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Old 03-10-2012, 08:00 AM   #76
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I see it starts with a body in white, curious as to who builds it from there.
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Take a look at these Weight Breaks, apply the specific Class...and you'll see 1,000 hp is NOT happenin'...the car would have to weigh a MINIMUM 6,000 POUNDS!


NHRA and IHRA Stock and Super Stock weight breaks
All classes, except where noted, have separate Stick and Automatic Classes. Some classes offer a weight break to the automatic, 5% or 250 pounds, whichever is LESS. Check the Rulebook for your class and sanctioning body.


All cars are pounds per NHRA or factory rated horsepower, unless noted All cars can move weight to go up or down a class from their natural class. Example, a car with a weight break that fits it into F/SA naturally, can also run E/SA and G/SA

NHRA Super Stock (IHRA are the same for these)
SS/AH 6.00 (NHRA, only 1968 Hemi Barracudas and Darts can run this class, and is their only class. Sticks and autos run together)
SS/A 6.00-6.49
SS/B 6.50-6.99
SS/C 7.00-7.49
SS/D 7.50-7.99
SS/E 8.00-8.49
SS/F 8.50-8.99
SS/G 9.00-9.49
SS/H 9.50-9.99
SS/I 10.00-10.99
SS/J 11.00-11.99
SS/K 12.00-12.99
SS/L 13.00-13.99
SS/M 14.00-14.99
SS/N 15.00-15.99
SS/O 16.00-16.99
SS/P 17.00 and more

NHRA SS/GT (IHRA are the same for these)
GT/A 8.00-8.49
GT/B 8.50-8.99
GT/C 9.00-9.49
GT/D 9.50-9.99
GT/E 10.00-10.49
GT/F 10.50-10.99
GT/G 11.00-11.49
GT/H 11.50-11.99
GT/I 12.00-12.49
GT/J 12.50-12.99
GT/K 13.00-13.49
GT/L 13.50-13.99
GT/M 14.00 and more

NHRA GT Truck (IHRA are the same)
Sticks and autos run together
GT/TA 9.50-10.49
GT/TB 10.50-11.49
GT/TC 11.50-12.49
GT/TD 12.50 and more

SS/Modified Stock (IHRA only goes to SS/DS)
Sticks and Autos run together
SS/AS 8.50-9.49 pounds per cid
SS/BS 9.50-10.49
SS/CS 10.50 or more
SS/DS 12 pounds or more; V6 only
SS/ES 15.50 or more, 4 cyl only, max 165 cid
SS/FS 16.50 or more, 155 cid max
SS/GS 18 pounds or more; 4 cly, FWD only, max 230 cid

SS/Modified Truck (IHRA are the same)
Four clases; sticks and autos run together
SS/TA through SS/TD weight breaks mirror SS/AS through SS/DS

Super Stock Modified (IHRA are the same)
Sticks and Autos run together
SS/AM 7.50-8.49 pounds per cid
SS/BM 8.50-9.49
SS/CM 9.50-10.49
SS/DM 10.50-11.49
SS/EM 11.50-12.49
SS/FM 12.50-13.49
SS/GM 10.50 or more pounds; non-supercharged inline 4 or 6 cylinder and straight 8
11.00 or more pounds, non-supercharged American factory controlled V6

Super Stock Modified X (IHRA are the same)
No V8's allowed in SS/MX; sticks and autos together
SS/AX 8.50-10.99 pounds per cid
SS/BX 11.00-12.49
SS/CX 12.50 or more
SS/DX 15.00 pounds or more; two turbochargers or OEM supercharger

NHRA Stock Eliminator (IHRA is the same, except where noted)
AA/S 7.50-7.99 (IHRA is 7.00-7.99)
A/S 8.00-8.49
B/S 8.50-8.99
C/S 9.00-9.49
D/S 9.50-9.99
E/S 10.00-10.49
F/S 10.50-10.99
G/S 11.00-11.49
H/S 11.50-11.99
I/S 12.00-12.49
J/S 12.50-12.99
K/S 13.00-13.49
L/S 13.50-13.99
M/S 14.00-14.49
N/S 14.50-14.99
O/S 15.00-15.99
P/S 16.00-16.00
Q/S 17.00-17.99
R/S 18.00-18.99
T/S 19.00-19.99
U/S 20.00 or more (IHRA 20.00-21.99)
V/S 22.00 or more (NHRA, only 4 and 6 cylinder cars are eligible)
W/S 24.00 or more (NHRA, only 4 cylinder cars are eligible
AF/S 13.00-15.99
BF/S 16.00-17.49
CF/S 17.50-18.99
DF/S 19.00-24.99
EF/S 25.oo or more
(sticks and autos run together; stick shift carries a 100 pound penalty in NHRA FWD Stock)
IHRA Weight breaks, for IHRA-only Classes

Super Stock Production (either a single 4 bbl or single 2 bbl carb is permitted)
SS/PA 7.00-7.49 pounds per cid
SS/PB 7.50-7.99
SS/PC 8.00-8.49
SS/PD 8.50-8.99
SS/PE 9.00-9.49
SS/PF 9.50-9.99
SS/PG 10.00-10.99
SS/PH 11.00-11.99
SS/PI 12.00-12.99
SS/PJ 13.00 or more

SS/Modified Compact
Sticks and autos run together
SS/AC 15.00-16.49 pounds per cid; includes rotary engines
SS/BC16.50 or more
SS/CC 18.50 or more; American production front engine
SS/DC 15.00-17.99; 4 or 6 cylinder FWD
SS/EC 18.00 or more; 4 cyl FWD only
SS/FC 4 cyl, 165 cid or less; 2400 pounds auto, 2500 pounds stick

SS/Fuel Injected Modified
Sticks and Autos run together
SS/AFI 7.50-8.49 pounds per cid
SS/BFI 8.50-9.49
SS/CFI 9.50-10.49

Stock FWD
Sticks and autos have their own classes in IHRA
AF/S 13.00-15.99
BF/S 16.00-16.99
CF/S 17.00-17.99
DF/S 18.00-18.99
EF/S 19.00-19.99
FF/S 20.00-23.49
GF/S 23.50-27.49
HF/S 27.50 or more

Stock FI
AA/FI 7.50-7.99 Only 2008 and newer factory muscle cars are eligible.
A/FI 8.00-8.99
B/FI 9.00-9.99
C/FI 10.00-10.99
DF/I 11.00-11.99
EF/I 12.00-12.99
FF/I 13.00-13.99
G/FI 14.00-14.99
H/FI 15.00-15.99
I/FI 16.00-17.99
J/FI 18.00-19.99
K/FI 20.00-21.99
L/FI 22.00-23.99
M/FI 24.00

Stock Trucks
1980 and newer, 1/2 ton or mini trucks only. Four wheel drive combinations prohibited. Class A and B restricted to all wheel drive. Classes C through J restricted to two wheel drive. Class J restricted to 4 cylinders only. Kind of sounds like two different things--no 4 wheel drives, but the class is restricted to all wheel drive?? It's in the rulebook.
AT/S 12.00-12.99
BT/S 13.00-13.99
CT/S 12.00-12.99
DT/S 13.00-13.99
ET/S 14.00-14.99
FT/S 15.00-15.99
GT/S 16.00-17.99
HT/S 18.00 or more
IT/S 20.00-21.99
JT/S 22.00 or more

Stock GT
1980 and newer cars, with engines from 1955-1979; sticks and auto's run together
S/GTA 8.00-8.99
S/GTB 9.00-9.99
S/GTC 10.00-10.99
S/GTD 11.00-11.99
S/GTE 12.00-12.99
S/GTF 13.00-13.99
S/GTG 14.00 or more

Pure Stock
No supercharged or turbocharged cars permitted; sticks and autos run together
A/PS 8.00-8.99
B/PS 9.00-9.99
C/PS 10.00-10.99
D/PS 11.00-11.99
E/PS 12.00-12.99
F/PS 13.00-13.99
G/PS 14.00-14.99
H/PS 15.00-15.99
I/PS 16.00-16.99

Stock Crate Motor
1955 and newer cars and 1/2 ton trucks; sticks and autos run together
A/CM 6.00-6.49
B/CM 6.50-6.99
C/CM 7.00-7.49
D/CM 7.50-7.99
E/CM 8.00-8.49
F/CM 8.50-8.99
G/CM 9.00-9.49
H/CM 9.50-9.99
I/CM 10.00-10.49
J/CM 10.50-10.99
K/CM 11.00-11.49
L/CM 11.50-11.99
M/CM 12.00-12.49
A/FCM 9.00-9.99
B/FCM 10.00-10.99
C/FCM 11.00-11.99

How cars are classified:
The majority of Super Stock and Stock cars are classified by a horsepower to weight ratio. You divide the shipping weight of the car by the factory, or in some cases, NHRA/IHRA, horsepower.

As an example: Say you want to run a 396 cubic inch, 325 factory horsepower rated engine, with an automatic transmission, in a 1968 Camaro, with a factory shipping weight of 3,253. You divide the weight by the horsepower (3,253 divide by 325), and you will get 10.01. This will put you in the E/SA class, or SS/IA class. All cars are permitted to move up or down one class, so this car is also eligible for D/SA and F/SA in Stock, and SS/HA and SS/JA in Super Stock.

All cars are permitted to adjust weight to do this, and also to make the top of their natural class. To do this, you multiply the top weight break in each class by the HP rating of the engine. You then add 170 pounds, for driver, to arrive at the minimum weight for your car, in each class, that it must cross the scales at. All cars are weighed with driver.

So: E/SA = 10.00 pounds x 325 + 170 = 3,420 pound minimum weight with driver across the scales at the conclusion of the run. To run D/SA (9.5) or F/SA (10.5), you would use the top weight break in each class to determine the weight in that class the same way. From time to time, NHRA/IHRA will adjust the HP of the engine. This will at times adjust the class(es) the car can run. This is based on on-track performance and letters written by racers. Using the example above, if a number of racers using the '68 Camaro396/325 were running very fast, consistently, NHRA may adjust the HP of the engine to a rating of 340. This will change the class(es) the car can run.

So:3,253 divided by 340 = 9.56. Making this car a natural D/SA, that can run C/SA and E/SA in Stock. Minimum weight is still calculated the same, but now you will use 340 instead of 325. It works the same way if NHRA were to reduce the HP rating of the engine. If there were a number of cars running this combination that were not very fast, and sent letters to NHRA requested a HP decrease, it may happen. If NHRA were to decrease the rating of this motor to, say,305: 3,253 pounds divided by 305 = 10.66. This would make the car a natural F/SA, that can run E/SA and G/SA. Again, minimum weight calculation process is the same, except you use 305 instead of 325. NHRA updates their Stock Car Classification Guide (http://www.nhra.com/competition/classification.aspx ) weekly, so be sure to check periodically to see if any adjustments have been made. Only combinations listed in here are eligible for NHRA traditional Stock and Super Stock.

For other classes, such as Super Stock GT, GT Truck, Stock GT, and Crate Motor Stock, you divide the shipping weight of the body you want to use; divided by the performance rating of the engine you want to use, to determine the natural class of the car. From there, minimum weights and eligible classes are determined using the formula above. For Super Stock Modified, SS/Modified Stock, Modified Truck, Modified X, Modified Compact and SS/Production, they are classified by pounds per cubic inch. If your car weighs 2,800 pounds with driver and your engine is 280 cubic inches, your car will fit into the 10 pound class.
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I'm sorry guys, lets just say they make 600hp. Does that make you guys feel better. What's the cobra jet hp rated? It went 8.28 in the fall at Milan dragway. The slowest motor in the COPO went 9.69 with 400 extra pounds to make class weight. If I remember correctly every 100 pounds is a tenth (roughly). If you guys don't want to know what they make, then just say so. I still remember the first time I mentioned the COPO, you guys explained to me that if it existed you would know. Well, obviosly you guys don't know all. And I can promise you I know a whole lot more about this car than 99.9% of everybody on this forum. The last guy who called me out ended up PM me saying I was right, NO SH#T, I already knew that.
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Could it make 1,000 hp? Yes

As a Class-legal AA/Stock, will it? No.

Delivered from GM Performance, will it make 1,000 hp, in any version? No.

Will they make 900 hp? No.

Could they? Yes...

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I need this for a daily driver. It would help reduce my commute time.
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Submitted HP numbers to NHRA:

427 = 425 hp
327/2.9 = 500
327/4.0 = 550

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Old 03-10-2012, 10:28 PM   #85
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I'm guessing these are RWHP??
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Well it looks nice but so does my car and my car makes more RWHP and is built at a lot less the cost!! This is just a money grabber, no orginality at all, just another limited edition that the regular 9-5 working stiff can only dream of!! Il take my 677RWHP for only 26K any day!!! Jay Leno and all the other money mongrals can have the COPO CRAP, ill stick with my custom built with some originality and pride any day!! Way to sell out Chevy not Impressed one bit
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Could it make 1,000 hp? Yes

As a Class-legal AA/Stock, will it? No.

Delivered from GM Performance, will it make 1,000 hp, in any version? No.

Will they make 900 hp? No.

Could they? Yes...

Splitting hairs is a very fine art...
with a fully forged ls7 , built for boost with a 4.0 whipple, not only is 1000hp attainable, but easily surpased...i hit 800hp + with a ls3 and a kb sc with 3 3/4 pulley and mild cam on stock bottom end...on 93 octane...i assume these untitled cars are built for 110 octane and above...if internals could hold it and ls3 was lower compression , i could go from 9lbs boost into 17-18 easily and hit 900 with no effort...can,t imagine a whipple 4.0 with 20 lbs boost dialed in with 115 octane not hitting 1000hp or better...we are not talking rwhp..hell the zl1 street version warranty car has 580hp with a tiny 1.9 eaton, which is clearly nothing like a 4.0 whipple..and has to drive on 93 octane , not racing fuel like the copo
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Well it looks nice but so does my car and my car makes more RWHP and is built at a lot less the cost!! This is just a money grabber, no orginality at all, just another limited edition that the regular 9-5 working stiff can only dream of!! Il take my 677RWHP for only 26K any day!!! Jay Leno and all the other money mongrals can have the COPO CRAP, ill stick with my custom built with some originality and pride any day!! Way to sell out Chevy not Impressed one bit
I guess I dont get how this makes the General a sellout???!! They picked 69 people at random who were interested in the cars. The price is marked correctly to the Drag Pack Challenger and Cobra Jet. Not only is it marketed correctly if you were to follow inflation prices from 1969 Base SS vs 1969 COPO this car is right in line.

Thats great your home built car makes 600+Rwhp (<--- You can thank GM for sticking to a well thought out powerplant since 97 for this). Now how many Mid 9 second passes have you made in it?? Can your car fall into the guidelines of NHRA Stock Eliminator??

GM produced a car that the public wanted!! Ask the Thousands who filled out the surveys and drooled @ the SEMA show. If you cant afford it so be it, take a seat in the grand stands, watch some good racing, and support the home team!
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I guess I dont get how this makes the General a sellout???!! They picked 69 people at random who were interested in the cars. The price is marked correctly to the Drag Pack Challenger and Cobra Jet. Not only is it marketed correctly if you were to follow inflation prices from 1969 Base SS vs 1969 COPO this car is right in line.

Thats great your home built car makes 600+Rwhp (<--- You can thank GM for sticking to a well thought out powerplant since 97 for this). Now how many Mid 9 second passes have you made in it?? Can your car fall into the guidelines of NHRA Stock Eliminator??

GM produced a car that the public wanted!! Ask the Thousands who filled out the surveys and drooled @ the SEMA show. If you cant afford it so be it, take a seat in the grand stands, watch some good racing, and support the home team!
Amen to that. Some people just don't get it.

Seriously people? "Money grabbers"...."Chevy's just trying to cash in"..."too rich for my blood"...."a get rich scheme for GM"..."crazy, crazy pricing" ???

Maybe people should have to pass a test to be able to post on this particular thread. A test to qualify one's knowledge on the tradition and history of special production cars built specifically to compete within the rules of specific sanctioning race organizations.

Second, you must have rudimentary and basic understanding of the factors that determine manufacturing costs of an automobile.

Finally, to post in this thread, you must be happy with your lot in life and you can't feel that you are the poor oppressed masses being exploited by big government, capitalists and the bourgeois.

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LOL @ 1100 hp Stock Eliminator car...
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I'm done. Wait and see and then you can say I was right. It works for me everytime.
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I'm done. Wait and see and then you can say I was right. It works for me everytime.
We're not doubting these engines can make 1100 hp. We're just saying theyre strict guidlines and rules to each and every class. These classes are pretty much dictated by power to weight ratio to make things as fair as possible. As far as i know there isnt a class in stock eliminator that would allow for a 1100hp 3k lb car...
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Very helpful info... http://www.dragzine.com/features/und...ck-eliminator/

All cars are classified by using the factory shipping weight, divided by either advertised factory horsepower, or NHRA-rated HP.* I will use my car as an example, a 1992 Oldsmobile Toronado Trofeo.* It has a factory shipping weight of 3,444 pounds, and a factory horsepower rating of 170.* 3,444/170 = 20.56.* This will classify me into the DF/S (D Front wheel drive/Stock) class.* All cars are classified this way, into one of 51 classes of Stock Eliminator.* Classes run from AA/S and AA/SA (AA/Stock and AA/Stock Automatic) down to W/S and W/SA for rear wheel drive cars and trucks, plus five front wheel drive classes AF/S to EF/S.

AA/Stock would be for the highest factory rated horsepower cars.* Some Mopar Hemis, 440&prime;s and Max Wedges, big block 427 Fords, 427 and 396 Chevrolets, as well as some newer cars – LS-1 Firebirds, supercharged Cobra Jet Mustangs and the new DragPack Hemi Dodge Challengers are in this category.* Cars with a shipping weight/horsepower ratio of 7.50-7.99 pounds will fall into AA/S.* W/S is for four cylinder cars only, with a weight to horsepower ratio of 24 or more.* NHRA publishes their Classification Guide on their website;* you can look up your car to see what class it can fit.* Cars not listed in this Guide are not eligible for Stock Eliminator.

So the cobra jet and drag paks are in the 7.5-7.99 class. A 1100hp copo is at 2.8. No such class for this, not even close.
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I understand some of you can read the rule book. But just to put things into perspective where 550hp would put you in ET's.



^ This is my race engine, Its a 6.0L 11.0:1 SCR LQ9, Trickflow heads, 240/244 .613 .598 109LSA cam, Stepped Longtubes, Vic Jr, JW Performance Flexplate, ARP bolts through out motor.


^ It calls this car home! 9" Rear end 33 spline axles, 4.56 gears, Powerglide, 4300-4500stall. 2980lb Race weight!

We are hoping to run 10.20-10.60 on a good day!!! Best this car has 60' is a 1.4x The previous motor was a High compression 406SBC making around 425bhp. Best it ran was a 11.52 @ 113mph.

Soooo with the COPO's first pass out on the supposed 500hp motor running mid 9's with little effort id guess you could wipe your rear with that rule book!! I doubt the Super Cobra Jets running mid 8s are only 550hp either!


For those that read the rule book. We compete in PRO and Street Legal Summit Racing NHRA classes. Just a 2step and a Transbrake
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same motor setup I have but a much smaller cam shaft, FAST intake and Fuel injected. Through a manual
On the FEARED Mustang dyno, for those that worry about Dyno Numbers
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A couple of things. Has anybody seen the bore and stroke specs on this "327"? If its the same as the 5.3 in the in the trucks, its actually a 325. I know it's ony 2 cubes, but I'm a stickler for details. I always made fun of Ford for calling their 4.9 a 5.0, so now I hope I dont have to make fun of GM for calling their 325 a 327.
And, am I the only one who noticed the significance of that 20129562 PN? 2012 is the model year and 9562 is the next COPO# following 9560 and 9561. 9560 was the the number used on the ZL1 69 Camaros and 9561 was the number used on the L72 69 Camaros. So I guess we can call these COPO 9562. I'm aware that COPO 9562 was used on L72 Chevelles in 1969, but these are the first COPO 9562 Camaros. Now I'm thinking......What would happen if I went to a dealer and ordered PN 19699560?.....Do you think I'd get one of those 69, 1969 ZL1's......Nah...I doubt it, but it's fun to think I might!

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We're not doubting these engines can make 1100 hp. We're just saying theyre strict guidlines and rules to each and every class. These classes are pretty much dictated by power to weight ratio to make things as fair as possible. As far as i know there isnt a class in stock eliminator that would allow for a 1100hp 3k lb car...
Trust me, I understand. I have known about the car and the engines for a year now. I have drag raced for 20 years and had a bad #ss Super Stocker. Anybody who class races know there is the horsepower factor in the NHRA and then theres the real hp. I thought you guys would like to know what these are making, if you don't that's fine with me.
And your right, there is no 1100 hp class, I never said that, but there will be super stockers making it. I promise you that.
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That radio looks completely out of place in that interior IMO...
It's very minimal everywhere else and (for obvious reasons) geared toward track. So why put a fancy modern style radio in? Just my .02
Other than that I like it, though I definitely could not afford it.
That was the first thing I noticed. Weird seeing a radio.
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