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Old 02-06-2012, 03:20 PM   #51
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Quick question if anybody knows:

The guy said run RPM's to around 2k and drop the clutch and he pulled a 3.8 sec 0-60mph. Does anybody know if he did the "NO LIFT" shift on that run or is that only available when you use LAUNCH CONTROL at the start?
I don't know that it matters in any mode (i.e. I think it applies that feature 100% of the time - manual only, obviously ). I haven't read or heard anything otherwise from GM... Of course - I still have lots' of technical questions I'd like to ask GM if I could

He definately didn't lift :tweetz:
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:23 PM   #52
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A vidio well worth watching , very nice
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:00 PM   #53
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Awesome. Nice driving finally.
I can't wait to see how it respons to mods.
LSA is making what? 8 lbs of boost on the 1900tvs?
DRs, exhaust, intake, tune should be knocking on high 10s.
Even before turning up the boost.
The 2300tvs on the 13gt500 is already at 15 psi correct?
What needs to be considered here is the efficiency of each blower. The 1.9L will have about 6psi without a port to max its efficiency. The 2.3L is about 5psi before it reaches its max. Dont get too wrapped up in boost pressure, it is simply a measurement of restriction.
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:02 PM   #54
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About time you guys get to see the kind of review you deserve. That mid 12 garbage and 13.0 garbage was even making me sick to my stomach, and I'm not even a Camaro guy. I was tired of hearing everyone bash the car for something it hadn't even been given the proper opportunity to do.

I will admit I dislike the fact that they 'correct' numbers, and even even give you a real 0-60 or 1/4 time/trap, but clearly a great driver will have that car into the high 11's 100% stock on a prepped track.

In my own opinion, I'd give it somewhere around 2-3/10ths better than the best GT500 time (which I believe is 12.1 or 12.2)
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:22 PM   #55
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About time you guys get to see the kind of review you deserve. That mid 12 garbage and 13.0 garbage was even making me sick to my stomach, and I'm not even a Camaro guy. I was tired of hearing everyone bash the car for something it hadn't even been given the proper opportunity to do.

I will admit I dislike the fact that they 'correct' numbers, and even even give you a real 0-60 or 1/4 time/trap, but clearly a great driver will have that car into the high 11's 100% stock on a prepped track.

In my own opinion, I'd give it somewhere around 2-3/10ths better than the best GT500 time (which I believe is 12.1 or 12.2)
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:30 PM   #56
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so glad this video finally came out, have been waiting to see this forever
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:19 PM   #57
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Quick question if anybody knows:

The guy said run RPM's to around 2k and drop the clutch and he pulled a 3.8 sec 0-60mph. Does anybody know if he did the "NO LIFT" shift on that run or is that only available when you use LAUNCH CONTROL at the start?
This is the third or fourth time I've seen someone post about the no-lift shift. Is this for sure on the ZL1? I've done a ton of reading about the car,but don't recall anything from GM on the subject.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:30 PM   #58
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290 to each tire sounded a little dorky considering its crank rated!
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:32 PM   #59
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This is the third or fourth time I've seen someone post about the no-lift shift. Is this for sure on the ZL1? I've done a ton of reading about the car,but don't recall anything from GM on the subject.
Yes it has been verified and is in the new manual that was posted the other day. Not sure which thread???
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So is it accurate to say that the ZL1 has yet to break out of the 12's in any magazine/ezine tests to-date?
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It looks like it. Though, this one is certainly more inspiring than any of the other ones I've seen. I'm sure a late fall run on the east coast will yield a significant improvement over GMs numbers, not to mention a time slip that isn't 'corrected'.
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:35 PM   #63
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So is it accurate to say that the ZL1 has yet to break out of the 12's in any magazine/ezine tests to-date?

NO... He said they ran a under 12 sec 1/4 mile


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Old 02-06-2012, 07:36 PM   #64
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NO... He said they ran a under 12 sec 1/4 mile


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Old 02-06-2012, 07:38 PM   #66
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This drives me crazy! Why does everyone say when the 2013 gt500 comes out we will put it up against the ZL1. Like the 2012 gt500 doesn't exist!!!!

I agree this really is about 2012 not 2013. Ford got spanked this year and they all know it, so lets just jump to 2013
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:40 PM   #67
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Great Video, thanks for sharing, looking forward to running the ZL1 the way it was built. Still hard to believe this car is getting numbers that you'd normally invest $100k to reach. Good friend of mine owns a GTR and he's begging me to take the ZL1 for a ride when it's broke in. Given he let me drive his Z06 prior to trading for the GTR I'll have some good data to compare.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:07 PM   #68
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Now this guy knows how to shift! And he didn't hit the rev limitter!!!
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ZL1, has the rear axles, bushings & cooler to handle way hard clutch dumps ..much better ones than the magrag drivers were putting to it. And, lets all agree thats in MOST drivers hands, after a few practices, will be 12.0 runs AVG at the slow point. ADD Dtires. nothing else and you should see 11.6 once you get it set up right. SUB 12.'s easy. Tires = 11.5 knock knock knocking on the door! Maybe 11.4?? Good tree, good air pressure. The ZL1 deserves a "real" track day... with the AUTO and FLUFFY TIRES; Please don't take out the rear seat or install a roll cage. Not needed til it hits 10.5. :respect:

OK my forecast : 2012 ZL1 Auto = 11.5 (w/drag tires on each) Otherwise... all stock components.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:34 PM   #71
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Why does everyone think this car is going to be faster in warm weather? I can tell you from expierance that my 94z28 with 642 rwhp ran allot better in 50 deg weather than it did when in the 70-80 deg temp. Also Supercharged cars do run slower in altitude . Compare Pamona
to Palmdale (L.A.C.R) My z28 would run half a second slower. Also my Lightning ran 13.6@103 at Carlsbad but would only run Low 14s at 2700 ft above sea level.

I can also say that with a good driver i bet the 6 speed is going to beat a auto! Remember what Chevy claimed was stock for a Z06 ? well one guy ran 10s bone stock and another 11.1@129 Ill own a zl1 one day and ill mod it to hell
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Why does everyone think this car is going to be faster in warm weather? I can tell you from expierance that my 94z28 with 642 rwhp ran allot better in 50 deg weather than it did when in the 70-80 deg temp. Also Supercharged cars do run slower in altitude . Compare Pamona
to Palmdale (L.A.C.R) My z28 would run half a second slower. Also my Lightning ran 13.6@103 at Carlsbad but would only run Low 14s at 2700 ft above sea level.

I can also say that with a good driver i bet the 6 speed is going to beat a auto! Remember what Chevy claimed was stock for a Z06 ? well one guy ran 10s bone stock and another 11.1@129 Ill own a zl1 one day and ill mod it to hell
they guy your talking aobut is ranger and that is on drag radials not the F1 supercars that comes stock on the vette. that being said there have been better than the 11.7 magazine times run.

it is the tire compound that comes on these cars. it is different the what you had on your car. So your past experience does not really apply.

if you have never driven on these new max perfromance compounds then you have no idea what happens to the grip at low temps. I got a rude awakening to it on my first vetter I drive them all year round.

they get a tad better with heat but then when you heat them to much grip goes away as well. IT is night and day. somewhere between 60-70 the strait line grip gets really good. 55 and below it just starts to get worse. At the 45 that they did that article at I can't smoke my tires all the way to 90 in second. out of corner I could break grip in 3rd probably. not fun. then you get a nice day I can just hammer second and give it a pretty good flog in first.
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Now....THAT'S the video coverage I had been hoping to see for a little while, now!
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Excellent video! This shows what a true muscle car can do with an experienced driver. I can't wait to get my car
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