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View Poll Results: if you definitely want a cylinder please chose V6 or SS. need to figure out how many
I own a V6 20 20.83%
I own a V6 but will wait for a core exchange 7 7.29%
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I own a SS but will wait for a core exchange 21 21.88%
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:07 AM   #1
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Project clutch master cylinder/second gear grind

I'm working on a fix for our crappy clutch master cylinders. I'm going to make this one flow more fluid and i'm going to test it in my own camaro.
If this works as it should, it should eliminate our high rpm second gear grind. machine shop is hard at work, i will be updating as soon as i get it back together.

UPDATE: INSTALLATION VIDS http://youtu.be/l8vacHyCInw 1st one

http://youtu.be/txlMf92EX4k 2nd one


This is the link for purchasing the cylinders
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This is another link showing you the bleeder location and few extra tips.
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I got it back already! ok now i need to test it. It might be a few days before i get to test it im not sure yet , i have a lot of work to get done here at the shop. as soon as possible i will get it installed and post the results
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i got it installed, got all the air bleed out of it. hopefully tomorrow i will have time to test it.
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I don't think its a clutch issue but nice work.
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I don't think its a clutch issue but nice work.
i need to be sure so were going to find out for sure with real tests not just theories
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I tested the clutch master cylinder today and it feels really good doesnt grab as close to the floor like the stock master. Shifts smooth just stepping on the clutch easy. I dont have to step all the way to the floor when shifting.

now I did 8 high rpm pulls from first to second ranging from 5800 rpm to redline stepping on clutch to the floor but not slamming it to the floor like previously posted in other threads. I had no grind issue!

This master cylinder flows more fluid and feels better then stock.

What i'm looking for is a volunteer. I want to install one of my master cylinders in someone elses car and see if it works for them.

So heres the deal:

I need one volunteer
you car must have a stock trans and i would like a stock clutch but i will accept an aftermarket clutch
and your car must only grind second gear at high rpm shifting only. If it grinds during regular driving or low rpm shifting i wont test it on your car.
you get to keep the master cylinder for free for being a test sample.

who would like to volunteer?
it will take me a few days to get another master cylinder built.
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I've got a maggie, but the car's drive train is other wise stock with stock clutch.

It needs a fluid change but I'll give it a go if you need a volunteer.

The only problem I've had with mine is the clutch pedal sticking to the floor under heavy braking and down shifting at the same time.
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If you don't mind, exactly how was the master cylinder modified to enable more flow? Longer stroke or was the fluid intake or output passage bored/drilled to a bigger diameter?
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I've got a maggie, but the car's drive train is other wise stock with stock clutch.

It needs a fluid change but I'll give it a go if you need a volunteer.

The only problem I've had with mine is the clutch pedal sticking to the floor under heavy braking and down shifting at the same time.
i'm not sure why you would get the clutch pedal sticking i have heard of this before a lot but mine has never done it.

I just ordered a new master and i wont get it until about 4 days from now dont know why it takes that long but i had to wait that long for the first one. then i have to take it apart and rebuild the insides.
also i see your in florida? I need someone to come here at my shop , i want to install it myself and make sure everything is blead right. i dont need to drive the car the owner can drive it during the testing.

anyone who is close to me and wants to volunteer pm me and when the master comes in im going to pick one of you and we will test it.
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If you don't mind, exactly how was the master cylinder modified to enable more flow? Longer stroke or was the fluid intake or output passage bored/drilled to a bigger diameter?


Tom i 'd rather not get into that right now. it has a little more to do with it then just boring it out. If it works and i have to start making these I'm going to have to find a cost convienent way to make these. once we know it works I can get on that though.
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Tom i 'd rather not get into that right now. it has a little more to do with it then just boring it out. If it works and i have to start making these I'm going to have to find a cost convienent way to make these. once we know it works I can get on that though.
I understand. If this solves the problem, please go ahead and put me on the list.
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i'm not sure why you would get the clutch pedal sticking i have heard of this before a lot but mine has never done it.

I just ordered a new master and i wont get it until about 4 days from now dont know why it takes that long but i had to wait that long for the first one. then i have to take it apart and rebuild the insides.
also i see your in florida? I need someone to come here at my shop , i want to install it myself and make sure everything is blead right. i dont need to drive the car the owner can drive it during the testing.

anyone who is close to me and wants to volunteer pm me and when the master comes in im going to pick one of you and we will test it.
I understand completely. Put me on the list when you are ready.

My clutch problem is from the shared reservoir and the fluid getting too hot under heavy braking cycles...

It's only happened a couple times and never on fresh fluid.
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And for those of you who dont already know, buying a remote bleeder for your slave cylinder works like a charm for bleeding your clutch and flushing fluid. makes life 100 times easier.
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I don't have a price yet. Part of the procedure to do this is costly doing one at a time. I'm trying to figure out how to do it cheaper doing 50 at a time. But I want to make sure it's going to work for everyone first
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