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Old 12-04-2011, 08:05 PM   #1
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recommendations with my budget

budget is about 1500-2k. with a shop install

i 100% for want springs. the car is not a daily driver but is driven on Michigan roads which are bad. i don't mine the rough ride, but do not want drag setup.
my question is
would front/rear sways be a good thing with the springs ? i see so many other options like Trailing Arms also ?

thanks for help

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Old 12-04-2011, 09:30 PM   #2
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You can get the Pedders Street 2 kit, add the sways to it, and you'd be about 1600, Install would put you over your budget, but not by much

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Old 12-05-2011, 12:00 AM   #3
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Springs and sways can easily be done in your garage. If you can't do the install, the Pfadt stage II is $600 and a decent shop should be able to install them in about 4hrs shop time. As Pete posted, the bushings are a great addition but it adds quite a bit to the install price.
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:45 AM   #4
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Springs and sways can easily be done in your garage. If you can't do the install, the Pfadt stage II is $600 and a decent shop should be able to install them in about 4hrs shop time. As Pete posted, the bushings are a great addition but it adds quite a bit to the install price.
ya thats what i was thinking. the bushing were not really in the question because of install.
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:49 AM   #5
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You can get the Pedders Street 2 kit, add the sways to it, and you'd be about 1600, Install would put you over your budget, but not by much

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thanks for info, what about just running sways plus springs?
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:20 PM   #6
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budget is about 1500-2k. with a shop install

i 100% for want springs. the car is not a daily driver but is driven on Michigan roads which are bad. i don't mine the rough ride, but do not want drag setup.
my question is
would front/rear sways be a good thing with the springs ? i see so many other options like Trailing Arms also ?

thanks for help
We can get you this set up for less than your budget.

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Old 12-05-2011, 04:08 PM   #7
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For a daily driver with an aggressive stance and improved handling you should look at our Stage 2 package. Solidly in your budget, and offers a great balance. There is no better way to make your Camaro feel like it's dropped 400 pounds than installing one of our Sway bar packages. Bushings may not be absolutely necessary as you will love the improved handling after our Stage2 package.

Take a look at the video we made demonstrating the performance before and after the install. You can see the car moves from it's natural tendency to understeer to much more neutral... this transition makes the car much more fun to drive in all conditions!

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Old 12-05-2011, 05:56 PM   #8
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thanks for info, what about just running sways plus springs?
it's doable, the Street 2 kit is discounted by 13% over the parts individually, so you save a bit doing them as a package.

The bushings will tighten up the feel of the car, if you want PM me and maybe i can work out a custom kit that might meet your needs better.
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Get a good set of coilovers. Go from there.
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:48 PM   #10
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Coilovers would be your best, get sways later in my opinion
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:28 AM   #11
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Coilovers would be your best, get sways later in my opinion
I think you have that backwards. Sways are the bigger bang for better handling.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:32 AM   #12
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i'd have to disagree, for most the lowering of the COG along with the higher rates of the springs and the damping will be a bigger improvement over just sways, since most will not achieve the level of cornering to have the sways be a larger advantage.

Both are good though i would be likely to put the sub frame bushings high up on the list too.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:10 AM   #13
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There is a vendor on here selling Toe rod's and end links for $395 shipped to your door. You can pick up a set of springs and sway's for $500. Install time should be about 4 hours for all of it (@ $80 per hour = $320) You are looking at $1215 total.

I have one of Eibach's first kits for the Camaro and the ride is fairly stiff. If you are wanting a soft ride, you need to look at Coil Overs, not springs where most are for a cosmetic drop and not a softer ride. Plus, with drop springs, your keeping your factory struts in place and they are not working as intended anymore.

I'm upgrading to Coil Overs as soon as it makes sense from a $$$ standpoint. I've got $15k in go fast goodies to add first.

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You are near one of the Best Chevrolet Dealers in the Country that are also Pedders Specialists Rodgers Chevrolet. Becky supports C5 and is THE person to see for a new or used Camaro. Gerry is the Service Director and LOVES doing special Camaro projects, especially Pedders.

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As far as quality, you can't do any better than Pedders. Don't take my word for it. Look at what Chevrolet did at SEMA this year. They had 22 cars in the Chevy 100the Year SEMA Celebration. 17 of those were on Pedders. I have a deal with GM. I buy GM cars. GM buys Pedders parts. Chevrolet showed 5 Camaros. two were on MRC and three were on Pedders. If you have seen a Camaro Pace Car on track at an INDY or NASCAR race you were watching a production Pace Car on Pedders suspension. Just like SEMA all those Pace cars were on Pedders parts GM purchased. The same is true for the Leno Camaro, Dale Jr's....

Contact Becky and talk to her about her Camaro Pace Car on a Pedders GMPP Pace Car Pedders Package. It is a bit higher than your budget, but the value is incredible. Becky is awesome. Tell her you would like first hand experience with a Pedderised Camaro. She has two of them. One on lowering coils and one on a Pace Car Package. One test drive will be all you need to determine which works best for you.

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Hey are you offering test drives in my cars??

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Old 12-07-2011, 03:49 PM   #16
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with drop springs, your keeping your factory struts in place and they are not working as intended anymore.


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would this be a problem down the road ? but as far ride feel. i personally feel the camaro is to soft for a performance car. out of factory.
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Drop springs definitely do put your shocks in a different part of their travel than originally intended from the factory. That being said they're not using parts of the travel that aren't intended for use. So long as the springs you select don't drop the vehicle too far, or have too aggressive of a spring rate you're good to go. For ultimate comfort coilovers really are the way to go because you can tailor them to your tastes, but if you don't mind a little more sporty ride quality and your budget doesn't allow for coilovers yet drop springs are still a great way to go.

Our Pfadt Racing Drop Spring kits were designed with use on the factory shocks. Dropping the car 1.25" they don't drop the car too far and the spring rates were selected specifically to keep the stock shocks happy.
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I went with Pedders Xa coilovers as my first and only suspension mod. The car handles great, as Pete mentioned the lower center of gravity, spring rates, and adjustable height and dampening have been more than enough for me. After 2 years Im just now looking to add sway bars.
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You can get our entire Level 2 Handling Package for less than half of your budget which allows plenty left over for installation costs. It comes with our popular lowering springs and adjustable tubular sway bars as well as every bushing we make for your car. This is by far the best bang for your buck option.

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A cheap alternative for sway bars are to convert to the ZL1 sways, LCAs, and endlinks. This in addition to springs and bushings would leave you with a nice handling ride. I just priced the ZL1 parts and everything is less than a set of aftermarket sways.
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You are near one of the Best Chevrolet Dealers in the Country that are also Pedders Specialists Rodgers Chevrolet. Becky supports C5 and is THE person to see for a new or used Camaro. Gerry is the Service Director and LOVES doing special Camaro projects, especially Pedders.

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