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Old 04-03-2012, 08:14 PM   #18
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GM was committed to the Z28 label at that time. SLP offered an upgrade to the Z28 in the form of the Z28/SS. Thankfully GM has righted the ship now...at least once the Z28 has arrived.

It's more than the "Name" it's what it stands for and what it should and will be.
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Old 04-03-2012, 08:32 PM   #19
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Will it out perform the ZL1? If not does it really matter then??

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Old 04-03-2012, 08:44 PM   #20
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Since the 5th Gen is inspired by the 1st Gen, when I think Z/28 I think of a 1st Gen inspired Z/28. Lightweight no frills, like rollup windows, no A/C or radio. Track suspension and lots of N/A power. Street legal racer, unlike the current COPO with no VIN.

It came from the factory with headers !!!

(they were in the trunk and the dealer installed them)
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Old 04-03-2012, 08:50 PM   #21
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Since the 5th Gen is inspired by the 1st Gen, when I think Z/28 I think of a 1st Gen inspired Z/28. Lightweight no frills, like rollup windows, no A/C or radio. Track suspension and lots of N/A power. Street legal racer, unlike the current COPO with no VIN.

It came from the factory with headers !!!

(they were in the trunk and the dealer installed them)
It was not lighter. And it could be ordered up even with HH, and they weren't light.
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Old 04-03-2012, 08:53 PM   #22
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and here is why you are really confused. The SS name plate on the camaro dropped off sometime in the 70's. And was not used again until the 4th Gens. in 1993 SLP went to GM and said they wanted to do something special. What resulted was the SS. Since the Z28 was already in production all 94-97 SS's were Z28/SS's. with the introduction of the LS1 into the 4th gens SS became the dominate name plate. the SS has not always been the "Top Dog" for the Camaro.

As for the current Gen the SS stands behind hits name very well. But it doesn't fill the void of a track superstar. The 1LE is a step in the right direction but still not a worthy of the Z28 designation, IMO.
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Old 04-03-2012, 08:54 PM   #23
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No need for fighting kids.

The Z28 will return. And when it does, it will be worthy of the name. Note that Chevy hasn't released that particular version just yet. I still truly believe the 1LE is this generation's Z28. But I'm all-in on betting a 6th gen will have that emblem on it somewhere.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:00 PM   #24
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JMO, but the ZL1 is the hard hitting street bruiser to kick sand in the face of the GT500. And I love that aspect. But the entire 5th gen platform is too heavy/bulky to be nimble enough to handle like a Z28 SHOULD do. This is why I feel GM isn't going to stick the Z28 emblem on a 5th gen. I wish they would bring it back, but I'm afraid not for a couple more years. I feel it in the Force. Just like Yoda....forsee it, I have...
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But the entire 5th gen platform is too heavy/bulky to be nimble enough to handle like a Z28 SHOULD do
Try telling that to Pedders.......




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I thankfully believe you are not right. The Z28 was never NEVER lighter! The VERY rigid Camaro chassis is perfect to build off of. Why just look at the capabilities of both the ZL1 and 1LE. A FORCE to be reckoned with.
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The right suspension parts work wonders!

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For the record I haven't been here for several years, and I will stick by what I said and that is the Z/28 needs to out perform the ZL1 on all accounts and I will add that it means for track and strip. It seems to me that GM built everything before and after the Z/28. We have the SS we have the ZL1 then a big empty hole then the COPO.. The Z/28 should be between the ZL1 and the COPO. And the 1LE fits in there somewhere. LOL


GM has already designated the ZL1 as the then and now Ultimate Camaro.

Also from a marketing standpoint the price gap is between the 1LE $40K and the ZL1 $55K. That is the gap to fill.
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Just curious why everyone on the board is always so excited about the z/28 over the SS? I'll explain why I'm asking...maybe it's performance related or I'm just not well educated enough in the differences between Z/28 and SS.
...ok, we'll just leave it at that...we want a Z/28....in a Gen5 form, with a LS7...the SS VS Z/28 argument had been played out so many times we need a taxidermist to re-do the dead horse.
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GM has already designated the ZL1 as the then and now Ultimate Camaro.

Also from a marketing standpoint the price gap is between the 1LE $40K and the ZL1 $55K. That is the gap to fill.
Are there any specs on the 1LE yet?
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...ok, we'll just leave it at that...we want a Z/28....in the a Gen5 form, with a LS7...the SS VS Z/28 argument had been played out so many times we need a taxidermist to re-do the dead horse.
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