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Old 02-07-2012, 10:08 AM   #101
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ok, sorry for the confusion. I only watched it once. SHould have watched it a couple times before commenting.
Hey - if I'm wrong, then I want to know, so maybe I missed something
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:18 AM   #102
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What 'Bear said.

I'm trying to find if there is an "OFF" function for PTM. I believe the Reviewer said that he ran without it, and that he launched just over 2000 RPMs for a faster, but not as consistant time. Maybe he just meant Mode 4...
Yes radz, I am looking for clarification on that as well...from GM it says...
"Mode 5 – Traction control set on Race, with stability control off and Magnetic Ride Control set on Track. Launch control tuned for VHT-prepped drag strips."

Sooo, I ask what does TC "track" setting mean?, and MRC "track" setting mean exactly? And launch control "tuned" for "VHT" prepped race tracks? Sounds to me like the electronics are still on to some degree limiting and/or monitoring something designed to control some function of the vehicle.
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For those that hate Chevy and gm .how many car under 60 run 3.8 0 to 60 and 12 sec 1/4 mile ??
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:25 AM   #104
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For those of us who are server blocked from you tube does anyone know any other sites this video is on?
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:29 AM   #105
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Very impressive! I'm looking forward to the GT500 review they'll do for camparison, it should be interesting.
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Yes radz, I am looking for clarification on that as well...from GM it says...
"Mode 5 – Traction control set on Race, with stability control off and Magnetic Ride Control set on Track. Launch control tuned for VHT-prepped drag strips."

Sooo, I ask what does TC "track" setting mean?, and MRC "track" setting mean exactly? And launch control "tuned" for "VHT" prepped race tracks? Sounds to me like the electronics are still on to some degree limiting and/or monitoring something designed to control some function of the vehicle.
Well - it seems that TC is probably somewhat there, because it has to manipulate power/traction, so there still has to be some intervention. On ZR1 - the MR was softened, too, to allow more weight transfer, but I'm not sure if that's going to be on ZL1, too - I wouldn't see why not...

So many questions, lol. I think you're right, though. I would like to see if everything can be turned off, though, because I've read and heard that Mr. Link's 'Ring run was with everything "OFF", so that leads me to believe that is something we're going to see, too...
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For those that hate Chevy and gm .how many car under 60 run 3.8 0 to 60 and 12 sec 1/4 mile ??
Don't even bother acknowledging these people. Someone who hates something, isn't going to admit or conceed anything even with facts staring right at them.

You'll be wasting your own breath.

As far as that peformance group, I'm certain it's a very small group of Cara compared to the population of factory showroom stock cars out there, but at the same time, it's not supercar territory, and I for one am perfectly fine with that.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:36 AM   #108
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:41 AM   #109
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Well - it seems that TC is probably somewhat there, because it has to manipulate power/traction, so there still has to be some intervention. On ZR1 - the MR was softened, too, to allow more weight transfer, but I'm not sure if that's going to be on ZL1, too - I wouldn't see why not...

So many questions, lol. I think you're right, though. I would like to see if everything can be turned off, though, because I've read and heard that Mr. Link's 'Ring run was with everything "OFF", so that leads me to believe that is something we're going to see, too...
When you initially turn the car on, PTM is off and stability control is on. If you tap the stability control button once (located in front of shifter) you will have turned of stability control, you have now turned off all electronic aides.
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When you initially turn the car on, PTM is off and stability control is on. If you tap the stability control button once (located in front of shifter) you will have turned of stability control, you have now turned off all electronic aides.
I'm not arguing - just confirming , but the car starts with Stability Control, but you have to activate PTM?

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For those that hate Chevy and gm .how many car under 60 run 3.8 0 to 60 and 12 sec 1/4 mile ??
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I'm not arguing - just confirming , but the car starts with Stability Control, but you have to activate PTM?

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No worries, I have read enough of your post to understand you just want all the facts as do I. I had to read for 18 hours straight to understand it, finally found the new manual for the Camaro which includes all the ZL1 functions and it helped explain a lot.
That is correct, upon starting the car, the PTM is off and stability control is on (as a safety feature). You can select the mag ride, sport or tour. Pressing the stability control button one time will disengage the stability control which essentially turns off all electronic aides. Pressing the Sport button twice engages PTM, you can then select which mode of PTM you would like by using the - (tour button) or + (sport button).
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When you initially turn the car on, PTM is off and stability control is on. If you tap the stability control button once (located in front of shifter) you will have turned of stability control, you have now turned off all electronic aides.
Thanks, now a question...so then at this point one would be able to boil the tires off the car and run the motor up to the rev limiter without the electronics taking any power out of the motor? We would be then in the full tilt/balls to the wall mode?
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Thanks, now a question...so then at this point one would be able to boil the tires off the car and run the motor up to the rev limiter without the electronics taking any power out of the motor? We would be then in the full tilt/balls to the wall mode?
You got it, however realize the the rear may be sliding all over the place with stability control disengaged. Traction control is what limits torque/power to the rear.
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I had to read for 18 hours straight to understand it, finally found the new manual for the Camaro which includes all the ZL1 functions and it helped explain a lot.


Where did you find that at and how come it's not a sticky????



Or did I just miss it......
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Yet another question: I believe the reviewer stated that mode 5 is also meant to be used with drag radials. What happens if you're in this mode on stock tires?
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Where did you find that at and how come it's not a sticky????

Or did I just miss it......
Looking for this to add to the FAQ.
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You got it, however realize the the rear may be sliding all over the place with stability control disengaged. Traction control is what limits torque/power to the rear.
Yes that's true, may I note I am an old drag racer who didn't have the luxury of electronic Nannies to watch my derriere...just a Guardian Angel...
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Yet another question: I believe the reviewer stated that mode 5 is also meant to be used with drag radials. What happens if you're in this mode on stock tires?
It might sound like I'm arguing a semantic, but I'm not

I don't think anything will happen. I think they're stance would likely be that you can't expect the maximum benefit from that mode without VHT or DRs. If you're thinking that you shouldn't run in Mode 5 without either of those, I'm only suggesting that those are just not the conditions that mode was designed for and you wouldn't get the maximum benefit from it without those details We didn't see any videos with ZL1 on DRs from the track tests, so, once again - I have more questions than answers.

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Well - it seems that TC is probably somewhat there, because it has to manipulate power/traction, so there still has to be some intervention. On ZR1 - the MR was softened, too, to allow more weight transfer, but I'm not sure if that's going to be on ZL1, too - I wouldn't see why not...

So many questions, lol. I think you're right, though. I would like to see if everything can be turned off, though, because I've read and heard that Mr. Link's 'Ring run was with everything "OFF", so that leads me to believe that is something we're going to see, too...


I wonder then what setting they designed for road course? I thought it was setting 5 but if it softens the suspension for weight transfer then this would not be ideal.
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I wonder then what setting they designed for road course? I thought it was setting 5 but if it softens the suspension for weight transfer then this would not be ideal.
If they do this it would only be during launch mode. Mode 5 would still be the most advanced mode for the road course.
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Where did you find that at and how come it's not a sticky????



Or did I just miss it......
It's on the chevy website now. I told Dragoneye he should put it in his sub-stickies.
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It's on the chevy website now. I told Dragoneye he should put it in his sub-stickies.
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