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Old 04-14-2012, 06:43 PM   #101
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What's so hard about 8 seconds? Damn the first time I ran 8 seconds(and it cost me much less than 15-30k), well everyone remembers their first ah... Nevermind wrong subjecy been a long day.
I hope you are talking about a bull because 8 seconds with anything other than a car or a bull is embarrassing no matter what the circumstances are
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Old 04-14-2012, 06:48 PM   #102
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I hope you are talking about a bull because 8 seconds with anything other than a car or a bull is embarrassing no matter what the circumstances are
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Old 04-14-2012, 06:49 PM   #103
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knock limited

Yes it is huge, depends on the timing response, good old spark looop. The engine will increase in power, with ignition advance, until it plateaus and then loses, assuming it is not knock limited.

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Exactly. We used C16 on my car so knock wasnt an issue. Lol car plateaued
@ 24*. Threw 26* at it and didnt make any more power. Gotta love race gas.
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:03 PM   #104
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130 trap speed is impressive, but i think most people won't be running race fuel like that. I would be more curious on what it makes on pump 93. I would assume it would be a good 125 or so
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:31 PM   #105
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You want a $54k car or a $64k car? Enough said.
Yikes those are 10K in mods . I guess if I can squeeze the price of the ZL1 in my budget, I will just have to duck my head at the stoplight if a Shelby pulls up :(. Enough jokes, I would pay 5k extra for this pkg from the factory
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Old 04-14-2012, 08:09 PM   #106
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Very nice if that is really 3-4 more psi and for the mods .. .. cheap mods and big gains

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Crowley... you are a real "level headed" guy who plays it fair on both sides of the street! I saw your posts on the "other" forum. Nice to see "fair and balanced".... FWIW. I don't give a flip if you do use a 1999 Samsung flip phone in a belt holster! You have to admit that this test will get those heads turned eh?
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:16 PM   #107
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11s that is awesome Lingenfelter knows his stuff 10s by next week
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:20 PM   #108
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Throw 4.10's in it and get that sixty where it should be and with that MPH it will be deep deep into the tens. Nice work LPE!
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isn't the LSA motor basicaly the same engine in the CTSv? If so why all the amazement at HP increase with pully change?
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:44 PM   #110
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I think that the Camaro in and of it's self is proof that pigs can fly.
You know.....I think you were right in the other thread. I think Hennessy purposely ran a slow time so They could do a tune and a pulley and run 11.20-11.30@ around 125-126mph with out racegas and a modified intake. That or they just can't drive. I guarantee this car traps around 120-122 stock. I think Hennessy did that crap on purpose.
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:51 PM   #111
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Throw 4.10's in it and get that sixty where it should be and with that MPH it will be deep deep into the tens. Nice work LPE!
No reason to put 4.10s in it. By my math with the current setup they can run about 140-145 before they would need to get into 5th. Running the 4.10s would force them into 5th and drop the rpm down around 5000 rpm.

I think the 3.73s with the 28 inch almost 29 inch tall tire is about perfect for that car. It makes enough low to mid range torque to pull mid 1.5 60's if not better.
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:59 PM   #112
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You know.....I think you were right in the other thread. I think Hennessy purposely ran a slow time so They could do a tune and a pulley and run 11.20-11.30@ around 125-126mph with out racegas and a modified intake. That or they just can't drive. I guarantee this car traps around 120-122 stock. I think Hennessy did that crap on purpose.
Ha Ha... no they didn't... it is what it is... for now... there will be plenty of baselines that's probably why LPE didn't need one.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:13 PM   #113
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No reason to put 4.10s in it. By my math with the current setup they can run about 140-145 before they would need to get into 5th. Running the 4.10s would force them into 5th and drop the rpm down around 5000 rpm.

I think the 3.73s with the 28 inch almost 29 inch tall tire is about perfect for that car. It makes enough low to mid range torque to pull mid 1.5 60's if not better.
4.10 is the perfect ratio with 28.9 tires. They are crossing the stripe at 5745 with the 3.73's. With 4.10's they will be crossing the stripe at 6200 at 130 MPH with a 1:1 trans gear.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:18 PM   #114
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Wait. Was proper break-in followed?

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That was sweet, but if your going to mod a ZL1 to go fast straight, would your money be better spent on a SS?

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Yes its now broken in
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If getting power is that easy why did GM, just not do these things from the start?? Or why don't the 2013s come with a pully change and better cold air unit so you don't have to loose the warranty on a 60K car??
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Baseline time would have been nice.

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As well so many people keep pointing out that their ss will keep up for less, thats great but would it be able to keep up on the road course as well. Normally everything is a compromise from one to the other. the ZL1 is starting to show that it will be able to hang pretty good at both tracks with a little work and not upsetting the cars suspension or much of anything else.

Also people talk about the warranty, everything I have seen on this car can be switched back to stock pretty easy unless GM is actually watching how many times the tune is changed. I had heard rumors of this but never got anything solid on it.
They can see if the tune has been flashed.
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Throwing 30k in a SS will not get you in the 9's for sure not in the 8's
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track conditions were not complained about in the original post, so why defend an issue that doesnt exist? There is no such thing as "perfect" track conditions. If its cold, you cannot hook up and get less heat soak. If its hot you hook up but lose power. Numbers will gravitate towards the middle of those two conditions.

Seat time, assuming its an automatic makes no difference. Are we talking about reaction time's getting better?? As far as I am concerned its as simple as pushing down the far right pedal and letting the ECU shift for you.



So name 2 more please.
You need to make it out to the track more often.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:21 PM   #115
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Exciting stuff, thanks for sharing Graham.

I just picked up a regular SS m'self with the slushbox.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:26 PM   #116
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4.10 is the perfect ratio with 28.9 tires. They are crossing the stripe at 5745 with the 3.73's. With 4.10's they will be crossing the stripe at 6200 at 130 MPH with a 1:1 trans gear.
It would be perfect if they were planning to not run anymore more MPH. Im sure they plan on going faster
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:31 PM   #117
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It would be perfect if they were planning not running anymore more MPH. Im sure they plan on going faster
I think 130 is plenty and in race car terms knocking on 10 zero's. For ET they need to launch the heavy car with gear or low end torque. Gear is the easy answer for that and 4.10's will still not hit the limiter in 4th at the stripe at 130.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:44 PM   #118
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If getting power is that easy why did GM, just not do these things from the start?? Or why don't the 2013s come with a pully change and better cold air unit so you don't have to loose the warranty on a 60K car??
Perhaps because the Camaro's performance may always be boxed in by the Corvette. GM would likely never produce a Camaro with more HP than their top performer and money maker.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:51 PM   #119
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It would be perfect if they were planning to not run anymore more MPH. Im sure they plan on going faster

more hp to go faster, more gear to go quicker...(in this case) I agree with the 4:10 observation, unless of course you are aiming for real low 10's high 9's in which case more power to the level of needing a forged rod/piston combo I think.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:54 PM   #120
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more hp to go faster, more gear to go quicker...
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Oh by the way...great job Graham and LPE!!!! (how much is the cold air kit)
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isn't the LSA motor basicaly the same engine in the CTSv? If so why all the amazement at HP increase with pully change?
Cts-v has an LSA in it. 556hp instead of 580hp.
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:12 AM   #123
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The heck with race gas, we are about to spray one with a dual nozzel alky kit and a smaller pulley.

Lets not forget the race wheels that were run on the car also...Awesome times none the less!
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Stock 2011 gt500 11.16@124mph....It belongs to this svtperformance member: http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/member.php?u=53649


ps:I own a pully/tune 2011 Gt500 and am thinking of getting auto ZL-1 this summer..
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Maybe this ZL1 will calm the masses...just maybe
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