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Old 03-28-2012, 03:56 PM   #15
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Old 03-28-2012, 04:11 PM   #16
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I kept telling everyone in the "should they build the 1LE" polls that it wasn't going to be a Z28 but somehow the masses were blinded and thought it was a Z28. Every time GM comes out with pictures of something new for the Camaro you guys automatically assume it's going to be a Z28... Be patient and have faith. Remember, any car can be an SS but only one car can be a Z28... GM's going to make damn sure that car is worthy of the name.
For the True ZEE-lievers, the 1LE is close...veryvery close...but the Havana cigar still awaits us...

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Old 03-28-2012, 04:17 PM   #17
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Ill be getting a 2018 Z28 when it comes out. But im pretty sure we wont see a 5th gen Z28 and thats a good thing since this car is kinda heavy, I just hope they give is a nice N/a motor with a slightly higher redline like the old 69 Z28,
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Old 03-28-2012, 05:22 PM   #18
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Well, there's STILL a $10K gap between a Base 2SS/1LE and a Base ZL1. That's a lot of real e$tate.

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BOSS LS @ 3:02.8
1LE @ "under 3:00"
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There'z ROOM @ the INN...and Scott continues to say, "We're NOT done..."

THREE full Model Years to go-go-go...
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Old 03-28-2012, 05:42 PM   #19
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Imagine if they had simply released the 5th gen as a base model and a Z/28. Everyone would cry foul and be begging for their SS. Think SLP 4th gen. To this day when most people are searching to buy a used 4th gen they are looking for the SS model.

The reason people are happy enough that the 1LE isn't called a Z/28 is because if they did people would lose their minds and complain it's way too heavy..

The only way GM is going to please the Z crowd is by waiting until the 6th gen that will be smaller, lighter and more nimble. Who knows you may very well see no factory SS model on a 6th gen.
The Z28 was NEVER lighter. We want the Z28 to have more power(LS7) and the 6/4 brakes.
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Old 03-28-2012, 05:43 PM   #20
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Since I've been on this board, I've seen tons of people asking for a Z-28. I can't recall ever seeing anyone asking for a ZL1 or a 1LE prior to their announcement. Perhaps I just missed those post.

Im not complaining about to many options, I'm just saying I'd rather be able to choose what I'm paying for rather than just have all inclusive packages.
Very good point!
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When the z28 comes out, it'll be be way more badass than the 1LE.
I hope so. Otherwise this is all mute. "1LE" should have been just an SS option or next year model upgrade. I don't follow the music. The Corporate thinking or vision is a bit cloudy from my perspective with where we are heading. I hope the ship gets on course.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:29 PM   #22
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I hope so. Otherwise this is all mute. "1LE" should have been just an SS option or next year model upgrade. I don't follow the music. The Corporate thinking or vision is a bit cloudy from my perspective with where we are heading. I hope the ship gets on course.
No offense, but it is an SS option. It's not the beloved Z28 but it is a nice upgrade that will make a lot of people happy. I do hope you guys get your Z though, yall deserve it.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:50 PM   #23
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The 1LE makes sense as a performance upgrade for the SS. It's a "next step" marketing maneuver. We need just 1 more step to reach the ZL1, and that's the Z28.
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:03 PM   #24
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The Z28 was NEVER lighter. We want the Z28 to have more power(LS7) and the 6/4 brakes.
I never implied that it was. But, at this point with the SS where it is the ZL1 and now the 1LE. Where does a Z/28 really fit in. Make it a 1LE with more power? That's way to close to a ZL1 now so that isn't gonna happen.

What are you left with? An Plain SS with a power bump?

None of us really know but, i just don't see it happening on a 5th gen. We all know the 6th gen will be lighter and smaller so that is a good place to bring back the Z28 at this point.
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Just so I can steer this thread back on track before the mods throw it into the z28 sub-forum....

Are there any historical Camaro nameplates that we have not hit yet? Maybe our 5th gen is the platform for the Camaro all-stars reunion

iron duke? Need to see that 0-60 time in the 20 sec mark
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Are there any historical Camaro nameplates that we have not hit yet? Maybe our 5th gen is the platform for the Camaro all-stars reunion

iron duke?
That's reserved for the Z28 with the LSX cast-iron block...
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