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Old 01-18-2012, 09:17 AM   #26
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I'm waiting for Top Gear (hopefully UK) to get their hand's on one. I think the Stig will perform miracles with that car the way these mags are talking about it.

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Old 01-18-2012, 10:09 AM   #27
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I wouldn't mind seeing the ZL1 on MOTORWEEK, but TOP GEAR would be awesome! I think as Spring approaches, we'll be seeing much better numbers.
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:18 AM   #28
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I wouldn't mind seeing the ZL1 on MOTORWEEK, but TOP GEAR would be awesome! I think as Spring approaches, we'll be seeing much better numbers.
Or much worse as summer approaches. I bet the aftermarket guys will come up with a way to help keep in IAT cooler!
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:54 AM   #29
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Man this is good stuff! Thanks for the PDF link wilmaya!
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:58 AM   #30
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What issues are these reviews in ??? Anyone know would like to pick up those issues
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:59 AM   #31
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What issues are these reviews in ??? Anyone know would like to pick up those issues
They all read March of 2012, so they must be available now or very soon.

Great reads though.

I am going to wait a year or so to get mine though....
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:07 PM   #32
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The Car and Driver test sheet indicates 720 miles on the odometer. That car will be significantly faster after a few thousand miles are put on it.
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:51 PM   #33
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Scott, you and Team Camaro should be plenty proud to have the patience to build and test this beast. All honor to your Team !!!!!
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:28 PM   #34
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I'm waiting for Top Gear (hopefully UK) to get their hand's on one. I think the Stig will perform miracles with that car the way these mags are talking about it.
I suspect TG US might get it but TG UK won't as the car won't be sold here (according to Chevrolet).

We're still waiting on the SS (the only model we are getting).
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:07 PM   #35
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:07 PM   #36
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yeah what

you gotta love this car, I cant wait to be able to get it. All red with the black stripe baby. Yeah what
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:58 PM   #37
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I dont know if im the first to say it it...

But it would seem that the Camaro ZL1 is...the real boss? ;D aha.

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Old 01-19-2012, 12:18 AM   #38
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Old 01-19-2012, 05:20 PM   #39
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So overall the ZL1 is being well received. That's good news for *Car* lovers everywhere.
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LOVE the product coming out from GM, Ford, and Chrysler. Competition is great, and I'm so excited to see what is around the corner from all our american car companies.
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Did hell freeze over or did MT just say they liked a Camaro better than a Mustang? Granted, they had to put the parting shot about the 2013 Shelby in there to keep the Fordies from going into full cardiac arrest, but still. MT must be tired of Chevy owners cancelling subscriptions. I myself gave up on them after they tested a track-modified Genesis with a stock V6 Camaro and had the balls to say the rice-burner was better with a straight face. Its nice to see them be honest for once.
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:23 PM   #41
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I suspect TG US might get it but TG UK won't as the car won't be sold here (according to Chevrolet).

We're still waiting on the SS (the only model we are getting).

TG UK does enough US-based shows now that I wouldn't be surprised to see them give it a spin. Maybe not with the STIG at Dunsfold, but maybe in one of those road-trip specials they like to do. TG US will probably get one eventually, though with advertising concerns, they're typically not as critical as TG UK is (though Tanner did fairly criticize the Boss 302 in one episode).
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:32 PM   #42
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Temperatures ranged from 34.2°F wet to 46.4°F dry. The ZL1 can do much better, the tires being the limiting factor.
Sucks for times but with those temps the car will be making more hp. There fore the times will suck but the MPH will be better than what will be normal/average. This is if it was at or near sea level.

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117 and 119 trap speed is high 11's all day long...
Atleast mid 11's. With a 1.5 sixty foot my car runs mid 11's @ 117. If this car can get a 1.5 short time @ 119 expect times to be around 11.2-11.5.
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:30 AM   #43
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If this car can get a 1.5 short time @ 119 expect times to be around 11.2-11.5.
Without tuning there is most likely no way it will get a 1.5 60' time. GM will have engineered too much torque management to launch that good.
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Old 01-20-2012, 12:52 PM   #44
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These times scare me a little but with that trap speed it should be mid 11s. I used to do 11.4s with a 1.7 60 ft at 117 mph before my motor change. Now I run low 10s but that trap speed with that 1/4 doesn't make sense to me. Maybe the tires are crap on the ZL1 just like they were on my SS....
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Old 01-20-2012, 01:30 PM   #45
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These times scare me a little but with that trap speed it should be mid 11s. I used to do 11.4s with a 1.7 60 ft at 117 mph before my motor change. Now I run low 10s but that trap speed with that 1/4 doesn't make sense to me. Maybe the tires are crap on the ZL1 just like they were on my SS....
The tires on ZL1 are obviously not tailored directly for the strip. You can't have it both ways. There's no sidewall and some of the reported tests were nowhere near optimized for traction or even power.

Passing judgement this early is really premature.
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Old 01-20-2012, 01:48 PM   #46
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maybe it'll have optional tires like vettes. there performance tires are supposed to be for traction and power. which is why i'm wondering about radz28's comment where tires basically aren't performance not being designed for power or traction, yet vettes come with them as upgrades
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The tires on ZL1 are obviously not tailored directly for the strip. You can't have it both ways. There's no sidewall and some of the reported tests were nowhere near optimized for traction or even power.

Passing judgement this early is really premature.
However it is easy to pass judgement when the times are slower than expected with that much power. Has to be crap tires.....no other explanation. Especially when a CTS V runs pretty much the same times with more weight and less power.
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Sucks for times but with those temps the car will be making more hp. There fore the times will suck but the MPH will be better than what will be normal/average. This is if it was at or near sea level.



Atleast mid 11's. With a 1.5 sixty foot my car runs mid 11's @ 117. If this car can get a 1.5 short time @ 119 expect times to be around 11.2-11.5.

The ZL1 is going to need drag radials to pull that off.
The ZL1 heavy car like the ZL1 with stock rubber pulling those kind of
60' times.
Most owners would will probably be happy just to pull sub 2.0 sec 60' times on the stock rubber with all the power.

But I do understand what your saying. Check my sig, I'm running 12.1 with only 113 mph traps. But I'm running drag radials and pulling 1.77 sec 60' times.
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would like to see the CTS-V vs. the ZL1.
would be interesting to see how much quicker the ZL1 is.
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would like to see the CTS-V vs. the ZL1.
would be interesting to see how much quicker the ZL1 is.
I likey!!! Still that's not the matchup of the decade...
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