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Old 11-23-2011, 12:36 AM   #35
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Originally Posted by 2012camaro2SS/RS View Post
Right now I have everything stock on my 12' Camaro SS suspension wise.

The Camaro has some wheel hop, rear end sway and cornering weaknesses. I used to drive a 09' 335i and it handled a lot better when taking turns above 60mph(mountain fun), going from 0-60 without slipping as much, as well as feeling more in control of the car at higher speeds.
Does a stiffer suspension cause this on the BMW?

What is the best thing I can do for my Camaro Suspension that will
1. Reduce wheel hop when going from 0-60/quarter mile
2. Improve handling and traction when: cornering, slalom type driving and quarter mile?

I am not trying to make this car a stiff and uncomfortable ride(daily driver).

I am open to ANY suggestions and all input

All I know about is Hotckis and PFADT Engineering. But there are a ton of different options that seem to overlap each other in what they do for your car. I am confused and need you all's pro advice.

Please Help!

Getting your 5th Gen to handle like a BMW will take some work, but we should start with the low hanging fruit. The two weakest links in the 5th Gen suspension are the sub-frame and radius bushes. The rear end sway you refer to is rear end step created by the sub-frame twisting within the four rubber mounting bushes. The steering feels a bit soft because of the castor changes allowed by the hydraulically damped radius bushes. Both can be corrected with urethane inserts. The sub-frame inserts will help with your wheel hop. They will have no impact at all on ride quality and will deliver a sure footed feeling.

The next item on the list is your bland alignment from the factory. You can correct a number of the flaws you describe with a slightly more aggressive alignment. Up front, set the cambers to -1 and the toe to ZERO. There is no factory castor adjustment.

In the rear, dial out the camber to -.5 per wheel, half of the front camber. This will make the car more neutral. The rear toe set IN to .10 is good.

A great place to learn about the 5th gen suspension is located here on C5 THE Book on 5th Gen Suspension. With the alignment and inserts you won't believe the difference in your 5th Gen. I am so confident you will find these recommendations to perform to your satisfaction I'll guarantee them with a money back guarantee.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:01 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by VR Baron View Post
Thats what I saw to.Car handles greatl with the new bar, but does anyone yet know if the old setup on the rear will work better or only as good? I like the new endlinks and really want to wait and see if a new bar will be coming out for the 2012's.

Any thoughts on that?
If you're using a 10 or 11 bar on a 12 car it will handle exactly as we intended the package to work. We are in the process of working on a '12 specific sway bar package, but as of right now other really exciting Camaro products have our attention. In the mean time if you own a '12 car you can absolutely run our sway bars, so long as you use a 10 or 11 endlink.
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:30 AM   #37

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Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011 View Post
WOW that was an L99 in that video.
L99CAMA2011 – Good eye! We guess it took an L99 owner to notice.

Unlike some older automatic-transmission ponycars, the L99 makes a great track car and even more so with the upgraded suspension. That was a great day at the MPG track day and a bunch of journalists got to feel the car against a stock 5th-gen Camaro the same afternoon.

Is that your car in your avatar?
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