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Old 01-11-2008, 06:03 PM   #101
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The concept looks like the Terminator-- very menacing, but- if that's what GM gives us guess I'll be drivin' that.... Whatever, just bring it on!




Still, it looks very close to the concept. Throw some paint on there and it'll be rockin'!

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Old 01-11-2008, 06:10 PM   #102
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I think they are just feeling out opinions about the designs. we will probably see more grill/headlight designs before we see the first pre production cars roll off the line...
Just keep posting your comments. GM IS watching!!!

I like the grill, but not the headlights, just does not look quite right after all the pictures of the concept car...
Keep working on it you almost have it perfect!
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:28 PM   #103
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Here's a chop I did to approximate what features I think will be changed for the production.
Thats what I'm thinking too.
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:34 PM   #104
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Thanx for the front shot Scott!

I lurk more than I post and really enjoy reading all these "reactions". I knew I would be buying one of these awesome vehicles more than a year ago and just like it more every time I see another view.

If GM is listening, you are definitely on the right track; it's just beautiful. Personally, I think that the ram air not being cut-out may indicate that the final version may even have the rear vents cut-out as well Also, I noticed that the front brake vents don't seem to be cut out either so???? I hope they are all cut-out.
Also, I REALLY prefer the Halo headlights and am REALLY hoping for LEDs all the way around (rear, back-up, side markers, etc.) but none of these things would change my mind.
Keep up the awesome job. I can't wait to drive my Hugger Orange w/White stripes, Z28 off the dealers lot!
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:42 PM   #105
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Those vents are not cut out. Perhaps that will change come production
I assumed none of the vents were cut out just because it's pre-production. Final form will be cut out most likely.
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:43 PM   #106
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Practically a spiting image of the concept. I don't know why everyone is freaking out. I mean what the hell do you want? Just compare the pictures. Quad headlamps (w/angel eyes, too) would look good if positioned correctly on the grille. A full frontal view of the actual vehicle probably would be very telling. The vents on the quarter panels aren't even cut out on the concept. Even if they were it would wreck the aerodynamics of the vehicle and they wouldn't do anything anyway. Any of you bailing out on this one just means I can get mine quicker. One less Camaro in Europe means one more in America for me.
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:45 PM   #107
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Kenz made a comment to the front brake vents. I do hope they're there...but I can't see anything down there, do any of you? I can see if they axed that little feature (not a big deal, the car's so low, you'd hardly ever see them).

And I'm very sure (though I don't actually 'know') that the air scoop, and the faux rear brake vents will either be cut-out (brake vents non-functional), or they will be made to look like they're cut-out. And my "very-suredness" extends to believing they'll be cut out.
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:48 PM   #108
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That looks great! I really like the dual headlight look.

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Old 01-11-2008, 07:10 PM   #109
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i knew the concept was missing high beams lmao.

loven the new front end. keep up the excellent work GM. next pic under the hood perhaps.....
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Looks absolutely beautiful. Closer to the concept than I could have hoped. Yet, somehow, better looking than the concept imo.

As I said before, I am pretty sure all the vents (front scoop and side) will be open in the final version. I understand these headlights aren't the final product, but even if they were I'm not totally against them. Though I am still hoping for the halo's.

Strangely while I didn't like pics of the concept without the bowtie, I actually think this version look pretty good without it (looks fine with it too, of course). Could be due to the slightly more 'busy' grille. Not busy in a bad way though.

And regardless of what some may think about white... I LOVE this car in white. I'm 75% sure White will be my color of choice when I order mine.
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:13 PM   #111
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We were asked to "keep the faith" and we have. GM has delivered a vehicle (not finished yet though!!) that has met their promises, something that is very very close to the concept. I for one am very happy with the progress. Some (mostly haters) do not seem to realize that the concept is like a million dollar show car; interior, exterior, and under the hood. We cannot expect GM to deliver that concept car for ~$30k, no way, therefore they should be understanding with the changes that had to be made. And if you don't like it, go buy something else, don't rain on our parade.

When we all roll up in our 5th gens, the mustang and challenger drivers will be sure to turn their heads, just you wait.
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:15 PM   #112
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My only hope on the front end is living in a state that requires a front plate (freaking Missouri), I hope GM can come up with a mounting bracket that goes through the lower air intake and is bolted out of site. I hate that the bracket on my 97 TA is drilled right through the front fascia. This would allow you to take it off for car shows and such without leaving anything unsightly behind.


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Old 01-11-2008, 07:15 PM   #113
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I've been staring at this picture for the last 15 minutes...

Look at those beautiful hips...that grill...the hood is so beefy....

I think I have a problem
15 minutes? I was so distracted by the forum yesterday that I completely forgot to bake a pan of lemon bars for someone's last day at work today. She was disappointed, but she got over it.

Oh my achin' mama's pajamas! I cannot contain myself. I thought my husband was going to call 911 when I yelled. Words cannot express the feeling I get when I see this vehicle. What a masterpiece!
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:36 PM   #114
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Still, it looks very close to the concept. Throw some paint on there and it'll be rockin'!

We have pretty reasonable hope that these aren't the final lights. Cool.

after taking a little more time to really take in the differences I think Eisenhower is right. The grill insert is much more subdued in the prototype. I think by itself it looks good. But when compared to the concept I feel it is lacking. Still a big BIG fan just trying to be a little objective.

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Kenz made a comment to the front brake vents. I do hope they're there...but I can't see anything down there, do any of you? I can see if they axed that little feature (not a big deal, the car's so low, you'd hardly ever see them)......
I don't think they are there. You should be able to see 'em
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:47 PM   #115
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I am SO struggling with the headlights. I like the concept cuz it looked like it was scowling at you. Kinda saying I'm back and I'm pissed. The dual lights don't say the same thing. They are cool just not sure what it does to the cars disposition?

Does that make sense...
Absolutely. Concept front is just fearsome. I can bet, aftermarket can fix/transform production version into 'concept look like' easily. Hp's is what worries me, GM must offer vehicle that is around 500hp's. If they don't, I don't know what to do...
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:17 PM   #116
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My only hope on the front end is living in a state that requires a front plate (freaking Missouri), I hope GM can come up with a mounting bracket that goes through the lower air intake and is bolted out of site. I hate that the bracket on my 97 TA is drilled right through the front fascia. This would allow you to take it off for car shows and such without leaving anything unsightly behind.


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Old 01-11-2008, 08:32 PM   #117
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As it's been said already, these won't be the final lights. I recall when GM was testing the prototype of the new CTS, and they got some "placeholder" lights for the headlamps and taillamps for that car. I'm sure that's what we're seeing here.
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:36 PM   #118
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It's amazing how close you guys have kept it.
I can't remember the last time I saw a production version of a concept end up looking so identical to the concept. In the 90s, Chrysler did a good job translating their concepts to production, but this is just in another league.
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:44 PM   #119
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Absolutely. Concept front is just fearsome. I can bet, aftermarket can fix/transform production version into 'concept look like' easily. Hp's is what worries me, GM must offer vehicle that is around 500hp's. If they don't, I don't know what to do...
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:01 PM   #120
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Haven't had a chance to read the entire thread yet, so I'm not sure if this has been addressed, but if the hood scoop and rear vents aren't cut through, I am simply going to have to replace those body panels if I get the Camaro. That silly "doesn't even look real" fake vent thing may work for Mustangs, Civics, and the like, but it just doesn't cut it for me.

I actually do like that headlamp setup as is though. I'm fine with either way - similar to concept or just like this.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:02 PM   #121
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I'm really confused when people say this isn't true to the concept. I've seen a lot of concepts get watered down over the years and for sure, this is not one of them. You park this prototype next to the concept and 98% of the general public would be unable to tell you what was different.

And for that which is different (light placement, side markers, mirror size), we can thank our goverment for probably 75% of the differences.

I just can't wait to see the final product in a black or blue or maybe even red. Better still, I want to HEAR and FEEL the final product with me in the driver's seat, smoke billowing off the rear tires from launch, then through the gears with some spin in each gear all that way up to 100mph or so..er I mean up to 65mph (that correction is for you TAG, sorry I got excited).
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:34 PM   #122
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I'm really confused when people say this isn't true to the concept. I've seen a lot of concepts get watered down over the years and for sure, this is not one of them. You park this prototype next to the concept and 98% of the general public would be unable to tell you what was different.

And for that which is different (light placement, side markers, mirror size), we can thank our goverment for probably 75% of the differences.
This is exactly accurate.... every change from the concept to the production car was to meet regulations or simply to fit real-sized people and tires etc into the car. Maybe a few changes were to keep it under 3 million dollars I guess but if you overlay the two in the computer they are REALLY close and if you randomly place them around the studio together it's almost impossible to tell which is which without really concentrating. Seriously. There were no design 'changes'.... it was a direct translation from concept to reality as faithfully as possible by much of the same team that did the original.
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Yeah lets look at prototype GTRs or LFAs compared to production models. This thing survived remarkably well, with the exception of the vents.
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I'm really confused when people say this isn't true to the concept. I've seen a lot of concepts get watered down over the years and for sure, this is not one of them. You park this prototype next to the concept and 98% of the general public would be unable to tell you what was different.

I completely agree. How many of us have viewed every single picture we can find posted to the web, drooled over every photo shopped photo we can save to our computers (and perhaps photoshoped one of those into a phot of our garage), and have Jada cars sitting on our desks (at home AND at work!) I think GM has done an awesome job. Sure, the preproduction cars have have some issues to be resolved. Let's let them work it out, and then point me to the dealership!

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