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Old 04-22-2012, 10:16 PM   #326
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no so stop asking
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:19 PM   #327
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Why do you want one, that is the past, time to move on JMHO.......................................... JRJ
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:47 PM   #328
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Why do you want one, that is the past, time to move on JMHO.......................................... JRJ
then why are you in this section? lol. if we are stuck in the past then we must be a lost cause.
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:19 PM   #329
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I don't get him either....move on from what? Wheres his line of logic, if he even has one I would like him to articulate it.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:18 PM   #331
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...if you are ever in Jersey Clyde...look me up....heh-heh...a twistin' we will go...
So where in NJ? I have a friend that lives near White House Station, NJ.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:47 PM   #332
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:49 PM   #333
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Who we talking about? I know I've been arguing lately with people. lol. kind of in my nature when bored out of my mind and tired of swimming in the gulf.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:50 PM   #334
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Who we talking about? I know I've been arguing lately with people. lol. kind of in my nature when bored out of my mind and tired of swimming in the gulf.
Definitely not you, but the ones your combating.
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^ It's a diry job, but somebody's got to do it...LOL...
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:54 PM   #336
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Notice they don't stay around long.
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:59 PM   #337
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Who we talking about? I know I've been arguing lately with people. lol. kind of in my nature when bored out of my mind and tired of swimming in the gulf.
Gulf of Mexico?

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Old 04-24-2012, 12:01 AM   #338
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:16 AM   #339
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Gulf of Mexico?
yep. that'd be it. off the cost of South America.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:36 AM   #340
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What GM needs to address is the huge gap between the SS & ZL1. 1LE is just a track pack SS really, from what I read on the release info of the 1LE is that the 1LE is going to leave things to be desired compared to a Boss 302 in the performance department. Better suspension and such is great but the HP has to be better as well, maybe not 550 hp worth like the ZL1 but at least 460-500 range.
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:42 PM   #341
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What GM needs to address is the huge gap between the SS & ZL1. 1LE is just a track pack SS really, from what I read on the release info of the 1LE is that the 1LE is going to leave things to be desired compared to a Boss 302 in the performance department. Better suspension and such is great but the HP has to be better as well, maybe not 550 hp worth like the ZL1 but at least 460-500 range.
I think your assessment is pretty spot on, although I admit I'm not paying really close attention to what current Mustang #'s are. With the 1LE being the only Camaro currently made with a manual only and the heavy duty parts where they are, I believe GM is saying to the buyers half-serious about taking it to a drag or a road course... "Here is a great baseline starting point..have fun modding the crap out of it."
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I think your assessment is pretty spot on, although I admit I'm not paying really close attention to what current Mustang #'s are. With the 1LE being the only Camaro currently made with a manual only and the heavy duty parts where they are, I believe GM is saying to the buyers half-serious about taking it to a drag or a road course... "Here is a great baseline starting point..have fun modding the crap out of it."
I'd say it's for the guy/girl who wants more than an SS without having to mod themselves, while still having it all be warranted.
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I think your assessment is pretty spot on, although I admit I'm not paying really close attention to what current Mustang #'s are. With the 1LE being the only Camaro currently made with a manual only and the heavy duty parts where they are, I believe GM is saying to the buyers half-serious about taking it to a drag or a road course... "Here is a great baseline starting point..have fun modding the crap out of it."
,,,I don't believe Chevy is "half serious" about anything, it's a need to know basis....one can formulate their own opinions respectively.
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I'd say it's for the guy/girl who wants more than an SS without having to mod themselves, while still having it all be warranted.
...at an enhanced track level of performance beyond that of the SS....
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:31 AM   #344
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What GM needs to address is the huge gap between the SS & ZL1. 1LE is just a track pack SS really, from what I read on the release info of the 1LE is that the 1LE is going to leave things to be desired compared to a Boss 302 in the performance department. Better suspension and such is great but the HP has to be better as well, maybe not 550 hp worth like the ZL1 but at least 460-500 range.
Don't underestimate the 1LE. There are a number of changes. So if you took a 1LE added an LS7, and slapped on a badge you would have a Z28. Some might want the ZL1 front brakes too.

So far from the info GM is releasing the 1LE is just as fast or faster than a Boss 302 LS on a race track. But of course we will need to see the real numbers.

At the drags the suspension changes may give the SS a tenth or two. So the Boss will still be king of the drags.

In the real world 5.0 Mustangs and SSes are competitive at the drags. The 5.0 is capable of better numbers, but the 302 is more peaky than the Chevy engines. It's a driver race, with good drivers in both the Mustang has an edge. Of course the LS7 would fix that.

One problem I see with the proposed Z28 is that it would perform pretty close to a ZL1 given it's 200 pound advantage. Those two cars would cannibalize each other's sales and most likely would only be say maybe $5k apart. Of course if you want big HP potential there would only be one choice.
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