First ZL1 1/4 Mile Numbers.... (best of 12.04)

[RocketCutlass]

I forgot about that old thread I made. That brought back some memories and felt pretty good to have all that praise from everyone LOL

[Nmbr1gmfan]

I ran 12.48 with drag radials in a stock 05 GTO.

[bigrob301]

Such a sad day for us camaro guys all our hopes will be shattered when the blue oval guys release their 2013 pride and joy. GM what did you do with all our bail out money? I guess I'll have to go old school on them 1bad68

[OldScoolCamaro]

Originally Posted by bigrob301

Such a sad day for us camaro guys all our hopes will be shattered when the blue oval guys release their 2013 pride and joy. GM what did you do with all our bail out money? I guess I'll have to go old school on them 1bad68

...well, I guess you have heard the old saying...do what ya gotta do....

[xx_ED_xx]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

I guess I'm just stupid.

Trust me I wont argue that...

[SUX2BU]

Guy at my local track was running mid 13s all day long in his ZL1, LOL.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by SUX2BU

Guy at my local track was running mid 13s all day long in his ZL1, LOL.

These things aren't very fast... but that's just rediculous...

[nanokpsi]

Originally Posted by tooslow

Does anybody really doubt that there will be some ZL1's in the high eleven's in pure stock trim? Really? That's a quick car by any measurement regardless of what the new GT500 does.

+1
Granted, it at tape drag radials nut anyone with a modded gt500 knows they need drag radials to make the car fun in daily driving.
Honestly, I am disappointed by the ford guys. The z is on par with the ore 2013 gt500, so there is no need to rag on it. Granted some of the comments from Al O BEG for r shit talking, but he did what is expected of him.

[Bob Cosby]

Originally Posted by nanokpsi

+1
Granted, it at tape drag radials nut anyone with a modded gt500 knows they need drag radials to make the car fun in daily driving.
Honestly, I am disappointed by the ford guys. The z is on par with the ore 2013 gt500, so there is no need to rag on it. Granted some of the comments from Al O BEG for r shit talking, but he did what is expected of him.

Uh...what?

[Uneducated Guess]

Originally Posted by nanokpsi

+1
Granted, it at tape drag radials nut anyone with a modded gt500 knows they need drag radials to make the car fun in daily driving.
Honestly, I am disappointed by the ford guys. The z is on par with the ore 2013 gt500, so there is no need to rag on it. Granted some of the comments from Al O BEG for r shit talking, but he did what is expected of him.

Is there a rule against drunk posting?

[G8GT4now]

Mid 13s? Someone needs more practice using launch control!

[HPT BANDIT]

Originally Posted by nanokpsi

Honestly, I am disappointed by the ford guys. The z is on par with the 2011 gt500, so there is no need to rag on it.

Fixed it for you

[Bob Cosby]

Originally Posted by mlee

...but it's not an 11.9999 it's a 12.02... what part don't you understand..

Just noticed this post. Rather unrelated, but the very first time my old 88 Mustang LX Coupe got into the 12's was a 12.999 run - I didn't care if there were 10 million 9's on the end of that 12 - it was a 12 second run! The very next run was a 13.000, and I didn't break into the 12's the rest of that day.

And please keep in mind....this was 1988 (many of you weren't even born)...12's were pretty quick then...

[SUX2BU]

Originally Posted by Bob Cosby

And please keep in mind....this was 1988 (many of you weren't even born)...12's were pretty quick then...

LOL I don't think there are many <24 year olds on this site. I would assume most people on here are in their 40s or older.

[Bob Cosby]

Eh, actual age, or the age they act?

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Bob Cosby

Just noticed this post. Rather unrelated, but the very first time my old 88 Mustang LX Coupe got into the 12's was a 12.999 run - I didn't care if there were 10 million 9's on the end of that 12 - it was a 12 second run! The very next run was a 13.000, and I didn't break into the 12's the rest of that day.

And please keep in mind....this was 1988 (many of you weren't even born)...12's were pretty quick then...

I totally agree with you... but that post you quoted was TOTALLY scarcastic... you would need to read all the previous posts to understand.

[Bob Cosby]

No real matter....just brought back an old memory.

[Oilfieldtrash]

Hey Folks,
been hanging-out here a bit but never posted. Seems to me the silliness has gotten out-of-hand about this car . As an 'old dude', I've been driving the Generals' cars for years (still miss my first 'bought new' bad ride, a '70 Olds W 31 bought right off the showroom floor!). I think the small number of Bowtie fans moaning about this car should think back to the late '70's & 80's when you really couldn't buy a 'hot car' off the floor - you had to do it yourself if you wanted more horsepower.
I was sick when the last generation of F-bodies went away (still have my '01 WS6 ) and wasn't sure we'd see anything to replace them. Now, we've got more than one choice from the General. Sure, it's not like it was in the 'good ol' days' and it never will be - those days are gone forever and they ain't coming back. Current politics will eventually make these cars extinct, maybe sooner than we think. If you have one, enjoy every minute of it while you can - your children may just have to hear your stories to understand what it was like - they may not have the opportunity you do.
Forgive my ramblings...
Oilfieldtrash, over-and-out

P.S. I order mine next spring

[xx_ED_xx]

Originally Posted by Oilfieldtrash

Hey Folks,
been hanging-out here a bit but never posted. Seems to me the silliness has gotten out-of-hand about this car . As an 'old dude', I've been driving the Generals' cars for years (still miss my first 'bought new' bad ride, a '70 Olds W 31 bought right off the showroom floor!). I think the small number of Bowtie fans moaning about this car should think back to the late '70's & 80's when you really couldn't buy a 'hot car' off the floor - you had to do it yourself if you wanted more horsepower.
I was sick when the last generation of F-bodies went away (still have my '01 WS6 ) and wasn't sure we'd see anything to replace them. Now, we've got more than one choice from the General. Sure, it's not like it was in the 'good ol' days' and it never will be - those days are gone forever and they ain't coming back. Current politics will eventually make these cars extinct, maybe sooner than we think. If you have one, enjoy every minute of it while you can - your children may just have to hear your stories to understand what it was like - they may not have the opportunity you do.
Forgive my ramblings...
Oilfieldtrash, over-and-out

P.S. I order mine next spring

Agreed and i fear within the next 5 years our choices and ability to mod will diminish a bunch.

[kbar4782]

I agree and is the exact reason I jumped on the 2012 ZL1. Before long the government will want everyting running on leaves. Trust me guys, this won't last forever so we need to enjoy it while it lasts.

[RoketRdr]

Originally Posted by Oilfieldtrash

Hey Folks,
been hanging-out here a bit but never posted. Seems to me the silliness has gotten out-of-hand about this car . As an 'old dude', I've been driving the Generals' cars for years (still miss my first 'bought new' bad ride, a '70 Olds W 31 bought right off the showroom floor!). I think the small number of Bowtie fans moaning about this car should think back to the late '70's & 80's when you really couldn't buy a 'hot car' off the floor - you had to do it yourself if you wanted more horsepower.
I was sick when the last generation of F-bodies went away (still have my '01 WS6 ) and wasn't sure we'd see anything to replace them. Now, we've got more than one choice from the General. Sure, it's not like it was in the 'good ol' days' and it never will be - those days are gone forever and they ain't coming back. Current politics will eventually make these cars extinct, maybe sooner than we think. If you have one, enjoy every minute of it while you can - your children may just have to hear your stories to understand what it was like - they may not have the opportunity you do.
Forgive my ramblings...
Oilfieldtrash, over-and-out

P.S. I order mine next spring

Exactly! I've been in the oil/gas industry for over 20 years and with the policies the current Obama administration is pushing through the EPA the days of the American 'Hotrod' and 'Muscle Car' is coming to an end. Today we have the most powerful Camaro's, Corvettes, and Mustangs ever produced. You guys better enjoy them while you can because their days are numbered. This is part of the reason why a lot of us got into 'hot rodding' our diesel trucks because they will never go away. Over the next 5-7 years the gas powered hot rod will become an endangered species. Drive em like you stole em and stop complaining that they ONLY run low 12's. Its the fastest showroom Camaro ever built and it was purposely designed to shine on the road coarse. If its a fraction of a second slower than the Mustang at the drag strip it's still a major accomplishment for a 'road course' car. No one leaves their car's stock anyway so who cares what it does out of the box. I remember the days when we thought 280hp was huge and breaking into the 14's was something. Appreciate what we have available in these fine cars because the government is working hard at doing away with them.

[Oilfieldtrash]

Well said, RoketRdr! The times, they are a-changin'!
31 years for me. Packing it in next year

[PQ]

Originally Posted by SUX2BU

LOL I don't think there are many <24 year olds on this site. I would assume most people on here are in their 40s or older.

And to do a poll the over 40s would skip it.

I was 18 in 1988 and headed to the military. My old 73' Z28 was sold away and couldn't touch 12s but was pretty fast for my young ass. LOL

Originally Posted by RoketRdr

Exactly! I've been in the oil/gas industry for over 20 years and with the policies the current Obama administration is pushing through the EPA the days of the American 'Hotrod' and 'Muscle Car' is coming to an end. Today we have the most powerful Camaro's, Corvettes, and Mustangs ever produced. You guys better enjoy them while you can because their days are numbered. This is part of the reason why a lot of us got into 'hot rodding' our diesel trucks because they will never go away. Over the next 5-7 years the gas powered hot rod will become an endangered species. Drive em like you stole em and stop complaining that they ONLY run low 12's. Its the fastest showroom Camaro ever built and it was purposely designed to shine on the road coarse. If its a fraction of a second slower than the Mustang at the drag strip it's still a major accomplishment for a 'road course' car. No one leaves their car's stock anyway so who cares what it does out of the box. I remember the days when we thought 280hp was huge and breaking into the 14's was something. Appreciate what we have available in these fine cars because the government is working hard at doing away with them.

I agree with you. Problem is that I've heard this same argument for years and years. I think we have plenty of time. Now our grandkids might be screwed, but I can see 10 more years of this.

However, they can not keep upping the factory HP numbers. And I think GM will end up the winner with the ZL1 because of the 'sideways' direction they are taking the competition.

[TheReaper]

Originally Posted by Oilfieldtrash

Well said, RoketRdr! The times, they are a-changin'!
31 years for me. Packing it in next year

I have 38 years in the Exploration part of the O&G business so I must really be old.

[RoketRdr]

Originally Posted by PQ

Time will tell.

I agree with you and you and I are obviously on the same side. I'm just being optimistic. 3 years ago I bet that the Camaro would not see 5 years worth. Not only was I wrong but they are talking about a 6th Gen and with power. The new Mustang that still isn't here is producing 650+ hp. I can see a few more years of this. And with the change of administration even a little longer.

Oh, and expect these posts to be deleted. LOL

Yes sir...I completely agree.

Originally Posted by TheReaper

I have 38 years in the Exploration part of the O&G business so I must really be old.

Old is a state of mind. I refuse to let that word come out of my mouth even though my daughters like to use the term.





The point of our posts is to help everyone understand that we may not be able to continue pursuing our passion whether it be a Camaro, Corvette, Mustang or whatever gets the heart pumping. Its no longer going to be a 'right'. These are the most powerful and technologically advanced cars GM and Ford have ever built. Enjoy them and stop complaining because it ran a 12.04 instead of an 11.99. Enjoy the cars because at the end of the day you wrote a check so you could get a smile on YOUR face no matter what anyone else thinks. None of us designed or built the cars so do you really have any bragging rights if your stock ZL1 beat a stock GT500 or the other way around? And the car that ran a 12.04 at one track may run 11.80 at another. There are tons of factors involved and a high horsepower car remaining consistent day-to-day or track-to-track just isn't possible due to the laws of physics and driver error. Higher elevation, ambient and track temps, surface preparation, driver skill and amount of time behind the wheel of that particular machine all play factors in what the clock says at the end of the 1320. Relax fellas...the ZL1 will improve its drag strip times once more is known about the car, the conditions are right and an experienced driver has spent some time behind the wheel. Hennessey and LMR both recently ran the cars at tracks on opposite sides of Houston with similar results while the temps where in the 90's, the engines haven't been broken in and the drivers haven't had time to clock some hours getting accustomed to how the car wants to be driven. Everything will come together...just be patient. I think the ZL1 and GT500 are both going to be very closely matched cars.