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Old 02-07-2012, 03:01 AM   #86
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ZL1, has the rear axles, bushings & cooler to handle way hard clutch dumps ..much better ones than the magrag drivers were putting to it. And, lets all agree thats in MOST drivers hands, after a few practices, will be 12.0 runs AVG at the slow point. ADD Dtires. nothing else and you should see 11.6 once you get it set up right. SUB 12.'s easy. Tires = 11.5 knock knock knocking on the door! Maybe 11.4?? Good tree, good air pressure. The ZL1 deserves a "real" track day... with the AUTO and FLUFFY TIRES; Please don't take out the rear seat or install a roll cage. Not needed til it hits 10.5. :respect:

OK my forecast : 2012 ZL1 Auto = 11.5 (w/drag tires on each) Otherwise... all stock components.

Yes we haven't seen a good vid of the ZL1 on a VHT prepped track with a good 60 foot time which is all important to a good ET. The horsepower is good for mid 11's based on the 118 mph speeds. It all depends on how it gets going off the line to post an 11's run. It will need a 1.65 ish 60 foot to run mid 11's. It seems the all important 60 foot time is never mentioned. A small correction to your post is that the cut off time for a roll bar is 11.49 and cage is 9.99 in NHRA rules.
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:07 AM   #87
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Could the narrator have been more smug? LOL
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Old 02-07-2012, 07:30 AM   #88
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Great video. I projected an 11.78 several months ago. Based on the advertised HP & weight. Looks like that maybe close. Now mod it, and we should see some 10s.
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Old 02-07-2012, 07:37 AM   #89
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FINALLY someone who actually knows how to drive the ZL1. Not this 13 second 1/4 bull shit at the track.....
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:53 AM   #90
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Nice!....sure wish i had one on the way to me,congrats to those of you that are able to buy one,can't wait to see them on the road,here where i work (chev/cad. dealer) we have an ashen grey on the way for the lot,can't wait til it gets here so i can take it for a spin,
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:39 AM   #91
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Actually, he was using Mode 4
i think he did a run and 4 and 5.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:44 AM   #92
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i think he did a run and 4 and 5.
I believe that runs at mode 4 and with PTM turned completely off were performed. It was stated the mode 5 is designed for a VHT prepped track, which Inde did not have.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:52 AM   #93
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This video gave me a sigh of relief, but anyone who owns a Camaro SS knew mid to high 12s were wrong and very slow for a car with these credentials. Most of us guessed about right earlier when we believed sub 12 second runs would be easy. What I don't understand in this thread is why anyone including Ford guys would criticize the video using words like false (post 12)! I would think everyone would celebrate, if only because you're a car guy or gal regardless of the logo on the hood!!
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:53 AM   #94
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I believe that runs at mode 4 and with PTM turned completely off were performed. It was stated the mode 5 is designed for a VHT prepped track, which Inde did not have.
What 'Bear said.

I'm trying to find if there is an "OFF" function for PTM. I believe the Reviewer said that he ran without it, and that he launched just over 2000 RPMs for a faster, but not as consistant time. Maybe he just meant Mode 4...
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:57 AM   #95
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What I don't understand in this thread is why anyone including Ford guys would criticize the video using words like false (post 12)!
Pretty sure that was sarcasm....
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That was a good review. I think the numbers are pretty dang good!

Anyone else notice that it was very quiet in the cabin? I wonder if the in cabin volume edited down.
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:01 AM   #97
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Yessir, ZL1 comes with no-lift shift...awesome feature as I something similar on my trackbike (2006 R6) and it makes up shifting way quicker; no clutch needed on the bike Just keep it pinned and shift away I just watched the video again and he definitely uses the "NO LIFT SHIFT" feature in the 2nd run as you hear the tires chirp when he shifts to 2nd gear...that sound signifies he's powershifting (fortunately GM designed the feature to be used under warranty) & it basically keeps the torque built up in between shifts so you don't lose power. So in the ZL1 you will floor the gas pedal and use the clutch and upshift like normal but keep your right foot down, don't lift! (Hence "NO LIFT" shift)

Google the feature or read some of the ZL1 reviews on this site again in case you missed it!
are you saying that we can't speed shift or "no-lift shift" with the 2010 cars? There is a rev limiter so i assumed it was no problem. I have only had mine a couple weeks and have not been very hard on it yet. Thanks for any help.
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That was a good review. I think the numbers are pretty dang good!

Anyone else notice that it was very quiet in the cabin? I wonder if the in cabin volume edited down.
If you read the review in Road & Track, you'll see CAMARO is quieter than Godzilla Quieter than a supercar? Nice
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:03 AM   #99
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are you saying that we can't speed shift or "no-lift shift" with the 2010 cars? There is a rev limiter so i assumed it was no problem. I have only had mine a couple weeks and have not been very hard on it yet. Thanks for any help.
I think there is something in NLS that is more "gentle" and doesn't completely limit acceleration, like the limiter. That's a question I have, too, though, because I can't find real information from GM on it yet...
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:05 AM   #100
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What 'Bear said.

I'm trying to find if there is an "OFF" function for PTM. I believe the Reviewer said that he ran without it, and that he launched just over 2000 RPMs for a faster, but not as consistant time. Maybe he just meant Mode 4...
ok, sorry for the confusion. I only watched it once. SHould have watched it a couple times before commenting.
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ok, sorry for the confusion. I only watched it once. SHould have watched it a couple times before commenting.
Hey - if I'm wrong, then I want to know, so maybe I missed something
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What 'Bear said.

I'm trying to find if there is an "OFF" function for PTM. I believe the Reviewer said that he ran without it, and that he launched just over 2000 RPMs for a faster, but not as consistant time. Maybe he just meant Mode 4...
Yes radz, I am looking for clarification on that as well...from GM it says...
"Mode 5 – Traction control set on Race, with stability control off and Magnetic Ride Control set on Track. Launch control tuned for VHT-prepped drag strips."

Sooo, I ask what does TC "track" setting mean?, and MRC "track" setting mean exactly? And launch control "tuned" for "VHT" prepped race tracks? Sounds to me like the electronics are still on to some degree limiting and/or monitoring something designed to control some function of the vehicle.
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