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Old 12-13-2006, 04:25 PM   #1
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How to clean sharpie off leather and everything else in ur car.

Long story short. My 2 year old boy was playing in the car while I was detailing it this afternoon. He found the silver sharpie. :eek: I look in...silver sharpie all over the left door.. .leather and plastic. All over the steering wheel, top, center, radio controls, left blinker. All over the center console, both cupholders, stick shift. :eek: All over the back leather seat and passenger side plastic whatchamacallit (holds the speaker). A few marks between the rear seats on the hump in the carpet. I freak out. I try to use rubbing alky. It lightens up the door pretty good. Ouch. Wife runs out w/ ............

MR CLEAN MAGIC ERASER. Cleaned it all up.

Check it out if you haven't ever tried it. This thing cleans just about everything. I can't tell you how freaked I was. But, after a few minutes of scrubbing w/ the eraser and it was pretty good. I slapped some leather treatment on the seats, etc. and it was good as new, no probs.

Lesson learned...Don't let boyo play in the car unsupervised. I also found a strange noise of what sounded like change falling or rattling around evertime I turned the steering wheel. Yeah, he thought it would be fun to put my spare change in the top of the steering wheel. I got it out though.
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How could I be mad at my little guy. He had no clue. His hands had silver sharpie all over them. I found numerous spots he touched w/ his sharpie handprints....kinda funny. Luckily, it all came off. That scared the hell outta me for sure.

So I almost did the whole detail today. Began at noon and finished at 6pm. Started w/ the dawn soap to strip the wax, then hit it with the clay bar, washed it w/ pantene pro v, then used the orbital buffer w/ the step 3 mothers detail, step 2 mothers detail, and finally ran out of light. I still have the mothers synwax to apply, but don't think that's gonna get done. I tried to take some pix, but they all turned out fuzzy in the dark. I'll post some pix tomorrow. Here's the only cool shot that came out.

Still kinda fuzzy and out of focus.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:31 PM   #6
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:eek: Man! You had me sweatin' that one Tag! Glad everything turned out OK!

Car looks awesome! 'Mothers' is good "stuff". I used that before switching to "Zaino'.

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I sure do love lookin at that camaro, damn fine piece of machinery, I let the wife read the threads, she is a firm believer in MR. Clean magic eraser. Her question was: why Pantene to wash the car, and what kind?
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:10 PM   #8
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I sure do love lookin at that camaro, damn fine piece of machinery, I let the wife read the threads, she is a firm believer in MR. Clean magic eraser. Her question was: why Pantene to wash the car, and what kind?
Thanks for the compliments everyone.

The dawn cuts through all the wax and gets it down to bear clear coat. The clay bar takes off all the imperfections. Now, you're down to no protection on the paint. I was told Pantene was extremely mild and very gentle on the paint. One of the guys on another forum has tried just about everything and stuck w/ the pantene. Thought I'd give it a try. It turned out great! Lemme find out what kind and I'll edit this post here in a couple. Edit: Just regular old pantene pro v. Type I used was for "thick and full" hair.
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AH......December in Texas, and a guy can still wash his car in shorts. haha
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AH......December in Texas, and a guy can still wash his car in shorts. haha
Hell, Yeah!

Oh, and the pantene is supposed to put oils back in the paint that it loses over time. I don't know if that's true or not, but why not give it a shot? Also, I've heard a teaspoon of olive oil is also supposed to help. I've never tried that one, though.
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Thanks for the compliments everyone.

Now, you're down to no protection on the paint. I was told Pantene was extremely mild and very gentle on the paint. One of the guys on another forum has tried just about everything and stuck w/ the pantene.

No disrespect TAG, BUT COME ON, are you friggen kidding, you bought that line of poo. People, what do you think base coat /clear coat paint is? Base = paint = color and sheet metal protector (Keeps your metal from rusting). Clear Coat = paint protector and shine (a shield for the paint from the elements). Do you honestly think that car soap is going to damage your clear coat? “Now, you're down to no protection on the paint”. Now that’s a good one.
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Hell, Yeah!

Oh, and the pantene is supposed to put oils back in the paint that it looses over time. I don't know if that's true or not, but why not? Also, I've heard a teaspoon of olive oil is also supposed to help. I've never tried that one, though.
I don't even know how to come back on that one...
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:06 AM   #13
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Yup, what I said does sound a little "off". When I said no protection at all and that it's down to the paint, I should have said clear coat. What I mean by protection is the wax that is applied on top of the paint. No protection at all is no wax. How do you feel when all the wax is stripped off your car? You feel like there is no protection at all.

As far as the "puts oils back in the paint"...clear coat is on top of the "paint". You can't put oils back into paint when you can't even get to the paint. I read the detailing thread from the guys who posted it (CamaroZ28.com) and they said pantene was supposed to help the paint. I don't know and I couldn't tell you if it really worked. It looks badass and let me tell you....it smelled great when I was cleaning it!!! As you see above, I said,

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Hey just as long as he doesn't put "Herbal Essance" on the Camaro, and start saying "Ohhhh Ahhhh....Oh Yes Oh Yes....YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!"

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No worries TAG, no one is immune to the ongoing BS the internet is overflowing with.

Seeing how I have been in the Automotive Industry for more than half of my life and a majority of that dealing with auto body, I’ll give you my 2 cents of BS.

First, I would wash the car with dish soap (Dawn). Dish soap removes what is left of the last wax job and any other road grime/grease but you already new that. If you live in the country where bugs are plentiful and splattered all over the front of your vehicle I would invest in some bug remover spray. This stuff is the shit when it comes to taking off caked on bug guts from high speed impacts.

Second, I would use a clay bar for taking any other imperfections off. Use as needed. Not need every time. I mainly use the clay bar for rail dust and industrial fall out. The clay bar may work on small splotches of tar but for major tar spots I would invest in automotive tar remover.

Third, I use the Meguiars 3 Step “DEEP CRYSTAL SYSTEM”. The DEEP CRYSTAL SYSTEM is the best inexpensive product I have found that can even come close to competing with 3M Auto Body products. Hell it might even be better.

Step 1. Paint Cleaner

Step 2. Polish

Step 3. Carnauba Wax.

This method does take up the better part of a day. Follow the directions on the bottles. I apply each step with a small 100% cotton applicator pad. Use small circular motions when applying (Wax on Wax off Grasshopper). After allowing the product to dry I remove it with 100% cotton hand towels in the same manner. Remember to wash the vehicle with Dawn between each step. Also, start each steep with a new clean applicator pad and hand towel. Washing and changing the pad/towel is a must. It’s called the 3 step system for a reason.

SAFETY NOTE! I always wear “Thicksters” (Blue rubber automotive gloves similar to surgical gloves only thicker) when applying any product other than the dish soap. There are lots of unfriendly chemicals in all this shit.

For regular cleaning I use the MR. Clean car wash system.

All of these products I have mentioned can be obtained at any local automotive store.

When you are done you are going to look like this, when you eye your black beauty.

The first time I used this system on my truck everyone thought I had repainted it...
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Old 12-14-2006, 07:51 AM   #16
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I've never heard of using 'Pantene' or any other shampoo in detailing. Not to say "one way or the other", just never heard of it.

I've been using 'Zaino' now for about 5 years, if not longer. And while it is at times a pain that you can't buy it in the local automotive store, IMO, it's the best. 'Meguires', 'Mothers', etc., are good as well, but their durability isn't the same. As a result of using 'Zaino', I've ended up detailing cars for people, and the business continues to increase. They have seen the SS and cannot believe it's a '99. I offer my customers the choice of spending a little more money and using 'Zaino', or saving some money and using 'Meguires', or 'Mothers', etc., and quite a few who choose the wax route, after seeing the "beading effect" diminish after several weeks, ask for 'Zaino'. Now, please, before anyone starts calling me a "shill" (sp.?) for 'Zaino', I'm not. I just like the product ALOT. IMO, 'Meguires', 'Mothers', are very good as well, just from my experiences, they don't last as long.

Also, something else I thought I'd mention. Make sure and use the proper towels, sponge, etc.! I've seen guys do a detailing job only to have their work ruined by using an inferior towel/rag to remove the polish/wax. :(

As for my personal detailing of the SS, seeing as it's kept in the garage, I usually give it the "full treatment" every 6 months. This consists of washing it in 'Dawn', claying, followed by 3 coats of 'Zaino'. Also on average, I apply another coat of 'Zaino' several times a month.

And, I know, I DO sound like a salesperson for 'Zaino', but personally, I love it. :o If anyone has been looking for a GREAT leather cleaner and conditioner, 'Zaino'. It is the ONLY product I found to thoroughly clean while leaving a great "new leather" smell.

Seriously, "to each their own". 'Zaino' is what works for me. I'm only offering up my thoughts and opinions as a means of help. I'm NOT trying to tell anyone not to use what they like, etc..

I'm just a true believer in the stuff. I don't even advertise, and when people see the SS, they want their cars to look like mine! And I can honestly say every one of them has been amazed and not only been a "return customer", but alot of them have brought me more business.

OK. I apologize for my rambling. :o Sorry. :(
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I know my previous posts sounded kinda "off" with the pantene thing. I know I also worded the posts kind wierd. My bad. I baby my SS as best as I can. This is the end result after Dawn, Clay bar, pantene wash... , Step 1 and 2 of Mothers. I always wear the gloves as well. I only use the orbital buffer and the bonnets that go with them. I don't use towels. All it takes is one crazy piece of crap in the towel and you've got urself a new scratch. I will try Zaino and see how it works. My beading effect only lasts a couple of weeks as well. Enjoy the pix. Thanks for the advice Killer and Moose. I'll give both a shot. This took 6 hours to do...with lunch on only one quick break.









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:eek: Did I say....:eek: ????

Looks GREAT!!!

Very nice work buddy!!!

PS; Like the liscense plate frame!
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Oh! I thought of your next "job"!

Time to polish the underneath!!! :eek:

I decided to lay under the SS and start cleaning it after a friend of mine showed me his exhaust. So, after many stiff necks, and a sore back, I just had to clean mine... I haven't touched it since the back operation though...:o
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Time to polish the underneath!!! :eek:

I decided to lay under the SS and start cleaning it after a friend of mine showed me his exhaust. So, after many stiff necks, and a sore back, I just had to clean mine... I haven't touched it since the back operation though...:o
WHAT??? Clean underneath??? :eek: LOL. I can barely find the time to do a "quick" detail like this. And...I still need to get the interior! If I actually have the time and don't have the wife yelling at me, "are you done yet? When are you coming inside? Are you done yet?" then, I might get to the exhause tips. I've done them before and need to hit them w/ the chrome polish again. They are pretty bad right now. I just hope I get to enjoy the current wash/wax long enough before it rains again. Next on the to do list: Rotate tires, re-adjust rear parking brake, turn front rotors, change front brake pads...and that should do it for now.

Thanks again for the compliments! As for the "yes it's fast...no you can't drive it" license plate frame, I found that at the 02 Super Chevy show and had to have it. It's been on my Camaros ever since.
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The best polish I've used is "Zaino". It is the only polish that you can have multiple layers. It is so deep in shine. It was voted the best polish in Corvette fever magazine three years in a row. www.zainostore.com
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The best polish I've used is "Zaino". It is the only polish that you can have multiple layers. It is so deep in shine. It was voted the best polish in Corvette fever magazine three years in a row. www.zainostore.com
If you and Moose reccomend it, it sounds like my next purchase will be Zaino! I've tried numerous brands finding some good, some bad. The only reason I use Mothers is because that's what they use on Overhaulin. Well, that and it does shine it up better than anything else I've tried. If Chip Foose uses it on all his cars, it's gotta be good, right? Next wash/wax...Zaino for sure.
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If you and Moose reccomend it, it sounds like my next purchase will be Zaino! I've tried numerous brands finding some good, some bad. The only reason I use Mothers is because that's what they use on Overhaulin. Well, that and it does shine it up better than anything else I've tried. If Chip Foose uses it on all his cars, it's gotta be good, right? Next wash/wax...Zaino for sure.
Remember Zaino is just wax and not a clener and polisher... I am going to put it on my list of things to try.
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Remember Zaino is just wax and not a clener and polisher... I am going to put it on my list of things to try.
I gotcha. The Mothers Step 1 is polish, step 2 is a power wax. I could do both of those, or just the step 1 and then the Zaino. Is the Zaino a liquid wax or is it applied w/ an applicator pad? I'm going to give it a shot on the next wash.
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I gotcha. The Mothers Step 1 is polish, step 2 is a power wax. I could do both of those, or just the step 1 and then the Zaino. Is the Zaino a liquid wax or is it applied w/ an applicator pad? I'm going to give it a shot on the next wash.
Get ready for a step up in price......I've heard nothing but praise, but it's still expensive to me.

We ought to see if we can get a group buy going or something?
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