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Old 02-21-2012, 07:31 PM   #2101
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Are you figuring in any wheel well gap you'll want to get rid of as well? That means lower still.

305/35-20 = 28.4" tall, 10.0-10.5 wheel, don't know what the 30s would be. OEM height 20s is 28.7"
Ya, my wheels now are 28.4 and 28.7 if I remember correctly. But you are right. If I want limited fender gap I'll hve to go a bit lower.

THEN we'll see if it 'Needs Lowering'...........
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:34 PM   #2102
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Ya, my wheels now are 28.4 and 28.7 if I remember correctly. But you are right. If I want limited fender gap I'll hve to go a bit lower.

THEN we'll see if it 'Needs Lowering'...........
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Barametric pressure.... 30
Temperature ...... 30 c
Chance of rain ..... 30%
Humidity ..... 30%
Wind ..... 30 mph

I can't figure it?













i had an altimeter setting of 30.30 while flying today.

and correct me if i'm wrong, but if he went with a little taller tire without changing the ride height, wouldn't that inherently remove some of the gap by having a larger diameter filling the wheel well?

then, if that ain't low enough, he can drop the suspension a bit
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Barametric pressure.... 30
Temperature ...... 30 c
Chance of rain ..... 30%
Humidity ..... 30%
Wind ..... 30 mph

I can't figure it?













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i had an altimeter setting of 30.30 while flying today.

and correct me if i'm wrong, but if he went with a little taller tire without changing the ride height, wouldn't that inherently remove some of the gap by having a larger diameter filling the wheel well?

then, if that ain't low enough, he can drop the suspension a bit
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:38 PM   #2105
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I have 20x9.5 (front) and 20x11 (rear).
My tires are:
Nitto 555-R 305/35-20 (rear)
Nitto Invo 275/40-20 (front)

I wanted my speedometer to read properly on the highway. Also, I really didn't want my car to sit any lower for street driving. I know Pete is trying to help with performance, but my street wheels are a compromise.

I plan to get a set of 16" wheels for drag racing. I'll get back wheels to start with and see if I do a lot of racing. If I do, I'll probably get a pair of 16" skinnies for the fronts.
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I have 20x9.5 (front) and 20x11 (rear).
My tires are:
Nitto 555-R 305/35-20 (rear)
Nitto Invo 275/40-20 (front)

I wanted my speedometer to read properly on the highway. Also, I really didn't want my car to sit any lower for street driving. I know Pete is trying to help with performance, but my street wheels are a compromise.

I plan to get a set of 16" wheels for drag racing. I'll get back wheels to start with and see if I do a lot of racing. If I do, I'll probably get a pair of 16" skinnies for the fronts.
16" wheels over 14+" rotors & calipers? i thought it was a stretch to make 18"s work
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I have 20x9.5 (front) and 20x11 (rear).
My tires are:
Nitto 555-R 305/35-20 (rear)
Nitto Invo 275/40-20 (front)

I wanted my speedometer to read properly on the highway. Also, I really didn't want my car to sit any lower for street driving. I know Pete is trying to help with performance, but my street wheels are a compromise.

I plan to get a set of 16" wheels for drag racing. I'll get back wheels to start with and see if I do a lot of racing. If I do, I'll probably get a pair of 16" skinnies for the fronts.
If I go Forgeline I want 305s in front as well. Mainly because Forgeline can do it.

If I go Vossen then I'll go staggered because they CAN'T do 305s in front.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:38 PM   #2112
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Does Forgeline make 22s?
Hey,

I got a used real MANual transmission if you want it...Like your donk wheels, it doesn't work either.... It'll get you there in most cases... like those wheels on your car... but not the way you would expect...
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:32 PM   #2114
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I just happen to have one of those, low mileage, one owner... 13,000 miles or thereabouts... and a complete precision engineered factory shifter with the housing and know... You will have to locate a clutch pedal though...
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16" wheels over 14+" rotors & calipers? i thought it was a stretch to make 18"s work
I bought a set of V6 brakes for the rear. They'll also have to modify the LCA a bit too.


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If I go Forgeline I want 305s in front as well. Mainly because Forgeline can do it.

If I go Vossen then I'll go staggered because they CAN'T do 305s in front.

Why put such heavy fat wheels up front?
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It started here: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37333 and is not for the strip, but you already knew that
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I just happen to have one of those, low mileage, one owner... 13,000 miles or thereabouts... and a complete precision engineered factory shifter with the housing and know... You will have to locate a clutch pedal though...
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Why put such heavy fat wheels up front?
Handling, stability, control, looks, etc............. Lot's of fun stuff I bought the car for.

Better question is why not? What do you think I lose by having them?

I gain in road MUCH more than I lose in strip.

My car is as powerful as it's going to get. So I'll set it up the best way I can for me. And part of that is to have as much fun with it as I can.

I'd put more power in it for mostly drag racing and set the wheels up strictly for that but having only run down the strip one time I have no business doing that. So I maximize my cars universal fun potential.

I still may get the Vossens though, but it would be more of a save money and still have a nice set-up thing. If Vossen did the same balanced set-up I'd do that.

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Why put such heavy fat wheels up front?
For the twisties!!!
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I just happen to have one of those, low mileage, one owner... 13,000 miles or thereabouts... and a complete precision engineered factory shifter with the housing and know... You will have to locate a clutch pedal though...

I have everything else you need Randy.....

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Ah, if only.

Handling, stability, control, looks, etc............. Lot's of fun stuff I bought the car for.

Better question is why not? What do you think I lose by having them?

I gain in road MUCH more than I lose in strip.

My car is as powerful as it's going to get. So I'll set it up the best way I can for me. And part of that is to have as much fun with it as I can.

I'd put more power in it for mostly drag racing and set the wheels up strictly for that but having only run down the strip one time I have no business doing that. So I maximize my cars universal fun potential.

I still may get the Vossens though, but it would be more of a save money and still have a nice set-up thing. If Vossen did the same balanced set-up I'd do that.

I don't know enough about what is most beneficial as far as tire widths go up front for auto x or road racing. I guess I was asking to find out, not to criticize. I've heard that 20" wheels are a good choice for that (that's why I went for 20s for street driving). They're a good compromise between performance and looks too.

Is a 305 tire recommended for road racing? I would think it would cause the front tire to have less grip (fewer lbs. per square inch) digging into a curve. Although, it would have more contact patch. These things are always a compromise.

Personally, I like the look of a wide tire in the back and a 275 or 285 up front.

Does such a wide tire up front cause any issues during tight turns? I mean, is the wheel going to rub the wheel wells (especially on a lowered car)?

Good luck. I hope you are absolutely 100% happy with your choice of wheels and tires this time. Let's all put the Savini nightmares behind us.
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I recently put 305/30's pirelli neros on my forgelines, rear only. Moved the stock rear tires up front (for now).

First impressions.... Ehhh it doesn't look right at all (I'll post some pics in a bit). My car is about as low as yours and the fender gap is just too big for my tastes.

Tire performance: when it's cold, they suck. Might as well have bald tires. And that's with no Maggie. Warm outside, they hook pretty good, better than stockers. Rain, they are same as stockers.

Having the 275 up front seems to help in the corners. I havent been to a track yet, but my normal test corners I am able to take a little faster.

My 2 cents, if you want the look, go 315/35s.

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I don't know enough about what is most beneficial as far as tire widths go up front for auto x or road racing. I guess I was asking to find out, not to criticize. I've heard that 20" wheels are a good choice for that (that's why I went for 20s for street driving). They're a good compromise between performance and looks too.

Is a 305 tire recommended for road racing? I would think it would cause the front tire to have less grip (fewer lbs. per square inch) digging into a curve. Although, it would have more contact patch. These things are always a compromise.

Personally, I like the look of a wide tire in the back and a 275 or 285 up front.

Does such a wide tire up front cause any issues during tight turns? I mean, is the wheel going to rub the wheel wells (especially on a lowered car)?

Good luck. I hope you are absolutely 100% happy with your choice of wheels and tires this time. Let's all put the Savini nightmares behind us.
This thread is a good explanation of the why...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37333

clearly it is for handling and not necessary for drag racing. but it makes a lot of sense to take advantage of a balanced and square setup.
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