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Old 10-21-2011, 09:21 PM   #1301
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Hey Pete, you got a minute.

Sure. What's up.

I have FIVE SEMA bound vehicles in need of suspension. Can you help.

What have you got?

XXXXXX and nobody has suspension for it yet, but I figured you do.

We do have ONE last set of coilovers, but no lowering coils.

Pete, I HAVE to have five sets. One will be built before SEMA and FOUR at SEMA.

Uhhhhh, I'll figure something out for you.

Cool. I knew I could count on you guys.



Is SEMA over yet
Just a little bit on the last minute side.........
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Old 10-21-2011, 09:27 PM   #1302
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Just a little bit on the last minute side.........
That would be Monday before SEMA opens on Tuesday One point of pride we have at Pedders is EVERY car we have taken to SEMA was a real car. Not a three dimensional full size model. Our cars are Track Ready when we show them.

There are so many stories about people building cars in trailers on the way to SEMA, finishing them at SEMA... the phrase fire drill doesn't begin to cover it.
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With the ZL1's Curb Weight announced @ 4120 (6-speed, no sunroof, roughly 2SS Trim), it would behoove the Team to make things like MR and aux. coolers OPTIONAL on a ZEE, to keep Base Curb Weight (with 1SS Trim equivalent) below 3900...

Of course, a few of these Features aren't mandatory, either...

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Old 10-24-2011, 12:07 PM   #1304
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With the ZL1's Curb Weight announced @ 4120 (6-speed, no sunroof, roughly 2SS Trim), it would behoove the Team to make things like MR and aux. coolers OPTIONAL on a ZEE, to keep Base Curb Weight (with 1SS Trim equivalent) below 3900...
Or just lose the F/I and install a N/A LS7
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:08 PM   #1305
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There are so many stories about people building cars in trailers on the way to SEMA, finishing them at SEMA... the phrase fire drill doesn't begin to cover it.
I never understood the last minute rush that you always see from car builders.

I have a secret for everyone..... SEMA will be next year around the same time. Start planning now!
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:19 PM   #1306
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Or just lose the F/I and install a N/A LS7
That's a start, Pete, but 2 Power Seats, Backup Camera, and Boston Accoustics are not on the wish-list either... We'll let the LS7 supply the "symphony"...

As to the "last minute thrash", it has always been this way...and so shall it remain...
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:22 PM   #1307
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I never understood the last minute rush that you always see from car builders.

I have a secret for everyone..... SEMA will be next year around the same time. Start planning now!
Some shops are better than others at planning, but with brand new platforms many of the upgrades being installed are either early development or prototypes that don't quite fit or work. These variables can throw a HUGE monkey wrench into the most organized and structured businesses. Then there are last minute OEM changes as in we just decided to release a vehicle to your shop for a SEMA build because fill-in-the-blank. Sometimes the build is such a reach, is so over the top a shop of Supermen would struggle to get it done.
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:24 PM   #1308
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Some shops are better than others at planning, but with brand new platforms many of the upgrades being installed are either early development or prototypes that don't quite fit or work. These variables can throw a HUGE monkey wrench into the most organized and structured businesses. Then there are last minute OEM changes as in we just decided to release a vehicle to your shop for a SEMA build because fill-in-the-blank. Sometimes the build is such a reach, is so over the top a shop of Supermen would struggle to get it done.
All good points! I will be the first to admit there is ALOT about the car business that I dont know
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:25 PM   #1309
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All good points! I will be the first to admit there is ALOT about the car business that I dont know
That would be true of you, me and even those that have worked inside for 30 years.
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:29 PM   #1310
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That would be true of you, me and even those that have worked inside for 30 years.


It is a forever evolving business!
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As to the "last minute thrash", it has always been this way...and so shall it remain...
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Those "check lists" have a way of e-x-p-a-n-d-i-n-g as the finale arrives...last minute changes, "forgot about that/those", ad nauseum...
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:42 PM   #1313
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Mac, some projects don't even see the "green light" until a few weeks/month or two before SEMA. What you will see @ SEMA '12 in unkown, for the most part, today. And what may be "planned" has a way of changing in the "unforeseeable future". GM, as a rule, does NOT commit all of their Show cars to the Aftermarket until (often) June or July and, as Pete has found out even at the 11th hour, suddenly something else arrives at your door that you bend over backwards to accommodate, if possible. That's when the 36-hour day would come in handy...
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:22 PM   #1314
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Mac, some projects don't even see the "green light" until a few weeks/month or two before SEMA. What you will see @ SEMA '12 in unkown, for the most part, today. And what may be "planned" has a way of changing in the "unforeseeable future". GM, as a rule, does NOT commit all of their Show cars to the Aftermarket until (often) June or July and, as Pete has found out even at the 11th hour, suddenly something else arrives at your door that you bend over backwards to accommodate, if possible. That's when the 36-hour day would come in handy...
I was hoping for the 48 hour day
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I was hoping for the 48 hour day
...but you ARE mighty grateful, aren't you?!
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:27 PM   #1316
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...but you ARE mighty grateful, aren't you?!
Absolutely!
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I don't know much, Pete, but THAT I knew!!!

How's the L28 look?!
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:37 PM   #1318
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With the ZL1's Curb Weight announced @ 4120 (6-speed, no sunroof, roughly 2SS Trim), it would behoove the Team to make things like MR and aux. coolers OPTIONAL on a ZEE, to keep Base Curb Weight (with 1SS Trim equivalent) below 3900...

Of course, a few of these Features aren't mandatory, either...

OTHER DETAILS:
Four-pack auxiliary guages (with boost readout)

Also- Standard...

Alloy pedal covers
6-way power driver and passenger seats
Heated leather high-performance seats with microfiber suede inserts
ZL1 sill plates

Bluetooth for select phones
Boston Acoustics premium nine-speaker system
Rear camera display in mirror
Rear park assist

USB port
PDIM (Preferred Device Interface Module)

XM Satellite with 3 trial months
Yes, now that the ZL1 Dealer list is out we can toss out and add to what would make the best factory Z28.
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Mac, some projects don't even see the "green light" until a few weeks/month or two before SEMA. What you will see @ SEMA '12 in unkown, for the most part, today. And what may be "planned" has a way of changing in the "unforeseeable future". GM, as a rule, does NOT commit all of their Show cars to the Aftermarket until (often) June or July and, as Pete has found out even at the 11th hour, suddenly something else arrives at your door that you bend over backwards to accommodate, if possible. That's when the 36-hour day would come in handy...
Its a crazy business!
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Some shops are better than others at planning, but with brand new platforms many of the upgrades being installed are either early development or prototypes that don't quite fit or work. These variables can throw a HUGE monkey wrench into the most organized and structured businesses. Then there are last minute OEM changes as in we just decided to release a vehicle to your shop for a SEMA build because fill-in-the-blank. Sometimes the build is such a reach, is so over the top a shop of Supermen would struggle to get it done.
Unplanned things happen sometimes even when you have the planning and timing set up for "on time". I was doing a dealer seminar for a fairly new music synthesizer model, I had one for a couple of months and had a few weeks to get the seminar ready. I wrote three original songs and fine tuned them to perfection for the seminar, while making some last minute tweaks three days before the seminar, we had a power brown out and I lost three weeks of work in seconds. So I had three days to recreate what I had done since I had not made recent backups, sure taught me a lot about backup your computer, back it up again, then back it up once more just in case. While this is sort of off topic, it goes to show that things can and do happen to delay the completion of a project.
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I never understood the last minute rush that you always see from car builders.

I have a secret for everyone..... SEMA will be next year around the same time. Start planning now!
The time it takes to complete a job expands or contracts depending on the amount of time allocated.
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Unplanned things happen sometimes even when you have the planning and timing set up for "on time". I was doing a dealer seminar for a fairly new music synthesizer model, I had one for a couple of months and had a few weeks to get the seminar ready. I wrote three original songs and fine tuned them to perfection for the seminar, while making some last minute tweaks three days before the seminar, we had a power brown out and I lost three weeks of work in seconds. So I had three days to recreate what I had done since I had not made recent backups, sure taught me a lot about backup your computer, back it up again, then back it up once more just in case. While this is sort of off topic, it goes to show that things can and do happen to delay the completion of a project.
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That was a brutal lesson on frequent back ups My guess is it went great after a couple of sleepless nights?
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I hope they build the Z-28 soon. Many unfilled customers there will be for the ZL1, there is a void that can be filled with ease. There are no real sales the Z-28 would cut into with such a short supply of ZL1's in '12 & '13.
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I said it before, once the ZL1 comes out see the increased need for a Z28 for numerous reasons.
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That was a brutal lesson on frequent back ups My guess is it went great after a couple of sleepless nights?
It did, and since then I keep backups in three different formats in two different physical locations/buildings.
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