2012 Camaro ZL1 Price Announced at $54,095 MSRP !

[IOM-SS]

Just the facts is all.

First Look: 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 and 2013 Mustang Lineup

Read more: http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...#ixzz1dtYiHyio

[Drake Heminger]

Originally Posted by ZLone

I am/would be too Drake. I have a more expansive post I'll put up. I would rather spend the 2600 on dropping the weight with cool parts then burning it on a TAX that doesn't give anything back.

That would be about $10 a pound to lose 270 lbs (6.x%) of ZL's weight.

very true... luckily i managed to believe it would prior so i saved for it... but doesnt mean im not still mad that it came out to be true ):

[IOM-SS]

Originally Posted by Drake Heminger

very true... luckily i managed to believe it would prior so i saved for it... but doesnt mean im not still mad that it came out to be true ):

imho GM has time to "tweak"the HP before the 2013 Shelby GT500 come out in 2013. Let us all hope for the best.

[Drake Heminger]

Originally Posted by IOM-SS

imho GM has time to "tweak"the HP before the 2013 Shelby GT500 come out in 2013. Let us all hope for the best.

yea it comes out in spring just like the 500... we will see.. i think they will... they have 2 months or so to do it... its very possible

[TLSTWIN]

All this pissing and moaning about the 2013 GT500 having 650HP, well duh, they used a 2300liter SC, the ZL1 is only a 1.9...... easliy fixed by using the LS9, or just the SC off of the motor

[Andy45422]

Can anyone tell me what the standard wheels will be? The black ones we've all seen before? If the shiny aluminum ones are an extra option, what is standard?

In my experience there is a huge difference between Ford HP and Chevy HP. 650 Ford HP?.... meh we will see what really happens.

[Punk_rider]

It's beautiful, it's fast, it 's cheap then .... PRODUCE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fast and enough!!! 2012? looks like we won't get one until 2013 ... sooooo long ... we really have to be diehard fans to wait such a long time ....

[IOM-SS]

Originally Posted by Drake Heminger

yea it comes out in spring just like the 500... we will see.. i think they will... they have 2 months or so to do it... its very possible

Yes, like you I just finished reading the article re Shelby GT500 does come out next spring.

imho the ZL1 parts are in the pipeline? ready to be assembled in a few months. Seems GM might have a logistical problem getting anything else in the supply line to boost the HP on the ZL1.

"The best part about the 2013 Ford Mustang lineup though is that you don't have to wait until the end of next year to see it, as Ford will be rolling it out this coming spring. With an all-new Mustang arriving just in time for its 50th anniversary in 2015, this update will likely be the last we'll see for the current pony".

Read more: http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...#ixzz1dthowvVy

[big boss]

OK! GUYS,ZL1, will be very nice cars,BUT i have too say,those cars wil be at a slitely
disadvantage,with some of the 2010,2011, allready running 600,700,800 hp at rear wheels. SO, do I SPEND 60k OR do I upgread. Thats my question

[JusticePete]

Ford killed the best rear wheel drive vehicle they had world wide in the Ford AU Falcon. A Mustang built on the Falcon platform with a 650 HP motor would have been an incredible automobile, one that would have had GM worried. I am afraid what Ford will release as an all new Mustang will look remarkably like the 68 Mustang and the 2010 Mustang on a two post lift.

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by big boss

SO, do I SPEND 60k OR do I upgread. Thats my question

and the answer is.. it depends on you and what you want.

If you want a full warranty and a lot of power and aren't going to kill said warranty, then get a new one and leave it alone.

Otherwise, mod what you've got... Sure you could sell what you've got, trade it in and get something new with a more purpose built start... but, you have to factor in the cost of your current mods, plus how much you've spent on the car and take in to account the amount you're going to lose in trade-in. That number will tell you how much more cost effective it will be for you.

Also --- try to remember to like what you have because you like it... otherwise, you're going to forever be chasing top dog and end up broke.

[IOM-SS]

Originally Posted by big boss

OK! GUYS,ZL1, will be very nice cars,BUT i have too say,those cars wil be at a slitely
disadvantage,with some of the 2010,2011, allready running 600,700,800 hp at rear wheels. SO, do I SPEND 60k OR do I upgread. Thats my question

Upgrade for me is the answer. I will get the same bang for my buck HP power wise for a lot less money rather than spend $60,000 plus on a ZL1.

[IOM-SS]

Originally Posted by big boss

OK! GUYS,ZL1, will be very nice cars,BUT i have too say,those cars wil be at a slitely
disadvantage,with some of the 2010,2011, allready running 600,700,800 hp at rear wheels. SO, do I SPEND 60k OR do I upgread. Thats my question

Upgrade for me is the answer. I will get the same bang for my buck HP power wise for a lot less money rather than spend $60,000 plus on a ZL1.

The dealer where I have my Camaro serviced will guarantee a Supercharger install for 3 years 30,000 miles.

[htron50]

Originally Posted by TLSTWIN

All this pissing and moaning about the 2013 GT500 having 650HP, well duh, they used a 2300liter SC, the ZL1 is only a 1.9...... easliy fixed by using the LS9, or just the SC off of the motor

Put a 2.3 on the ZL1, and what do you get? Anybody done it on the CTS-V??