drove a mustang, hate my camaro now

[cbass]

Originally Posted by NoWRX

I'm just curious, did you drive an auto V6 Mustang?

The '11+ V6 autos are dogs with the 2.73 axle ratio. To compare one of those to a V6 Camaro is probably a bit lopsided.

I don't think he did. He said the gears ground a few times. That implies it was a stick.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

Sounds like you were insecure about your little v6. Line yours up vs a 2011-2012 Mustang...nahhh, don't do it, then you'll hate your car even more.

I don't understand this comment. He compared V6 to V6....why use the word "little"? I'm sorry but these kinds of comments don't really help your image either.

Ever learn to keep a comment to yourself.....no?

Originally Posted by NoWRX

I'm just curious, did you drive an auto V6 Mustang?

The '11+ V6 autos are dogs with the 2.73 axle ratio. To compare one of those to a V6 Camaro is probably a bit lopsided.

Now here is a helpful statement that I can agree with.

[Stealthpanda]

Honestly, comes with the territory, KMPrenger. Cheap shots like that dont suprise me. Its no different than the Mustang crowd coming in here to protect there Mustang. Do not misconstrue the previous statement. Any talk of a V6 being cool or better than anything really... honestly, attracts the zealotry of the V8 crowd/Mustang crowd respectively. No disrespect to any parties. Just fact, unfortunately. Cheers all.

[gearhead08]

I like tacos

[brandonrr]

Originally Posted by NoWRX

I'm just curious, did you drive an auto V6 Mustang?

The '11+ V6 autos are dogs with the 2.73 axle ratio. To compare one of those to a V6 Camaro is probably a bit lopsided.

it was a stick. the only options that had been added to it had been the 3.31 ratio rear end and floor mats. my camaro is 100% base model with only the floor mats added. by comparison, my camaro has the 3.27 ratio rear end, so if anything, the mustang would have a slight advantage in gearing.

a little off topic:
a came across a dodge challenger earlier today when i was at the hobby shop and was challenged to a race after he found out i drive a v6. his car was a v6 with CAI and some sort of exhaust upgrade. my car is bone stock.

he led me to a secluded, private road (or at least he told me it was private) and we had a mini drag race. the road wasn't very long, so i only got up to about 75mph, but i beat him by a couple car-lengths. i'm pretty sure he drove an auto, but my shifts weren't exactly perfect either.

considering the challenger has 304hp stock and is heavier than even the camaro (about 4000lbs), i was pretty confident i would win, but turned down his offer to place a bet in case he had more mods than he claimed, but it was fun and we both admired each others' cars. i am a fan of the challengers as well, but not as much as our beautiful chevy machines.

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by gearhead08

I like tacos

I prefer the pink ones

[Stealthpanda]

[camaro_RS]

Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

Secretary's cars both of them. ;-)

This is true......but my car looks a thousand times better than a secretary's car!!!! Literally....a thousand...times better.

[SimpleGreen]

I test drove a 2012 Ford Mustang before I bought my Camaro. It was the MCA Edition with the billet grille, 19" wheels, etc. It was loaded with leather seats, connectivity package, ambient lighting, etc. It was a 6 speed manual car.

Personally, I like the looks of a Mustang. It was a great looking car...Performance White w/ gun metal wheels. The interior was no worse than my Camaro. Looked/felt fine with really nice seats. If anything I appreciated the fact that Ford put a real shift knob in it with the shift pattern wrote on top as opposed to that nasty plastic lump Chevrolet stacked on theirs.

It was comfy, drove well, though the steering felt kind of funny because it was electric assist. The trans shifted OK. It was closer to rowing a shovel through a wheelbarrow full of gravel than anything. I did like that it felt smaller than the Camaro and I had a better view all around me.

Came home and did research. Between the manual trans problems (and the autos being dogs) and the oddball engine ticks, electric steering assist, etc I passed on the deal. I felt more at home in the Camaro. I always had Chevrolets. I also liked its more unique interior and exterior. A week later I bought my 2012 1LT Camaro. And I LOVE it. I'm also happy to have less gizmos to break in my Camaro which has less options.

However, I'm not going to go out of my way bad mouthing Mustangs or Challengers. I love them all and enjoy seeing them on the road. I think we are all part of a bigger 'club'.

[MichaelH]

Originally Posted by Deki

Your modded LT runs what a stock 2011 Mustang runs, so if you destroyed one, it was a 4.0, not the 3.7.

You are obviously smoking something mine is def alot faster than a stock 2012 v6 mustang and I know what they look like I'm not an idiot. And I wasnt dissing on it I'm just replying to cobras comment about pretty much making a remark against the v6 bc apparently all camaros still can't get along and I even have a very powerful v8 car

[Drake Heminger]

haha u got me! The exterior and interior is so much better looking that a Mustang!

[Drake Heminger]

Originally Posted by MichaelH

You are obviously smoking something mine is def alot faster than a stock 2012 v6 mustang and I know what they look like I'm not an idiot. And I wasnt dissing on it I'm just replying to cobras comment about pretty much making a remark against the v6 bc apparently all camaros still can't get along and I even have a very powerful v8 car

Your car is fast and looks good man! a good friend of mine has a v6 man and its fast!!!

[brandonrr]

Originally Posted by SimpleGreen

I test drove a 2012 Ford Mustang before I bought my Camaro. It was the MCA Edition with the billet grille, 19" wheels, etc. It was loaded with leather seats, connectivity package, ambient lighting, etc. It was a 6 speed manual car.

Personally, I like the looks of a Mustang. It was a great looking car...Performance White w/ gun metal wheels. The interior was no worse than my Camaro. Looked/felt fine with really nice seats. If anything I appreciated the fact that Ford put a real shift knob in it with the shift pattern wrote on top as opposed to that nasty plastic lump Chevrolet stacked on theirs.

It was comfy, drove well, though the steering felt kind of funny because it was electric assist. The trans shifted OK. It was closer to rowing a shovel through a wheelbarrow full of gravel than anything. I did like that it felt smaller than the Camaro and I had a better view all around me.

Came home and did research. Between the manual trans problems (and the autos being dogs) and the oddball engine ticks, electric steering assist, etc I passed on the deal. I felt more at home in the Camaro. I always had Chevrolets. I also liked its more unique interior and exterior. A week later I bought my 2012 1LT Camaro. And I LOVE it. I'm also happy to have less gizmos to break in my Camaro which has less options.

However, I'm not going to go out of my way bad mouthing Mustangs or Challengers. I love them all and enjoy seeing them on the road. I think we are all part of a bigger 'club'.

i'm not bad-mouthing the mustang. i actually love the 2011+ mustang GTs and those new 5.0 engines that go in them. i just prefer the driving style, looks, and feel of the camaro. i have not driven an SS, but there's a reason for that. i can't afford it and i didn't want to disappoint myself getting back into a V6. when i mentioned that dodge challenger in the other post, i even mentioned that i was admiring it. i do not feel the need to dog the others to make me feel better about my car. in the mustang's case, i just pointed out what i noticed about the car. I actually prefer the Ford brand name over anything GM, but chevy really did well on the camaro. it was the looks that had me; everything else is bonus.

as far as mustangs go, i like the GTs, and don't care for the v6 at all. Chevy did a lot better with their 2012 V6 (can't compare the 2010-2011, cuz i haven't driven them). well, that last part isn't entirely true. i test drove a 2011 V6 last year, but the salesman was a very uptight older gentleman and told me ahead of time that i would not be "testing the power".

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by MichaelH

You are obviously smoking something mine is def alot faster than a stock 2012 v6 mustang and I know what they look like I'm not an idiot. And I wasnt dissing on it I'm just replying to cobras comment about pretty much making a remark against the v6 bc apparently all camaros still can't get along and I even have a very powerful v8 car

Well if the shoe fits

If you did know what they look like you would know that the 2005-10 Mustang had the 4.0L V6 while the 2011+ got the 3.7. You would also know that the 2010 and 2011+ look identical save one tiny difference.... Just saying

Also gonna have to say to the OP, the Base Mustang Interior is absolute crap... You don't get the good interior unless you pay more. Similar to not getting the good headlights without paying more on the Camaro...

[brandonrr]

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

Well if the shoe fits

If you did know what they look like you would know that the 2005-10 Mustang had the 4.0L V6 while the 2011+ got the 3.7. You would also know that the 2010 and 2011+ look identical save one tiny difference.... Just saying

Also gonna have to say to the OP, the Base Mustang Interior is absolute crap... You don't get the good interior unless you pay more. Similar to not getting the good headlights without paying more on the Camaro...

another thing about the 2005-2010 mustangs with the 4.0L engine...

the 3.7L engine makes "305hp" (put in quotes because i think it's a bit exxagerated)
the 4.0L engine makes 210hp and cannot fairly be compared with any 5th gen camaro. the way they drive can best be descibed as a typical, commuter car. at least the 2011+ 3.7L engines in the newer mustangs make a decent amount of power, though it is mostly in the higher RPMs. i know our camaros don't get really "fast" until the higher RPMs, but this effect is more pronounced in the mustangs.


the whole point of this test drive i did on the mustang was to give it a fair chance to be compared to the camaro. there are still a few things that were better on the mustang than the camaro:
-the engine idle was quieter and sooo smooth and clean
-the power steering in the mustang assists more than the camaro. very little effort is needed to turn the wheel in the mustang. (i prefer the camaro's steering feel, but some like the easier steering)
-the ride was very plush and bumps in the road were instantly less noticeable. the mustang rode like butter, smooth as it gets for a coupe. (once again, i like the firmer ride of the camaro)

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by brandonrr

another thing about the 2005-2010 mustangs with the 4.0L engine...

the 3.7L engine makes "305hp" (put in quotes because i think it's a bit exxagerated)
the 4.0L engine makes 210hp and cannot fairly be compared with any 5th gen camaro. the way they drive can best be descibed as a typical, commuter car. at least the 2011+ 3.7L engines in the newer mustangs make a decent amount of power, thought it is mostly in the higher RPMs. i know our camaros don't get really "fast" until the higher RPMs, but this effect is more pronounced in the mustangs.


the whole point of this test drive i did on the mustang was to give it a fair chance to be compared to the camaro. there are still a few things that were better on the mustang than the camaro:
-the engine idle was quieter and sooo smooth and clean
-the power steering in the mustang assists more than the camaro. very little effort is needed to turn the wheel in the mustang. (i prefer the camaro's steering feel, but some like the easier steering)
-the ride was very plush and bumps in the road were instantly less noticeable. the mustang rode like butter, smooth as it gets for a coupe. (once again, i like the firmer ride of the camaro)

Out of curiosity did you try adjusting the steering feel? I can't speak for the 2010's but I know you can change between Comfort, Standard and Sport. That would drastically affect steering feel. I know the GT500 feels just like my Camaro when it's in Standard but Sport mode and it feel closer to a true sports car. The advantage of EPSA it's great when adjusted, sucks when it goes out....

[MichaelH]

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

Well if the shoe fits

If you did know what they look like you would know that the 2005-10 Mustang had the 4.0L V6 while the 2011+ got the 3.7. You would also know that the 2010 and 2011+ look identical save one tiny difference.... Just saying

Also gonna have to say to the OP, the Base Mustang Interior is absolute crap... You don't get the good interior unless you pay more. Similar to not getting the good headlights without paying more on the Camaro...

The 3.7 has dual exhaust big give away and when did I ever say I didn't know the difference or gave the slightest hint at it I actually know alot about alot of vehicles it's a hobby of mine

[MichaelH]

Originally Posted by Drake Heminger

Your car is fast and looks good man! a good friend of mine has a v6 man and its fast!!!

Thank you man wish I had that ZL1 of yours

[Deki]

Originally Posted by MichaelH

You are obviously smoking something mine is def alot faster than a stock 2012 v6 mustang and I know what they look like I'm not an idiot. And I wasnt dissing on it I'm just replying to cobras comment about pretty much making a remark against the v6 bc apparently all camaros still can't get along and I even have a very powerful v8 car

Faster than an auto 2.73 geared 2012...yes. Just by looking at the v6 fast list they are barely in the mid 13s, running about the same times as a stock manual 3.7 and trapping the same. I'm on a drug called reality. Unless you're FI'd you're not "destroying" anything. You might edge it out, but not by much.

Originally Posted by brandonrr

another thing about the 2005-2010 mustangs with the 4.0L engine...

the 3.7L engine makes "305hp" (put in quotes because i think it's a bit exxagerated)

It's SAE rated, how can it be exaggerated? And stock for stock it beats the 5th gen v6 by a healthy amount in time and trap speed.

[E.T.]

The 'stangs may be a tenth or two faster, but in real life, driving around on the streets, that don't mean much. The Camaro is better looking, and the 'stangs are a dime a dozen. I can't go 2 blocks without seeing one.

I do like that the Mustang has more performance options from the factory (gears, for example) and that they are lighter.

[MichaelH]

Originally Posted by Deki

Faster than an auto 2.73 geared 2012...yes. Just by looking at the v6 fast list they are barely in the mid 13s, running about the same times as a stock manual 3.7 and trapping the same. I'm on a drug called reality. Unless you're FI'd you're not "destroying" anything. You might edge it out, but not by much.



It's SAE rated, how can it be exaggerated? And stock for stock it beats the 5th gen v6 by a healthy amount in time and trap speed.

I don't know what reality you have but mid 13's and low 14 to very high 13's is a pretty big margin and not everyone posts there times up also. Sorry but a stock 3.7 is slightly faster than a stock 3.6

[Stealthpanda]

Originally Posted by Deki

Faster than an auto 2.73 geared 2012...yes. Just by looking at the v6 fast list they are barely in the mid 13s, running about the same times as a stock manual 3.7 and trapping the same. I'm on a drug called reality. Unless you're FI'd you're not "destroying" anything. You might edge it out, but not by much.



It's SAE rated, how can it be exaggerated? And stock for stock it beats the 5th gen v6 by a healthy amount in time and trap speed.

I respect you as a Mustang owner on a Camaro forum, but you get a little bent out of shape a little too quickly in a lot of threads you post in. Don't take that the wrong way, I realize it takes a lot to be the "1%" but you kinda dog these V6 camaros like they are extremely far off from the V6 mustang in stats and 1/4 mile times. Idk.. its what I take from your posts. Cheers, and no disrespect.

[429ci]

Comparing V6's? Lol really? V6 cars are for MPG's not for going fast.

[Stealthpanda]

Originally Posted by 429ci

Comparing V6's? Lol really? V6 cars are for MPG's not for going fast.

You are not funny. You are not a snowflake. Go troll 4chan. Thanks!

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by 429ci

Comparing V6's? Lol really? V6 cars are for MPG's not for going fast.