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Old 10-05-2011, 12:36 AM   #1
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Header Install Checklist...

Heres all the stuff that I have or have ordered for when we install my headers..
  • Headers, check
  • Y-Pipe, ordered check
  • TR55 Platinum Spark Plugs, ordered Check
  • Gaskets, reusing stock
  • Bolts, possibly reusing stock?
  • No clamps, welding ORY onto headers
  • o2 extensions, check
  • Tuner,check
  • Permagrin, In the making
  • Friend for manual labor/welding, check

I just don't want to get into it and be missing something...
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:16 AM   #2
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I'm an aircraft maintainer and it's kind of engrained into my head to never reuse gaskets or seals. You're asking for leaks if you do that. I wouldn't reuse the header bolts either. I'm pretty sure those are designed to be one-time use items as well. Other than that I think you're ready.
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:55 AM   #3
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welding the ory is a mistake.. maybe a few tacks to hold it from slipping dont weld it soild or you will regret it

the oem gasket is MLS and is fine to re-use.. so are the bolts.. loctite them
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Old 10-05-2011, 11:06 AM   #4
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I'm an aircraft maintainer and it's kind of engrained into my head to never reuse gaskets or seals. You're asking for leaks if you do that. I wouldn't reuse the header bolts either. I'm pretty sure those are designed to be one-time use items as well. Other than that I think you're ready.
I've actually heard to either buy stock gaskets or reuse them, but I don't know about bolts.. mine seem to be in decent shape as they are now

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welding the ory is a mistake.. maybe a few tacks to hold it from slipping dont weld it soild or you will regret it

the oem gasket is MLS and is fine to re-use.. so are the bolts.. loctite them
Why shouldn't I weld? The guy I'm buying it from said he has it welded... But in all honesty, It's so tight that tacks are probably easier. I unhooked all the clamps on my catback to adjust it when it was vibrating, and it was a pain to move everything when it wasn't hooked up, so I'm not too worried about it moving after seeing how tight it fits in there
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Old 10-05-2011, 11:33 AM   #5
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Id def get new header gaskets, Unless your gaskets look like new. Just my .02. Every time my dad and I took something apart from the motor, we always put new gaskets on just for peace of mind
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Old 10-05-2011, 12:26 PM   #6
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New motor mounts (poly) . Mine looked really worn out, car has 115,000 miles on it. It's a lot easier to do with no exhaust in the way.
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Old 10-05-2011, 12:34 PM   #7
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New motor mounts (poly) . Mine looked really worn out, car has 115,000 miles on it. It's a lot easier to do with no exhaust in the way.
I might try to find some used poly mounts, but I don't really have the money to do it right now. my car only has 89K miles on it
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:10 PM   #8
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I got Stage 8 locking bolts, and new GM gaskets. I know you can reuse the stock ones and mine didn't look too bad but I didn't want to risk a leak. Not sure why you want to weld the Y, I don't see an advantage. Clamps work fine on mine.
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I got Stage 8 locking bolts, and new GM gaskets. I know you can reuse the stock ones and mine didn't look too bad but I didn't want to risk a leak. Not sure why you want to weld the Y, I don't see an advantage. Clamps work fine on mine.
cause he puts clamps on upside down so they are practically dragging on the ground
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buy new exhaust gaskets...25 bucks. why risk it leaking and sounding like poo!
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cause he puts clamps on upside down so they are practically dragging on the ground
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:37 PM   #12
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No new gaskets, I don't have 25 bucks.. The guy I'm buying my y from says it needs to be welded for some reason.. I guess I'll find out when I get it next week!

Oh and damage, my clamps are sideways not upside down..
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No new gaskets, I don't have 25 bucks.. The guy I'm buying my y from says it needs to be welded for some reason.. I guess I'll find out when I get it next week!

Oh and damage, my clamps are sideways not upside down..
then wait a week before installing them...wouldnt you be ticked if you had to pull them off in a couple of weeks cause the gaskets leak?

as for your clamps...i just like to pick on ya
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then wait a week before installing them...wouldnt you be ticked if you had to pull them off in a couple of weeks cause the gaskets leak?

as for your clamps...i just like to pick on ya
I've not heard a case of the stock ones failing.. I asked around LS1tech and nobody here has had any personal experience, so I'm probably just going to reuse them .

you may like to pick on me..but my car's louder than yours now and it's gonna be even Louder very soon
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it might be louder (due to leaking gaskets ) but mine is hotter!
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it might be louder (due to leaking gaskets ) but mine is hotter!

LMAO now thats funny
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Old 10-07-2011, 01:03 AM   #17
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it might be louder (due to leaking gaskets ) but mine is hotter!
If you're running hot you might wanna get that checked out, your radiator might explode!
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:05 PM   #18
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use your best judgement, some gaskets that come with headers are crap, if your stock ones are in good enough condition, use those.If you can afford a set of good locking header bolts, get em. Take the worry out of having leaks later on from bolts lossening themselves.Or just use loctite on old ones if they are in good condition (not rounded)
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Reused my stock header gaskets on my 98....twice. Once with the longtubes and once for the turbo manifolds. As long as they aren't ripped/cracked/etc, I'd reuse them.
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In my experience, buy new bolts. If yours are the original ones they are 10mm you will most likely damage the ones towards the firewall trying to get them off. New ones have a 13mm head and are a little tougher. You do not want to break a bolt off in that head.
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In my experience, buy new bolts. If yours are the original ones they are 10mm you will most likely damage the ones towards the firewall trying to get them off. New ones have a 13mm head and are a little tougher. You do not want to break a bolt off in that head.
I ended up using new locking header bolts, Headers went on about a month ago
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