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Callaway Chris · 02-18-2012, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WS580

Callaway Chris Thanks for the info u guys build a sweet car...Is there any other tuning that could be done on the SC572 AND still keep the warranty...can u guys make a package that is priced close to the ZL1..?

You are welcome!

At the present time, our SC572 package is not offered with any addl. tuning to keep the powertrain warranty in effect, sorry. But trust me, it's seriously fast, and with perfect drivability, too!

Re: the new ZL1, it is an amazing car and a great price point! That said, we continue to sell our SC572 Callaway Camaros to those seeking style, power, and exclusivity, bundled into a package and backed with our peerless powertrain warranty - out support is second to none!

I look forward to your impressions after driving one of our Powerfully Engineered Camaros

More @ www.callawaycars.com

SlowSS · 02-18-2012, 07:53 PM

My vote is for the Callaway. Although I do really like the ZL1 there is just something about the Callaway. BTW the orange one pictured is currently for sale on here!

WS580 · 02-19-2012, 09:31 AM

Thats 1vote for Callaway......Callaway Chris Ive driven the Vette 606 & Camaro 572 the vette is crazy...the camaro is fast also but my point is that after a year or two u want to hav option to up grade the car with mor HP cuz as u see the cars keep getting mor and more Hp...just a tho may be a 650hp camaro hint hint..lol...Thanks for all ur info

eolson · 02-19-2012, 01:36 PM

The aftermarket will easily provide a simple pulley and tune upgrade for the ZL1 on top of it's current 580HP 2012 release, as well as GM upping the HP next year any way.

There is no comparison to the ZL1's progressive engineering in handling currently, and it's breaks are fantastic stock, so I don't see the purpose of the thread question other than an individual values having a unique but over priced, under performing Saleen like parallel in a Camaro. Erik

chd1 · 02-19-2012, 01:43 PM

i gotta go with Callaway by far the best and leave the others in the dust.. looks speed everything,

midnighter · 02-19-2012, 07:32 PM

How about a ZL1 done by Callaway and a winning Lotto ticket to afford it?.

Trevorw24 · 02-19-2012, 09:33 PM

Those Callaways are sick! Plus it's more exclusive!

hognutz · 02-19-2012, 11:06 PM

yeah they are so exclusive I could have one tomorrow and I can't even get my ZL-1 ha ha.

honestly last year I considered one but this year I can't fathom buying one over a ZL-1. mag ride, stronger tranny, dual disc clutch, stronger rear diff, etc, etc.

IOMZL1 · 02-20-2012, 07:37 AM

Maybe I’m a minority but I can’t get on board with the look of any of the Callaway cars that have ever been made. I’m sure the engineering is superb, but I have always preferred the stock look to anything Callaway has done.

As for Callaway vs. ZL1… if you want to go fast in a straight line but don’t care that much about road course handling, prefer the look of the Callaway, want something more exclusive, and money is no object go for the Callaway. Otherwise IMO it is ZL1 no contest.

SLP, Callaway, Berger… all of these guys will need to step it up to compete with the price and performance of the ZL1 or start modifying ZL1s. That, or they will just rely on the exclusivity and look of their cars to continue selling them.

WS580 · 03-20-2012, 10:29 AM

Could't wait for the ZL1....got the callaway...mor pics to come

dirishboy · 03-20-2012, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WS580

Could't wait for the ZL1....got the callaway...mor pics to come

Wow! Congrats

*radz28* · 03-20-2012, 11:04 AM

While I've always liked Callaway cars, a full 1/3 of SS was upgraded to ZL1. You can do a lot of that with the aftermarket, but the aftermarket can't duplicate the speed of EPS and MR. You can CERTAINLY get a car that will outperform ZL1 (many here have!!! - FOR LESS!!!), but whether those cars are as usable, and dare I say safe, as ZL1? That remains to be seen, as of yet. The electronic suite in ZL1 is unmatched, even superior to CTS-V AND Corvette. You have what sounds like a near-bomb-proof differential, upgraded tranny, shortblock, driveline, and a complete effective aerodynamics package, not to mention all the coolers you're going to need. ZL1 is a totaly package. If that matters, and having the adjustability at a button means something to you, then perhaps ZL1 might have a little edge. However - if you like tinkering, and don't mind swinging spanners and clicking some knobs - an upgraded SS will certainly outperform ZL1 and make you feel just as special - especially in a Callaway.

IMVHO - the Callaway will be more special in the end. It's your money and you can't go wrong as long as you're happy

EDIT: CONGRATS'!!! I know you're going to be one happy camper

Callaway Chris · 03-22-2012, 08:28 PM

Looks great - esp the hood!

Blueclyde · 03-22-2012, 10:23 PM

Very nice. Looks awesome. Congrats!

Scarrzz · 03-23-2012, 01:09 AM

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ZL1 FTW !!!

THAT IS ALL !

Deki · 03-23-2012, 01:52 AM

No offense, but the Callaways just look like regular SS Camaros with a hood and maybe a lower splitter. I'd go for the ZL1.

CAM....ZL1 · 03-23-2012, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deki

No offense, but the Callaways just look like regular SS Camaros with a hood and maybe a lower splitter. I'd go for the ZL1.

+1

WS580 · 03-26-2012, 06:35 PM

I lik the ZL1 also but just had to hav some hp and as the time ticked away the callaway looked better an better...I trade my 45th with 285miles on it the car was nice but it just didt hav that punch....Still want a ZL tho...

Does anyone know what the rwhp is on the Callaway?

REVENGE · 03-26-2012, 07:01 PM

The Callaway looks too much like a stock Camaro.

OVRKLL · 03-27-2012, 12:04 AM

The Callaway looks great no doubt, not to mention the hp that comes with it.

However, for ME, I want zee whole package that comes with the ZL1 where everything was built with each component in mind from diff to electronics...they compliment each other.
With that said, if I can't get a Zl1 I wouldn't turn down a Callaway should one come my way.

It is a Great alternative!

WS580 · 03-27-2012, 05:42 AM

Ovrkll very well Put i agree at this point and time the callaway plays the part its not just ur avg camaro people look at the car and go whats that.. so with that being said u dont see callaways at every stop light.

Blueclyde · 03-27-2012, 05:50 AM

What packages are on your Callaway? I would speculate you would see somewhere around 490-500 rwhp.

Inferno Orange 2SS-RS · 03-27-2012, 12:51 PM

I would get the ZL1.

lbls1 · 03-27-2012, 05:57 PM

We need to encourage the aftermarket camaros to compete along with the zl1; That way we can keep the mustang and its aftermarket versions covered!

kbar4782 · 03-27-2012, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deki

No offense, but the Callaways just look like regular SS Camaros with a hood and maybe a lower splitter. I'd go for the ZL1.

+1

02-18-2012, 07:53 PM	#27
SlowSS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Commerce, GA Posts: 3,200	My vote is for the Callaway. Although I do really like the ZL1 there is just something about the Callaway. BTW the orange one pictured is currently for sale on here! __________________ My Build Thread!

02-19-2012, 09:31 AM	#28
WS580 wseditions Drives: 12 Callaway SC572,11 Tahoe LT,09Ram Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: CT Posts: 76	Thats 1vote for Callaway......Callaway Chris Ive driven the Vette 606 & Camaro 572 the vette is crazy...the camaro is fast also but my point is that after a year or two u want to hav option to up grade the car with mor HP cuz as u see the cars keep getting mor and more Hp...just a tho may be a 650hp camaro hint hint..lol...Thanks for all ur info Last edited by WS580; 02-19-2012 at 03:36 PM.

02-19-2012, 01:36 PM	#29
eolson eolson Drives: 2006 premium Package Mustang GT cou Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Northville, MI Posts: 249	The aftermarket will easily provide a simple pulley and tune upgrade for the ZL1 on top of it's current 580HP 2012 release, as well as GM upping the HP next year any way. There is no comparison to the ZL1's progressive engineering in handling currently, and it's breaks are fantastic stock, so I don't see the purpose of the thread question other than an individual values having a unique but over priced, under performing Saleen like parallel in a Camaro. Erik __________________ 2006 Prem Pkg Mustang GT coupe. Saleen SC,10psi, 454rwhp,442rwtq, Complete Steeda/H&R, suspension change out, with weight loss, Techco Watts link, Stoptech big brakes, Race clutch, Alum. flywheel, Alum 1 pc driveshaft, 9x18,10x18 chrome bullit wheels, 285/40/18,255/45/18 nitto 555 tires. 3545 lbs currently. New car scent air freshener.

02-19-2012, 07:32 PM	#31
midnighter Drives: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS 6M Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: CA Posts: 18,185	How about a ZL1 done by Callaway and a winning Lotto ticket to afford it?. __________________

02-19-2012, 09:33 PM	#32
Trevorw24 Black Ma6ic Drives: 2011 Camaro LS M6 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,476	Those Callaways are sick! Plus it's more exclusive! __________________ DT Headers l MRT v2 l Injen SRI l Hurst STS l Resonators Delete l Lowered 1.25'' l 35% Tint l Black Bowties l Tinted Tail Lights l AAC lighting l Debadged

02-19-2012, 01:43 PM	#30
chd1 Drives: 68rs/69z28/2010 2SSRS-callaway Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: silver spring md. Posts: 305 View My Garage	i gotta go with Callaway by far the best and leave the others in the dust.. looks speed everything,

02-19-2012, 11:06 PM	#33
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 1,896	yeah they are so exclusive I could have one tomorrow and I can't even get my ZL-1 ha ha. honestly last year I considered one but this year I can't fathom buying one over a ZL-1. mag ride, stronger tranny, dual disc clutch, stronger rear diff, etc, etc. __________________ 2013 ZL1 2013 Dart 2004.5 Ram cummins

02-20-2012, 07:37 AM	#34
IOMZL1 Drives: 1991 Z28; 2008 SRT 10 Viper Coupe Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 901	Maybe I’m a minority but I can’t get on board with the look of any of the Callaway cars that have ever been made. I’m sure the engineering is superb, but I have always preferred the stock look to anything Callaway has done. As for Callaway vs. ZL1… if you want to go fast in a straight line but don’t care that much about road course handling, prefer the look of the Callaway, want something more exclusive, and money is no object go for the Callaway. Otherwise IMO it is ZL1 no contest. SLP, Callaway, Berger… all of these guys will need to step it up to compete with the price and performance of the ZL1 or start modifying ZL1s. That, or they will just rely on the exclusivity and look of their cars to continue selling them. __________________ Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand. Ignorance, prejudice, and fear walk hand in hand... http://dougshelbyengineering.com/Viper.html

03-20-2012, 10:29 AM	#35
WS580 wseditions Drives: 12 Callaway SC572,11 Tahoe LT,09Ram Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: CT Posts: 76	Could't wait for the ZL1....got the callaway...mor pics to come Attached Images

03-20-2012, 11:04 AM	#37
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crapramento, Crapifornia Posts: 12,949 View My Garage	While I've always liked Callaway cars, a full 1/3 of SS was upgraded to ZL1. You can do a lot of that with the aftermarket, but the aftermarket can't duplicate the speed of EPS and MR. You can CERTAINLY get a car that will outperform ZL1 (many here have!!! - FOR LESS!!!), but whether those cars are as usable, and dare I say safe, as ZL1? That remains to be seen, as of yet. The electronic suite in ZL1 is unmatched, even superior to CTS-V AND Corvette. You have what sounds like a near-bomb-proof differential, upgraded tranny, shortblock, driveline, and a complete effective aerodynamics package, not to mention all the coolers you're going to need. ZL1 is a totaly package. If that matters, and having the adjustability at a button means something to you, then perhaps ZL1 might have a little edge. However - if you like tinkering, and don't mind swinging spanners and clicking some knobs - an upgraded SS will certainly outperform ZL1 and make you feel just as special - especially in a Callaway. IMVHO - the Callaway will be more special in the end. It's your money and you can't go wrong as long as you're happy EDIT: CONGRATS'!!! I know you're going to be one happy camper __________________ "...What IS true: We anticipated that this would happen - we are never finished - and yes, Ford DOES deserve to win now and then. To think that GM can come out with a car to make ford throw in the towel is simply foolhardy..." - fbodfather

03-22-2012, 08:28 PM	#38
Callaway Chris Drives: 2010 Callaway SC606 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Old Lyme, CT Posts: 601	Looks great - esp the hood!

03-22-2012, 10:23 PM	#39
Blueclyde Drives: 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northeast Metro Detroit Posts: 1,090	Very nice. Looks awesome. Congrats! __________________ 2012 ZL1, GBA, M6, ECF, Black 10 Spokes

03-23-2012, 01:09 AM	#40
Scarrzz Do Ya like my taillights? Drives: Suzuki Hayabusa Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Louisiana, CO, GA, TX, etc. Posts: 1,801 View My Garage	. ZL1 FTW !!! THAT IS ALL ! __________________ . __________________________________ ................................................The Faithful are Watching.

03-23-2012, 01:52 AM	#41
Deki Drives: 2011 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,238 View My Garage	No offense, but the Callaways just look like regular SS Camaros with a hood and maybe a lower splitter. I'd go for the ZL1. __________________ 2011 GT Premium//Performance White...a little modded

03-26-2012, 06:35 PM	#43
WS580 wseditions Drives: 12 Callaway SC572,11 Tahoe LT,09Ram Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: CT Posts: 76	I lik the ZL1 also but just had to hav some hp and as the time ticked away the callaway looked better an better...I trade my 45th with 285miles on it the car was nice but it just didt hav that punch....Still want a ZL tho... Does anyone know what the rwhp is on the Callaway?

03-26-2012, 07:01 PM	#44
REVENGE Drives: 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2009 Location: new york Posts: 137	The Callaway looks too much like a stock Camaro.

03-27-2012, 12:04 AM	#45
OVRKLL Drives: Soon 2 B a ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Hon. Hawaii Posts: 140	The Callaway looks great no doubt, not to mention the hp that comes with it. However, for ME, I want zee whole package that comes with the ZL1 where everything was built with each component in mind from diff to electronics...they compliment each other. With that said, if I can't get a Zl1 I wouldn't turn down a Callaway should one come my way. It is a Great alternative!

03-27-2012, 05:42 AM	#46
WS580 wseditions Drives: 12 Callaway SC572,11 Tahoe LT,09Ram Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: CT Posts: 76	Ovrkll very well Put i agree at this point and time the callaway plays the part its not just ur avg camaro people look at the car and go whats that.. so with that being said u dont see callaways at every stop light.

03-27-2012, 05:50 AM	#47
Blueclyde Drives: 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northeast Metro Detroit Posts: 1,090	What packages are on your Callaway? I would speculate you would see somewhere around 490-500 rwhp. __________________ 2012 ZL1, GBA, M6, ECF, Black 10 Spokes

03-27-2012, 12:51 PM	#48
Inferno Orange 2SS-RS US Army Retired Drives: IOM 2SS-RS - A6 (L99) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 546 View My Garage	I would get the ZL1. __________________ SMKIN SS 2SS/RS L99, LT Headers, High Flow Cats, JRE Custom Tune, JRE Air Scoop, CAI Intake, VMAX CNC Throttle Body, Doug Thorley Catback Exhaust, RX Oil Catch Can, Racing Pedals 13.15-108 mph: Lucas Oil Raceway

03-27-2012, 05:57 PM	#49
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2009 Malibu LT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 797	We need to encourage the aftermarket camaros to compete along with the zl1; That way we can keep the mustang and its aftermarket versions covered! __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '09 Malibu LT Dark Gray Metallic

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