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Old 04-14-2012, 05:18 PM   #69
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SVT is offline as they have a meeting to come up with a thread to bash these results.
Great work guys, oh so close, but 11.0x is nothing to sneeze at.
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:20 PM   #70
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Graham...good job on the car and great job keeping us in the loop like you do. I for one really appreciate the fuel pump feedback. I now know cam plus supercharger means dangerous territory on a ss car with a zl1 pump dropped in. Better off with lingenfelter's fuel pump upgrade.
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:22 PM   #71
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No Mike the wheels we used were CCW and the fronts will fit CTSV also, rears were 18". The point of this was to show that less than $ 3 k in engine mods, plus good tires would do this. More to come!

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What size were the front rims? Love the car!
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:25 PM   #72
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What size were the front rims? Love the car!
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:25 PM   #73
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I thought American Airlines was proof that pigs can fly.....
I think that the Camaro in and of it's self is proof that pigs can fly.
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:32 PM   #74
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zl1 are selling for about 60k with gas guzzler tax and what nots, my SS was 28k Fastlane's turbo kit which is about 8k kicks you to 10.34 @ 138, we have some members rocking low 9s and barely touching 8s with a procharger, nitro and what nots. I dunno maybe i'm just over estimating how far your dollar will take you and expecting more from the ZL1.
I can tell by the way you post you proabably have a long history driving 8 second cars down the strip. I say go for it. then post back what you acatually spend to 10's. then 9's, then 8's.

we will then total the amount actaully spent and see if fantasy and reality actualy match up price wise.
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:37 PM   #75
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Off the top of my head, I cannot remember, but I will check the dyno information on Mon.

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Graham, when tuning, was consideration given with regard to the hyper piston/powdered rod combination with respect to timing? In other words, how aggressive was the tune and what metric are you using to ensure some semblance of longevity with the wick turned up?

Is the plan to keep bumping closer to the limit with a teardown in the future?
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:39 PM   #76
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Graham...good job on the car and great job keeping us in the loop like you do. I for one really appreciate the fuel pump feedback. I now know cam plus supercharger means dangerous territory on a ss car with a zl1 pump dropped in. Better off with lingenfelter's fuel pump upgrade.
Hey, no problem, it's time for 20V next week!

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Old 04-14-2012, 05:42 PM   #77
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Wait so there is a 5th Gen in the 8's??? Is this a all out race car? Can somebody post a link to more info?
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:43 PM   #78
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more seat time and track conditions to name two.
track conditions were not complained about in the original post, so why defend an issue that doesnt exist? There is no such thing as "perfect" track conditions. If its cold, you cannot hook up and get less heat soak. If its hot you hook up but lose power. Numbers will gravitate towards the middle of those two conditions.

Seat time, assuming its an automatic makes no difference. Are we talking about reaction time's getting better?? As far as I am concerned its as simple as pushing down the far right pedal and letting the ECU shift for you.



So name 2 more please.
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:46 PM   #79
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Graham, when tuning, was consideration given with regard to the hyper piston/powdered rod combination with respect to timing? In other words, how aggressive was the tune and what metric are you using to ensure some semblance of longevity with the wick turned up?

Is the plan to keep bumping closer to the limit with a teardown in the future?
Tuning is always on the "safe" side, obviously this was done on a race gas tune, the number shown on the 93 Oct dyno sheet is about 4 degrees less, but at less boost. At this boost level the race gas tune has 7-8 degrees more than the 93 tune.

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Old 04-14-2012, 05:52 PM   #80
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track conditions were not complained about in the original post, so why defend an issue that doesnt exist? There is no such thing as "perfect" track conditions. If its cold, you cannot hook up and get less heat soak. If its hot you hook up but lose power. Numbers will gravitate towards the middle of those two conditions.

Seat time, assuming its an automatic makes no difference. Are we talking about reaction time's getting better?? As far as I am concerned its as simple as pushing down the far right pedal and letting the ECU shift for you.



So name 2 more please.
Actually while the track conditions were not "bad" they were not the best. If you read further down the post you would notice that the DA was 1800 above sea level that in its self says something about the air there at the time they were racing. AS you stated Graham didnt make any excuses for the times at all. Air is just a factor that we all have to deal. The DA and the time does tell a story for people that are below and above 1800 DA.

As well Im pretty sure this was a manual and as Graham stated as well that with the tire package and the hp it was putting down that it was tricky to be consistant. Which I interpret as they prolly could not hit it as hard as they would like to just yet. Again give it time.
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:55 PM   #81
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track conditions were not complained about in the original post, so why defend an issue that doesnt exist? There is no such thing as "perfect" track conditions. If its cold, you cannot hook up and get less heat soak. If its hot you hook up but lose power. Numbers will gravitate towards the middle of those two conditions.

Seat time, assuming its an automatic makes no difference. Are we talking about reaction time's getting better?? As far as I am concerned its as simple as pushing down the far right pedal and letting the ECU shift for you.



So name 2 more please.
I really don't think we need to get into semantics, but we have no complaints about track conditions, it is what it is, the car is a manual trans BTW. But give me -1000 ft DA. at MIR in DECEMBER any day

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Old 04-14-2012, 06:02 PM   #82
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Don't forget to factor into the budget a parachute for that 8 sec. Camaro. LOL.
If we could get into the 8 s for $15-30k everybody would be doing it.
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Old 04-14-2012, 06:04 PM   #83
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I really don't think we need to get into semantics, but we have no complaints about track conditions, it is what it is, the car is a manual trans BTW. But give me -1000 ft DA. at MIR in DECEMBER any day

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the point I was trying to make with him on a different day you could see 10's. or as the hotrod blog shows worse. conditions will effect every car there not just the ZL1. if there was a GT500 that day it wouldn't be running the best either.

what people are doing is comparing the best GT500 times to an avg day for this car. which shouldn't be done. more passes on different tracks and in different conditions will give a better view of what this car is capable of.

also I think people are confusing the LPE car with the HPE. one manual (LPE) and one auto (HPE). I can see some frustration just in that. oh well. I'm done arguing that this car can see 10's with the mods you have done. I know it's possible.
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Old 04-14-2012, 06:06 PM   #84
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Gram great runs.

We ran a 10.20 @ 137 in the G-Force CTS-V last week. Can you give more info on wheels and tires. Did you change the front brakes to fit the runners? Did you try a 17 in weld on the rear?


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Old 04-14-2012, 06:08 PM   #85
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Im just glad that the first run down the 1/4 wasn't done at Mile High at 5pm in July with a Auto! Actually maybe I do, I think people would be trading them in and I could get one earlier for a steal!
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