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Old 10-27-2011, 03:09 PM   #51
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this may be the Z28.it sure looks like what i imagine a Z28 would look like.all it needs is the badges.
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:11 PM   #52
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I'd trade mine for that. Road racing FTW.
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:13 PM   #53
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Really like this as an option to go for the Magnetic suspension. Definitely a happy-medium between the ZL1 and the SS.
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:18 PM   #54
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:19 PM   #55
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It needs to drop all that leather interior and lose some weight in places other than wheels and rotors. Cloth buckets with mechanical adjustments, no seat warmers, etc. All that stuff adds weight. Yes, I know they've made the ZL1 perform thus far with heavy weight in it, but, that will add extra wear on the systems, even if they're designed for it. You can't add mass without it effecting something somewhere. It may be faster tire wear, shorter lasting bushings, more frequent fluid changes, etc.. It always has to be accounted for.

Not every model Camaro needs to be a luxury coupe on the inside.. It looks like it's trying to be a ZL1 minus the LSA engine.

I think it's a nice start, but I personally would just like to see it go more towards performance considerations than creature comforts. 2LT/2SS and ZL1 are pretty much already that in the V6/V8 world.
Yeah, I remember the 4th gen 1LE didn't have accessories like power windows and AC, had bigger sway bars and a stiff suspension. That made it a pure track car. If they do it with the 5th gen, that would be cool...not to mention shave off some weight. Remember the B4C police package. Similar...almost.

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I second your disagreement. Make it a pure race car like the SSX minus the rear wing and you got a nice track car. Who needs power windows anyway. AC is nice option but not needed.
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:25 PM   #56
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I second your disagreement. Make it a pure race car like the SSX minus the rear wing and you got a nice track car. Who needs power windows anyway. AC is nice option but not needed.
Yes, that's what I was getting at... We already have fully loaded SS, LT and ZL1s... A 1LE shouldn't, in my mind, have all of that other stuff in it that's not really needed. Yes, it's nice, but it's not really a "road racer" at that point as much as it's a high performance luxury coupe.

I know many people like all their pretty and comfy internals, but one can't have everything... Is it too much to ask to have a "Stripper Z" again?
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:26 PM   #57
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If this becomes production I hope they don't keep it the 1LE... I want a Z28.
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:26 PM   #58
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Not bad, but in order to be worthy of the 1LE name or even a Z28 and differentiate it from the SS and be “It’s an all-out race car package..." it needs to lose weight more than anything else. Replace front fenders, hood, trunk, door steel w/ composites, lose the rear seats, lose some sound deadening.
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:29 PM   #59
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:32 PM   #60
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:32 PM   #61
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oh yeah, if it has magnetic ride, why doesn't it have all the other traction mode buttons that the ZL1 has?
Because those buttons control Performance Traction Management first and foremost, as you adjust the PTM the Suspension adjusts with it. They probably won't do the same thing or even exist in the Auto ZL1 as PTM is a Manual Exclusive Feature along with Launch Control or at least that's what the leaked dealer info says.
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:55 PM   #62
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I like everything about it including the fender stripes (though they need to be on both sides). I would buy this even if it was called 1LE. With the little performance things they've added it would definitely outperform an SS. If they decide not to build a fifth gen Z28 this would definitely hold me off till the sixth gen. This really needs to see production, but I'm waiting for the Z-diehards to chime in that this car isn't Z28 worthy.
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:58 PM   #63
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Looks SWEET! Now put a LS7 in it & call it a Z/28 please!
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:04 PM   #64
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Yes, that's what I was getting at... We already have fully loaded SS, LT and ZL1s... A 1LE shouldn't, in my mind, have all of that other stuff in it that's not really needed. Yes, it's nice, but it's not really a "road racer" at that point as much as it's a high performance luxury coupe.

I know many people like all their pretty and comfy internals, but one can't have everything... Is it too much to ask to have a "Stripper Z" again?
First of all this is a ShowCar, not a ProductionCar...so it's gotta be "purdy".

Second of all, ShowCars are created to gauge customer interest/intent...and foster feedback, be it + or -...

Third of all, by the time a ZEE arrives, it'll likely be based on a 1SS chassis...perhaps with 2SS Trim as an option.

Personally, put the Base cloth/non-powered seat from the LS in this one, save some weight, shave some co$t...paint it Black-on-Black, hold the stripes, slap an LS7 in there where it belongs...and I'll pick it up next Tuesday!
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:05 PM   #65
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Also -- my comment about dropping the leather interior and losing weight in other places were independent thoughts, but I see how they could have been read together. I meant, no leather interior and lose weight in other areas of the car, not just in the wheel and rotor -- as in -- drive shaft, flywheel, engine, etc. anywhere it can be found.
so you disagree that it would add more cost?
Do you understand how it works?
You remove things like pwer windows and power seats, they're going to have to use other part like manual windows and seat levers to replace them. Items that are currently not in the parts bin.
Hence = added cost.
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:12 PM   #66
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For a new performance model to be added to the Camaro lineup this car would fit perfectly between ZL1 and SS. Everybody wants an LS7 or some new type of engine, but that would put it right near the price of the ZL1. Call it Z28, 1LE or whatever, if this car is available for under 42k, I'll get one.
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:16 PM   #67
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Zl1 Rear!!!!!! Please!!!
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:16 PM   #68
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I like the red/matte black look but it seems incomplete in the back with the chrome exhaust tips and chrome taillight surrounds. To complete the look the surrounds need to be matte black and the tips need to be matte/flat black or black chrome. This would complete the red/matte black theme. If it were my ride, I'd look aftermarket to do it.

Anyone with photoshop skills that could take that rear shot with black taillight surrounds and matte black tips or black chrome tips? Thanks!!!
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:19 PM   #69
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I say keep they should keep the power windows and air conditioning, I think its a must on any car nowadays. Even if the "future supposed Z28" is a track car, people still may use it as a DD.

If they are going to make this car a Z28 in the future, I think they need to change it up a bit. It looks too close to a ZL1 IMO.

My ideal Z28:
-19" black mesh lightweight wheels
- low wing spoiler
- lightweight racing seats
- full carbon fiber hood and trunk
- track pack suspension kit
- about 480-500 hp
- whatever other weight they can take out without losing the air and power windows
- $45k base
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:21 PM   #70
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so you disagree that it would add more cost?
Do you understand how it works?
You remove things like pwer windows and power seats, they're going to have to use other part like manual windows and seat levers to replace them. Items that are currently not in the parts bin.
Hence = added cost.
Yes, deleting certain features can cost more. Porche for example has had several high performance models over the years that you could delete certain option to save weight. But it cost more because they were not standard parts.
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:22 PM   #71
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i'm going to go out on a limb and say this is the only color combo available. or else they wouldn't have listed the color as a new feature. i hope i'm wrong.
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:23 PM   #72
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I am wondering if the Z/28 might be coming with the 6th gen lifetime. Turbos, kinda like a Jay Leno style setup? Just wondering.
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:28 PM   #73
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Ok this car is a no brainer to build. Call it the 1LE suspension package like before. Also imo GM was right by nameing it the 1LE concept and not Z/28, the Z28 would flatout need more power. This package looks like it could be a nice $3500-4000 option to add on to the SS.
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:38 PM   #74
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:44 PM   #75
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