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Old 01-18-2012, 03:07 PM   #35
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The water pump for the supercharger's air-to-liquid intercooler is plucked from a less likely donor: that bastion of efficiency, the Volt. No matter how many Volts are ever sold, consider that car's R&D cost justified.
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:07 PM   #36
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yeah what

you gotta love this car, I cant wait to be able to get it. All red with the black stripe baby. Yeah what
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:58 PM   #37
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I dont know if im the first to say it it...

But it would seem that the Camaro ZL1 is...the real boss? ;D aha.

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Old 01-19-2012, 12:18 AM   #38
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Very nice!!!!
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Old 01-19-2012, 05:20 PM   #39
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So overall the ZL1 is being well received. That's good news for *Car* lovers everywhere.
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LOVE the product coming out from GM, Ford, and Chrysler. Competition is great, and I'm so excited to see what is around the corner from all our american car companies.
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:10 PM   #40
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Did hell freeze over or did MT just say they liked a Camaro better than a Mustang? Granted, they had to put the parting shot about the 2013 Shelby in there to keep the Fordies from going into full cardiac arrest, but still. MT must be tired of Chevy owners cancelling subscriptions. I myself gave up on them after they tested a track-modified Genesis with a stock V6 Camaro and had the balls to say the rice-burner was better with a straight face. Its nice to see them be honest for once.
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:23 PM   #41
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I suspect TG US might get it but TG UK won't as the car won't be sold here (according to Chevrolet).

We're still waiting on the SS (the only model we are getting).

TG UK does enough US-based shows now that I wouldn't be surprised to see them give it a spin. Maybe not with the STIG at Dunsfold, but maybe in one of those road-trip specials they like to do. TG US will probably get one eventually, though with advertising concerns, they're typically not as critical as TG UK is (though Tanner did fairly criticize the Boss 302 in one episode).
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:32 PM   #42
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Temperatures ranged from 34.2°F wet to 46.4°F dry. The ZL1 can do much better, the tires being the limiting factor.
Sucks for times but with those temps the car will be making more hp. There fore the times will suck but the MPH will be better than what will be normal/average. This is if it was at or near sea level.

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117 and 119 trap speed is high 11's all day long...
Atleast mid 11's. With a 1.5 sixty foot my car runs mid 11's @ 117. If this car can get a 1.5 short time @ 119 expect times to be around 11.2-11.5.
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:30 AM   #43
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If this car can get a 1.5 short time @ 119 expect times to be around 11.2-11.5.
Without tuning there is most likely no way it will get a 1.5 60' time. GM will have engineered too much torque management to launch that good.
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Old 01-20-2012, 12:52 PM   #44
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These times scare me a little but with that trap speed it should be mid 11s. I used to do 11.4s with a 1.7 60 ft at 117 mph before my motor change. Now I run low 10s but that trap speed with that 1/4 doesn't make sense to me. Maybe the tires are crap on the ZL1 just like they were on my SS....
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Old 01-20-2012, 01:30 PM   #45
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These times scare me a little but with that trap speed it should be mid 11s. I used to do 11.4s with a 1.7 60 ft at 117 mph before my motor change. Now I run low 10s but that trap speed with that 1/4 doesn't make sense to me. Maybe the tires are crap on the ZL1 just like they were on my SS....
The tires on ZL1 are obviously not tailored directly for the strip. You can't have it both ways. There's no sidewall and some of the reported tests were nowhere near optimized for traction or even power.

Passing judgement this early is really premature.
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Old 01-20-2012, 01:48 PM   #46
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maybe it'll have optional tires like vettes. there performance tires are supposed to be for traction and power. which is why i'm wondering about radz28's comment where tires basically aren't performance not being designed for power or traction, yet vettes come with them as upgrades
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The tires on ZL1 are obviously not tailored directly for the strip. You can't have it both ways. There's no sidewall and some of the reported tests were nowhere near optimized for traction or even power.

Passing judgement this early is really premature.
However it is easy to pass judgement when the times are slower than expected with that much power. Has to be crap tires.....no other explanation. Especially when a CTS V runs pretty much the same times with more weight and less power.
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Old 01-20-2012, 03:19 PM   #48
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Sucks for times but with those temps the car will be making more hp. There fore the times will suck but the MPH will be better than what will be normal/average. This is if it was at or near sea level.



Atleast mid 11's. With a 1.5 sixty foot my car runs mid 11's @ 117. If this car can get a 1.5 short time @ 119 expect times to be around 11.2-11.5.

The ZL1 is going to need drag radials to pull that off.
The ZL1 heavy car like the ZL1 with stock rubber pulling those kind of
60' times.
Most owners would will probably be happy just to pull sub 2.0 sec 60' times on the stock rubber with all the power.

But I do understand what your saying. Check my sig, I'm running 12.1 with only 113 mph traps. But I'm running drag radials and pulling 1.77 sec 60' times.
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would like to see the CTS-V vs. the ZL1.
would be interesting to see how much quicker the ZL1 is.
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Old 01-20-2012, 05:05 PM   #50
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would like to see the CTS-V vs. the ZL1.
would be interesting to see how much quicker the ZL1 is.
I likey!!! Still that's not the matchup of the decade...
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:51 PM   #51
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I didn't see which tires the Mustang was running so I'm not sure if the comparison was fair.
However the ZL1 comes with Ultra-High Performance tires (Eagle F1 Supercar G2's) meant for summer. The hotter the environment the better the traction will be. I can't remember where I read this but here it is, these tires are not supposed to be used in temps below 50 degrees and should never be stored at temps less than 20 degrees. Not sure why but I'm guessing that at such a low temp the structure/chem makeup of the tire is altered.

For you SS guys with the Perrelis. Have you noticed that the cooler the pavement the worse your traction is?

Also, this type of tire absolutely sucks at the strip, even on a hot day.

Let the temperature debate begin, LOL!
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