Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Redline Goods
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > General Camaro Forums > Chevy Camaro vs...

Chevy Camaro vs... Comparison of Chevy Camaro versus its competition. *NO STREET RACING STORIES*

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-13-2012, 02:53 PM   #1
treefrog1112
 
treefrog1112's Avatar
 
Drives: 2006 Honda Civic Si coupe
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Erie, PA
Posts: 19
Camaro SS vs 06 Civic SI (handling)

So i was driving my SI around yesterday. And i was having some fun whipping it around, it's a quite nibble car. And then it hit me, can the Camaro handle as good? will i be able to to whip a Camaro around corners and such like i do my civic si?

How does my car compare to the Camaro SS? I've never driving RWD, a V8 or a larger car

the SI specs:
I have 18"x7.5 rims with kumho ecsta 4x (super high performance all seasons)
helical limited slip differential
0.90g (8.8 m/s2) of lateral acceleration on the skid pad
Slalom, 6 x 100 ft. (mph)67.80
60-0 mph (ft.)122.7
2,877 LBS
I have no kind of stability control on the 2006
__________________
treefrog1112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2012, 03:04 PM   #2
malave7567

 
malave7567's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 795
The Camaro handles just as well, or even better. I drove a 2006 SI very hard many times (my brother's car), and while it can be fun and sporty, I was a little disappointed. Guess I expected more out of it. Seems a bit sloppy stock, but has potential for improvement for sure.

I would say even a stock SS in the right hands would out handle it, especially with a rear sway upgrade (very quick and easy upgrade). InsideLine had tested the 2010 SS at 0.88g with 68.6mph slalom. Remembering that the newer SS's have updated suspension and I would definitely say the SS handles better. Just have to learn how to drive a high-powered FR vehicle as opposed to a lesser-powered FF.
__________________
2013 Scion FR-S - current DD, after life circumstances made me get out of a Camaro
2014 Camaro 1LT, Red Rock Metallic, wife's car once we could get a Camaro again
malave7567 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2012, 09:35 AM   #3
matt55

 
matt55's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 SS AMB , mini revo
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Raleigh NC
Posts: 897
Quote:
Originally Posted by treefrog1112 View Post
So i was driving my SI around yesterday. And i was having some fun whipping it around, it's a quite nibble car. And then it hit me, can the Camaro handle as good? will i be able to to whip a Camaro around corners and such like i do my civic si?

How does my car compare to the Camaro SS? I've never driving RWD, a V8 or a larger car
No, not as nimble.
Ill list my last 3 car and give you a feel for what they are
Evo IX = scapel
Civic si 2008 = steak knife
2010 SS = butchers knife
__________________
Vararam , OBX and tune . 411/414 dynojet.
matt55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2012, 09:39 AM   #4
MichaelH
SOCAL HT5
 
MichaelH's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 BRM ZL1 M6
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 1,491
Quote:
Originally Posted by matt55 View Post
No, not as nimble.
Ill list my last 3 car and give you a feel for what they are
Evo IX = scapel
Civic si 2008 = steak knife
2010 SS = MACHETE haha
haha
__________________
2013 ZL1 M6 - Mods-in the works

Old vehicles
2010 CGM Camaro (sold)
Other Vehicles:
2008 Kawasaki ZX6R-115 RWHP in mid summer
2006 Chevy Trailblazer SS- For Sale; Lots of extras
MichaelH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2012, 09:53 AM   #5
The Stig
knows 2 facts about ducks
 
The Stig's Avatar
 
Drives: ...and they're both wrong
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: The HMS Invincible
Posts: 26,694
If you Pedderize your Camaro it handles like a straight razor.
__________________
Click to view my build thread
The Stig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2012, 12:22 PM   #6
L99CAMA2011


 
L99CAMA2011's Avatar
 
Drives: One of the baddest handling Gen 5s
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Masachusetts
Posts: 2,529
Quote:
Originally Posted by stieger View Post
If you Pedderize your Camaro it handles like a straight razor.
no joke.
L99CAMA2011 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2012, 12:28 PM   #7
midnighter
Account Suspended
 
Drives: nothing
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: a hole
Posts: 21,173
The only way I would lower mine is with the Pedder's system.
midnighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2012, 12:38 PM   #8
L99CAMA2011


 
L99CAMA2011's Avatar
 
Drives: One of the baddest handling Gen 5s
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Masachusetts
Posts: 2,529
Justice Pete kit makes our Camaro SS feels like it weights 3000lbs not kidding. Freaking phenomenal.
L99CAMA2011 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2012, 09:59 AM   #9
DarkneSS


 
DarkneSS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS 6MT
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Westchester, New York
Posts: 3,700
Ive driven an SI before. Are you lowered?

Basically the SI will feel more nimble and be more responsive to steering because of the weight difference. You do feel the weight in the Camaro but at the same time the weight is much more balanced.

Once you get used to the weight i think you will find its a much better handling car.

The biggest kicker for me and what you will notice is how much fwd/rwd effects handling.

Trying to power out of a corner with fwd is horrible, you lose so much power around turns because the car simply cant put it down. Rwd is SOOO much more smooth and you can really power yourself out of corners and through them.

You also dont get any of that terrible torque steer.

Despite almost 1000 pounds of weight difference, no one who knows their stuff would actually take an SI(stock) over even a 2010 V6 Camaro(stock) around a road course or track. The difference between fwd and rwd for handling is that serious.

Good luck getting your car! I think youll be extremely happy even if you get the 6 over your SI.
__________________
DarkneSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2012, 09:52 PM   #10
oldlugs
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2008 Bullitt + 2009 Shelby GT-500KR
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 193
Quote:
Originally Posted by treefrog1112 View Post
So i was driving my SI around yesterday. And i was having some fun whipping it around, it's a quite nibble car. And then it hit me, can the Camaro handle as good?..
Hate to tell you, but the light car will always feel more nimble. Since mass in motion tends to stay in motion... A heavy car will never "handle" as well as a light car. You can always improve road holding and ultimate grip, but the heavy car still won't be as nimble. Simple physics.
Want to feel real handling..? Drive something like an old Lotus that weighs under 2000 pounds. They stick like glue and are incredibly nimble... On 185 section tires!
oldlugs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2012, 04:04 PM   #11
treefrog1112
 
treefrog1112's Avatar
 
Drives: 2006 Honda Civic Si coupe
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Erie, PA
Posts: 19
my SI has a bone stock suspension. I would keep a camaro ss suspension stock also. I need a comfortable ride as it is my daily driver. plus girls hate it when you bounce all over the place.

you don't get torque steer out of an SI due to its lack or torque and LSD. okay maybe a little, but you have to try and notice it.

I don't think a 1000 lb heavier car will ever be as nimble as a lighter one.
__________________
treefrog1112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2012, 04:23 PM   #12
midnighter
Account Suspended
 
Drives: nothing
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: a hole
Posts: 21,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by treefrog1112 View Post
my SI has a bone stock suspension. I would keep a camaro ss suspension stock also. I need a comfortable ride as it is my daily driver. plus girls hate it when you bounce all over the place.

you don't get torque steer out of an SI due to its lack or torque and LSD. okay maybe a little, but you have to try and notice it.

I don't think a 1000 lb heavier car will ever be as nimble as a lighter one.
My '07 Civic Si 2dr I left the stock suspension. It rode great.
Name:  carbon fibre hood 022 sml.jpg
Views: 1731
Size:  198.2 KB

My '09 Civic Si 4dr I added Tein 1.5" drop springs and it rode rough and popped when I went over imperfections on the road. Annoying!
Name:  IMG_0423_edited-1 sml.jpg
Views: 942
Size:  137.0 KB

My Camaro suspension is staying stock!
midnighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2012, 06:30 PM   #13
08-G35s/6MT

 
08-G35s/6MT's Avatar
 
Drives: racecars
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: BMN
Posts: 1,788
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkneSS View Post
Ive driven an SI before. Are you lowered?

Basically the SI will feel more nimble and be more responsive to steering because of the weight difference. You do feel the weight in the Camaro but at the same time the weight is much more balanced.

Once you get used to the weight i think you will find its a much better handling car.

The biggest kicker for me and what you will notice is how much fwd/rwd effects handling.

Trying to power out of a corner with fwd is horrible, you lose so much power around turns because the car simply cant put it down. Rwd is SOOO much more smooth and you can really power yourself out of corners and through them.

You also dont get any of that terrible torque steer.

Despite almost 1000 pounds of weight difference, no one who knows their stuff would actually take an SI(stock) over even a 2010 V6 Camaro(stock) around a road course or track. The difference between fwd and rwd for handling is that serious.

Good luck getting your car! I think youll be extremely happy even if you get the 6 over your SI.
The only FWD car I would ever own would be a Prelude Type-SH with torque vectoring ATTS......
08-G35s/6MT is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Official: 2013 Camaro 1LE Performance Package: 426-hp, 1g cornering, under $40,000 MS3DALE Camaro 1LE Forum 1231 05-17-2014 05:47 AM
GM unveils Jay Leno Camaro, Camaro Synergy, Camaro Chroma, Camaro Dusk at SEMA irocnroll 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 101 02-27-2012 12:25 PM
Modern Camaro Performance - Lowest Prices Anywhere! PartsTaxi.com Sponsor Announcements / Giveaways / Contests 0 11-03-2010 10:50 AM
The DEFINITIVE EXPLANATION OF CAMARO SUSPENSION, ISSUES, AND UPGRADES Info@PeddersUSA.com Suspension / Brakes / Chassis 106 10-19-2009 06:08 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.