is terrible!!!
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Old 09-19-2011, 04:12 PM   #61
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I'd like to apologize for my IOM counterpart that did this..... wherever that person is...
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Old 09-20-2011, 12:21 AM   #62
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Old 09-20-2011, 12:36 AM   #63
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Need bowtie delete for weightsavings.
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:10 AM   #64
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Need bowtie delete for weightsavings.
Hope to have bowtie delete on the new Z/28.
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Old 10-04-2011, 08:14 AM   #65
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How is this different from the ' 2011 SLP Camaro ZL1' or any other SS with a supercharger and badges thrown on it?
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Old 10-04-2011, 09:28 AM   #66
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How is this different from the ' 2011 SLP Camaro ZL1' or any other SS with a supercharger and badges thrown on it?
SLP has the trademark rights to ZL as of right now, so they can build what ever they want and slap that name on it.

GM/Chevrolet have never sold off the Z-28 name to anyone, thus it's a trademark infringement. Even though it's on a Chevrolet Camaro.
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Old 10-04-2011, 10:25 AM   #67
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It's a dealer badged z28.. I don't see any big deal with a dealer doing that.. dealers customize cars all the time... Is it a licensed official z28 from GM ? No of course not and as long as they don't try and sell it as such people need to relax about it...LOL

WHAT I do question is 104 hp from a CAI and exhaust... do they have any dyno slips to prove it or is it that an estimate from doing mods and a tune

They are selling a customized car, I dont see the big deal or outrage about it.. Its a dealer version.. not licensed.. not sure its illegal to do that.. ?

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Old 10-04-2011, 10:29 AM   #68
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Really,come on.
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Old 12-08-2011, 02:24 PM   #69
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I'm hoping fbodfather reads this thread...... GM's attorneys would probably like to speak to this dealership. In person. With cease and decist court orders in hand.

Since "Z28" is a registered trademark of GM and Chevrolet, it is illegal for anyone to make a profit by selling anything labeled, advertised, or passed on as such whether expressed or implied as a "Z28" if it is not a Z28 as made by GM.

The same exact laws apply here as someone pirating music, and then selling it to make a profit.

If this dealer makes a profit larger than what would reasonably be expected by selling this SS as if it were an SS and nothing more or different, that is illegal.
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Old 12-08-2011, 03:20 PM   #70
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It called a "clone" and it is done all the time.
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Old 12-08-2011, 04:30 PM   #71
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How do you know the dealer did it? Where does it say it's new?
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Old 12-08-2011, 06:02 PM   #72
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hey Kowalski....I think your dealer ate too much Kielbasa
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Old 12-08-2011, 06:21 PM   #73
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What a joke.

My favorite part is that the "title" for the car listing is:
"Used 2011 Chevrolet Camaro 1SS"

With the description of:

"Z28 CAMARO-Complete exhaust upgrade, headers included, computer tweaked-pushing 538 HP! One of a Kind; with Hounds tooth '69 Repro interior! Sold new for $44,800...OMG it's yours for only $33,600!!! Come hear the unmistakable ROAR this engine makes!!! With headers all the way through, K&N Cold Air Intake System, 'Sweep you off your feet' fast manual transmission-and UNBELIEVABLE '69 muscle car look and feel!!! YOU WILL NOT FIND THIS CAR ON ANY OTHER LOT-CUSTOM MADE-CUSTOM DESIGN!!!! LOCAL, ONE OWNER, TRADE-IN-TOO MUCH CAR FOR ORIGINAL OWNER-CAN YOU HANDLE THE POWER???!!! Come take a test drive today!!! Please call us for more information."

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It called a "clone" and it is done all the time.
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How do you know the dealer did it? Where does it say it's new?
According to the OP, the DEALER (not the previous owner) added the Z28 badge, then proceeded to advertise it as a Z28 if you read the exact dealer advertisement.

Doing so as an expectation to increase profit is called copywright infringement. It would NOT be copywright infringement if they had put the Z28 badge on it then proceeded to advertise it as an SS, which is what it is.

Adding the Z28 sticker then ADVERTISING it as a Z28 in writing is where the law is broken.
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:42 AM   #75
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I think this kind of advertising is exactly why dealers need to be held to a better GM standard. The poor public Joe can be fooled to spend more money on an icon with Internet dyno numbers. Give me a break a 100hp increase for headers intake tune and exhaust! Yes it problably can be done but I'm sure they did not pull the engine to dyno it and advertising it at 538 implys that. You could never get that much from the rear wheels without some undisclosed power adders.

I hate hearing this - I own 3 Z28s and think clones and tributes are ok and every generation Up till now has them. You can not clone a 5thGen as a Z28 because there has to be a 5thGen Z28 which there is not! I know my dealer does silly and dumb stuff to make money but this add is shameful - GM just say no if not for Joe do it because the lawyers should know.
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