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Old 05-09-2009, 04:06 PM   #251
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Mustang GTs arn't worth 12K! Dealers are getting 12K and more over msrp for the Camaro!
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I saw both in person yesterday up close. The passenger side of the camaro interior is not nearly as bad as what it's made out to be and the dash buttons and stuff were Honda-esque. But I will say the dash on the driver side (speedo & tach) were HIDEOUS. They looked extremely cheap. Also, the plastic on the dash board all across was a little cheap as well, but not too bad. They should have just thrown the G8 interior in there, it was much better. I was surprised by how tiny the front windshield was and the rear visibility was quite lacking as well.
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I'll bet who will have the most pre-orders!!!! not built
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Old 05-10-2009, 12:40 PM   #254
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I think GM are not marketing these cars correctly. In MIA, unless you are a Camaro fan, or a car enthusiast in general, many do not even know the Maro is being done. That is no joke as well. When a v6 shoed up to the local friday night car show, many were asking .."Is that a new GTO or something ? Its a camero ?? when did that happen ?"

Hell I finally seen a camaro commercial last week.
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I saw both in person yesterday up close. The passenger side of the camaro interior is not nearly as bad as what it's made out to be and the dash buttons and stuff were Honda-esque. But I will say the dash on the driver side (speedo & tach) were HIDEOUS. They looked extremely cheap. Also, the plastic on the dash board all across was a little cheap as well, but not too bad. They should have just thrown the G8 interior in there, it was much better. I was surprised by how tiny the front windshield was and the rear visibility was quite lacking as well.
I have to agree. Also the cabin size seems a bit cramped. I am 6'4 290, and it was a bit of a squeeze...I was like "is this as far as the seat goes back ??" Also I did not like were the gauge cluster was..in front of the shifter like that...It seems you have to look right and down..granted you will not monitor that stuff like a hawk..but still..

I think they would have been better served by using the g8 concept, and just switched it around a bit.
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I saw both in person yesterday up close. The passenger side of the camaro interior is not nearly as bad as what it's made out to be and the dash buttons and stuff were Honda-esque. But I will say the dash on the driver side (speedo & tach) were HIDEOUS. They looked extremely cheap. Also, the plastic on the dash board all across was a little cheap as well, but not too bad. They should have just thrown the G8 interior in there, it was much better. I was surprised by how tiny the front windshield was and the rear visibility was quite lacking as well.
While the G8 interior is a bit nicer than the Camaro's, do you know how much flack Chrysler gets for using the same interior in the Charger and Challenger?

As for the rear visibility of the Camaro ... what rear visibility? lol.
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While the G8 interior is a bit nicer than the Camaro's, do you know how much flack Chrysler gets for using the same interior in the Charger and Challenger?

As for the rear visibility of the Camaro ... what rear visibility? lol.
haha, yeah, people hate it if you do, people hate it if you dont.
i happen to like how the camaro has a camaro interior.
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While the G8 interior is a bit nicer than the Camaro's, do you know how much flack Chrysler gets for using the same interior in the Charger and Challenger?

As for the rear visibility of the Camaro ... what rear visibility? lol.
Well..they did not need to make exactly like a G8...but just take some of the que's from it.
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Got the 2010 Mustang GT Prem.

1. It is the better looking car in my opinion. Both inside and out. Now if it was the '05 model against the camaro it'd be a different story. The interior in the Camaro is way too cheap.

2. The front of the Mustang is way more appealing. The Camaro is lacking something, I think it's that really plastic looking grille. (I remember thinking the same thing about the '05 mustang having a really cheap grille)

3. More opportunities on the Mustang. Roush - need I say more?

4. Interior is like something of a cadillac, lexus or bmw. Its so nice.

5. Ambient lighting is done way more discreetly. It impresses but doesn't look like an alien spaceship.

However, don't let the cheaper price fool you - they aren't much of a difference.


2010 Mustang & 2010 Camaro both are some of the coolest cars. I was the first one to own a 2010 Mustang GT in my state, would love to roll around with a 2010 Camaro sometime. (Saw someone driving one today, though I think it was a v6)
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there seems to be a lot of replies from mustang owners just pointing it out not trying to start argument
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there seems to be a lot of replies from mustang owners just pointing it out not trying to start argument
haha, they must have alot stonger koolaid than we camaro lovers....
they think the mustangs interior is as nice a a caddy, lexus or bimmer. HAHAHA, thats some strongggg kool aid.

i think just about every camaro lover would agree that the CTS has a nicer interior. not saying i would rather have that in the camaro, but its undoubtedly nicer.

again, not trying to start an argument...
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ACTUALLY the guy that works on my cars (retired from the local dealer, owns his own shop) has an old school Camaro.. I think a 1960's?

His comment (not word for word): "I actually like the dash better than a Lexus, which is my favorite."

Now, without the wood I'd have to say my car looks nicer than this.. http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/...primary=2&id=1
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haha, they must have alot stonger koolaid than we camaro lovers....
they think the mustangs interior is as nice a a caddy, lexus or bimmer. HAHAHA, thats some strongggg kool aid.

i think just about every camaro lover would agree that the CTS has a nicer interior. not saying i would rather have that in the camaro, but its undoubtedly nicer.

again, not trying to start an argument...
Hey man if thats his opinion its his opinion, I like the new Mustangs interior much more than the Camaros , but a CTS interior it is not! The CTS probably has the best interior for the money
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im sorry, but it does not.
i know that you would like to think so, and thats totally cool that you think your car is the best made. and yes, i could compare a mustang to a cts, but that is not the topic at hand.

that doesnt meet 2012 safety standards is rubish. and i find it very odd of ford to unveil a car in 2010 that doesnt.
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Hey man if thats his opinion its his opinion, I like the new Mustangs interior much more than the Camaros , but a CTS interior it is not! The CTS probably has the best interior for the money
agreed!
and they beat a lot of higher priced cars.
and yes, interiors are subjective...
but, i combated that with the safety mandate, thats a fact.
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agreed!
and they beat a lot of higher priced cars.
and yes, interiors are subjective...
but, i combated that with the safety mandate, thats a fact.
Where are you getting this safety BS? lol
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FMVSS No. 214, “Side Impact Protection.”
thats basicallly when it started, i cant find where its specifically said it will have to have thorax and side curtains..i had it then x'ed out
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NHTSA recently issued a final rule to incorporate a dynamic pole test into
FMVSS No. 214, “Side Impact Protection.” The rule will lead to the installation of
new technologies, such as side curtain air bags and torso side air bags, which are capable
of improving head and thorax protection to occupants of vehicles and that crash into
poles and trees and vehicles that are laterally struck by a higher vehicle. The phase-in
requirements for the side impact test are as shown below:

Phase-in Date Percent of each manufacturer’s light vehicles that must comply
during the production period
September 1, 2009

to August 31, 2010
20 percent (excluding vehicles GVWR > 8,500 lbs.)

September 1, 2010
to August 31, 2011
50 percent vehicles (excluding vehicles GVWR > 8,500 lbs.)

September 1, 2011
to August 31, 2012
75 percent vehicles (excluding vehicles GVWR > 8,500 lbs.)

September 1, 2012
to August 31, 2013
All vehicles including limited line vehicles, except vehicles with
GVWR > 8,500 lbs., alterers, and multi-stage manufacturers

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/nhts...M_April_21.pdf
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NHTSA rated a 5 star crash test side image rating in 05-09 model for front seats and the front seats have side air bags. There still is no proof here showing the 2010 Mustang doesn't comply?
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Black, and I am production #00027 ! I will charge my camera and post some pics tomorrow. It's a nice car.
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I don't know how we can really argue this without going into performance and handling aspects. The exterior and interior styling is extremely subjective and you can't argue someone into liking it.

I know we know who the winner is in terms of performance but I think in this case you either like the Mustang styling and want it more then you want the higher performance of the Camaro. Nothing wrong with that at all. I think both cars are REALLY good looking cars and I'd take either one gladly, but for pure performance I'd pick the SS.
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I don't know how we can really argue this without going into performance and handling aspects. The exterior and interior styling is extremely subjective and you can't argue someone into liking it.

I know we know who the winner is in terms of performance but I think in this case you either like the Mustang styling and want it more then you want the higher performance of the Camaro. Nothing wrong with that at all. I think both cars are REALLY good looking cars and I'd take either one gladly, but for pure performance I'd pick the SS.
Performance? Okay 400lbs+ in weight without the spare tire my mustang has is unneeded. Also, it has 96 more hp but still has a 4.8 0-60 speed and mine is 4.9. Now add some roush to this and what do you get?
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Performance? Okay 400lbs+ in weight without the spare tire my mustang has is unneeded. Also, it has 96 more hp but still has a 4.8 0-60 speed and mine is 4.9. Now add some roush to this and what do you get?
a tuner car.
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