Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Fabberge
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Forced Induction - V8

Forced Induction - V8 V8 Supercharger, turbo, nitrous discussions

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-11-2009, 08:20 AM   #1
Epitaph
Custom User Title
 
Drives: Fast
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 550
super/turbo for DD

I'm taking a different look at this, I know quite a few of you are taking yours to the track on the weekend(every month or so for me), some of you are going to look for some 'stangs on the street. But what about those of use who aren't allowed to get the Camaro and our wifes get them?

She won't be able to handle 500+HP to the wheels, so i'm definitely not getting her the S/C, unless it can be turned on/off, and I'm not thinking that's possible. I'm thinking of doing the twin-turbo from APS if/when they come out with one, so the HP is in the high RPM range, isn't that correct? I've dealt with S/C on an old 350 before, but none of this newer technology.

This is definitely not a which 1 is better, it's which 1 do you think would suit my wife better?
Epitaph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2009, 08:53 AM   #2
fdjizm
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2008 Mustang GT/CS
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,429
I would say the turbo would be less touchy on the street in the low rpm range.
fdjizm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2009, 08:54 AM   #3
Warpick
 
Drives: Rust bucket and a jalopy
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Central florida
Posts: 52
Unless she can handle high horsepower, just get her an intake and exhaust. It'll boost the power and sound of her car.

Both turbo and supercharging will give a lot of power that might potentially give her more then she can handle.
Warpick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2009, 09:12 AM   #4
Crowley
Okie doke
 
Crowley's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 GT500
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: McKinney Texas
Posts: 3,770
It really all depends on the application. For the roots (Eaton) style that was in my 04 cobra, if you didn't get into it, you weren't into boost .... Also todays turbochargers can spool up pretty quick (not as instant, but you would be suprised .. it isn't all on the top end unless you build it that way).

Crowley
__________________
Crowley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2009, 09:27 AM   #5
speedster
SST...
 
speedster's Avatar
 
Drives: SST Camaro 2010
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: East Coast of Florida
Posts: 6,057
I guess the first question is: If your wife can't handle it, why are you risking putting her in danger if she pushed the pedal too far? If you only want the extra power when YOU drive it, you can control output with a throttle stop or add nitrous to satisfy your immediate need for speed.
__________________
speedster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2009, 09:35 AM   #6
Grape Ape
 
Drives: 96 Bronco w/ a 5 speed
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: PNW
Posts: 296
Maybe your installer/tuner could come up with a "valet mode" that holds the waste gates wide open.

But I think speedster is right that nitrous might be the way to go in your situation.
Grape Ape is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2009, 09:10 PM   #7
Epitaph
Custom User Title
 
Drives: Fast
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 550
Quote:
Originally Posted by speedster View Post
I guess the first question is: If your wife can't handle it, why are you risking putting her in danger if she pushed the pedal too far? If you only want the extra power when YOU drive it, you can control output with a throttle stop or add nitrous to satisfy your immediate need for speed.
That's the reason I was asking, I wouldn't want her to get her. If the s/c could be disabled, I would definitely not have a problem with going with one. Throttle stop? I welded one of those on my nephews go-cart so it couldn't go over a certain speed, I could do the same thing with a programmer, correct?
Epitaph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2009, 09:56 PM   #8
CamaroSpike23
Mr. Nitpicky
 
CamaroSpike23's Avatar
 
Drives: anything I can get my hands on
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Posts: 22,928
Send a message via Yahoo to CamaroSpike23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Epitath View Post
She won't be able to handle 500+HP to the wheels, so i'm definitely not getting her the S/C, unless it can be turned on/off, and I'm not thinking that's possible.
you need this S/C

__________________
Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff
Quote:
Originally Posted by BowtieGuy View Post
Nobody makes CamaroSpike happy. You just disgust him a little less than other people.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldogwinters View Post
Read that link that Spike posted, it'll tell you everything you need to know.
Quote:
Originally Posted by WheelmanSS View Post
Post count is truly an accurate measure of how cool someone is on the Internet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Norris View Post
I piss excellence
and fart awesomeness
Quote:
Originally Posted by BowtieGuy View Post
Nobody makes CamaroSpike happy. You just disgust him a little less than other people.
"You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.”
Quote:
Originally Posted by Overflow View Post
But not all people were born awesome like you, Spike.
CamaroSpike23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2009, 10:22 PM   #9
speedster
SST...
 
speedster's Avatar
 
Drives: SST Camaro 2010
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: East Coast of Florida
Posts: 6,057
Quote:
Originally Posted by Epitath View Post
That's the reason I was asking, I wouldn't want her to get her. If the s/c could be disabled, I would definitely not have a problem with going with one. Throttle stop? I welded one of those on my nephews go-cart so it couldn't go over a certain speed, I could do the same thing with a programmer, correct?
Hey Epitath -

Programmers: Someone will make a programmer that can have two or more preset modes to control the LS3/L99 ECM. Just a matter of when. Diesels do it right now.

Throttle Stops: Dedenbear make some really cool controllable throttle stops (even two stage) so you could always go that route.

Nitrous: Easy to control either by the valve (just on/off) or a sequential controller.

Turbos: The lowest you can reasonably REGULATE turbos is down around 3.5 psi. Below that they usually have some level of boost creep, but that's pretty low boost.

Superchargers: Other than Spike's "Mad Max" version you can't really disable a supercharger short of pulling the belt off. ATI makes a clutched blower 'Superpulley', but that only is for freewheeling in one direction NOT on-off. One possible alternative is a blower with a SEPARATE 6 to 12 rib serpentine belt (as opposed to the cogged belt most people associate with a blower). That belt can be installed or removed in about 30 seconds with just a 3/4" open end wrench. [One note about this if the blower has a bypass valve, no sweat, if it doesn't, you will have a very noticeable loss of power without the blower belt on]

Just some more possibilities to contemplate. Enjoy yourself either way and keep your wife safe !!!
__________________

Last edited by speedster; 05-11-2009 at 10:33 PM.
speedster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2009, 10:29 PM   #10
GTAHVIT
Blessed
 
GTAHVIT's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Saint Augustine FL
Posts: 28,849
Quote:
Originally Posted by speedster View Post
I guess the first question is: If your wife can't handle it, why are you risking putting her in danger if she pushed the pedal too far? If you only want the extra power when YOU drive it, you can control output with a throttle stop or add nitrous to satisfy your immediate need for speed.
I agree with speedster here.

If you want the car to have more power but not "get away from you" power then I'd stick to some less costly bolt-ons and leave it at that.

However if you have to go FI, then a single turbo set up will be more tame than a supercharger. Not by much though.
GTAHVIT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2009, 12:48 PM   #11
2010SSRSM6
SoCal C5 Family Member
 
2010SSRSM6's Avatar
 
Drives: My wife crazy with my C5 usage.
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SoCal
Posts: 5,983
If you go with a mild amount of boost, and your wife is somewhat responsible, either should be fine. You can get a smaller pulley for a S/C or a small volume turbo and only go with 6 psi of boost, make good gains in power and not snap her neck if she were to inadvertantly get on it passing someone on the freeway.

Twin Turbo's would not be the way to go. Most TT setups are designed to get power from over idle to WOT. A single turbo or S/C with a small pulley would be fine IMO.
__________________
Powered by Cunningham MotorSports
2010SSRSM6 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
GMPP super/turbo kit Caliman93230 Forced Induction - V8 24 10-11-2008 09:09 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.