Hey GM

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by General Lee

I'm not a troll, I'm a camaro guy.
I'm just wondering why you guys are so dedicated and spend so much time and effort discussing a car that doesn't exist?
A Z/28 would be cool, but the ZL1 is the king of the hill.
Have all of you guys owned a Z/28 before, and want to re-live the past?

Much better way to ask.

You could take some time to look through the different threads in this section and find the answer...
I'll simply say that what we want is what the Z28 was originally built to be, a track (not dragging) ready street car. It's not so much the name it's what it stand for...hence the name.

[wildpaws]

Originally Posted by General Lee

I'm not a troll, I'm a camaro guy.
I'm just wondering why you guys are so dedicated and spend so much time and effort discussing a car that doesn't exist?
A Z/28 would be cool, but the ZL1 is the king of the hill.
Have all of you guys owned a Z/28 before, and want to re-live the past?

Obviously you don't get it, and that's OK! You're quite free to let us wallow in whatever we're wallowing in, nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read this forum/threads. Since you don't get it and I'm tired of explaining it to the thousands of non-believers that have come here......See Ya!!
Clyde

[Gramps69Z]

CLYDE!.......be nice.
General.....to many reasons not to have a 5th gen. Z/28.
Have faith?

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by wildpaws

Obviously you don't get it, and that's OK! You're quite free to let us wallow in whatever we're wallowing in, nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read this forum/threads. Since you don't get it and I'm tired of explaining it to the thousands of non-believers that have come here......See Ya!!
Clyde

Yes be nice.....er.........errrrrrr

He just doesn't understand your and others passion for the venerable Z28. I don't personally feel the same as you but you do know that I respect your passion for this great and historic car. And I wouldn't kick one out of my garage for eating crackers

Hopefully there will be another to capture and fuel the passion for those that haven't had the joyous experience.

[wildpaws]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Yes be nice.....er.........errrrrrr

He just doesn't understand your and others passion for the venerable Z28. I don't personally feel the same as you but you do know that I respect your passion for this great and historic car. And I wouldn't kick one out of my garage for eating crackers

Hopefully there will be another to capture and fuel the passion for those that haven't had the joyous experience.

But I was being nice, I simply stated that he didn't understand and that was OK, I don't go baiting in the SS and ZL1 forums and I would appreciate the same courtesy here.
Clyde

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by wildpaws

But I was being nice, I simply stated that he didn't understand and that was OK, I don't go baiting in the SS and ZL1 forums and I would appreciate the same courtesy here.
Clyde

A more than fair request

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by wildpaws

But I was being nice, I simply stated that he didn't understand and that was OK, I don't go baiting in the SS and ZL1 forums and I would appreciate the same courtesy here.
Clyde

Exactly. They hit n' run. They ask, but don't want an answer...they're...Trolls.

[OldScoolCamaro]

Originally Posted by General Lee

I'm not a troll, I'm a camaro guy.
I'm just wondering why you guys are so dedicated and spend so much time and effort discussing a car that doesn't exist?
A Z/28 would be cool, but the ZL1 is the king of the hill.
Have all of you guys owned a Z/28 before, and want to re-live the past?

Yes, yes, and yes....LOL. we are 6 OG's...., and a few younger guys that get it..., any follow up questions about why will be answered with yes....any problem with that? Is it not our perogative?

[LOWDOWN]

For those interested in the implications of losing weight, vehicle-wise, there's a great read in the new June '12 issue of Automobile Magazine outlining the measures taken with the Benz 550SL. Torsional Rigidity up 20%, 165 added lb. of safety engineering, 275 lb. NET LOSS in Curb Weight while growing in size and adding a twin-turbo V8...

Answer? Only 8% of the structure is STEEL, and that is largely HSS in the windshield frame and its support system.

Weight can disappear, but it won't leave with an inexpensive result.

[General Lee]

I gotta give you guys this.
You're hardcore about a Z/28.
Hopefully they make you one, and you can stop dreaming.
I'd never wandered int the Z/28 area before, and was just asking what all the fuss was about whan the car doesn't exist.
I'll leave you to yourselves.
I really do hope they make you one.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by General Lee

I gotta give you guys this.
You're hardcore about a Z/28.
Hopefully they make you one, and you can stop dreaming.
I'd never wandered int the Z/28 area before, and was just asking what all the fuss was about whan the car doesn't exist.
I'll leave you to yourselves.
I really do hope they make you one.

Thanks Dude!

[wildpaws]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

For those interested in the implications of losing weight, vehicle-wise, there's a great read in the new June '12 issue of Automobile Magazine outlining the measures taken with the Benz 550SL. Torsional Rigidity up 20%, 165 added lb. of safety engineering, 275 lb. NET LOSS in Curb Weight while growing in size and adding a twin-turbo V8...

Answer? Only 8% of the structure is STEEL, and that is largely HSS in the windshield frame and its support system.

Weight can disappear, but it won't leave with an inexpensive result.

And I think we will see some of that same kind of engineering on the 6th gen. Camaro based on what we've seen so far with the Cadillac ATS.
Clyde

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Keep in mind the current Zeta architecture was developed (starting in '99) for introduction in 2006 and was a flexible platform able to be built in varying wheelbases and overall lengths. The Gen-5 Camaro version was about the smallest version built. So its emphasis, and therefore structure, was intended for generally larger versions than the Camaro...up to 118" WB (6" more than Camaro).

Going to the new-Gen smaller Alpha platform will, all by itself, save some weight BEFORE implementing "new age" weight-conscious measures I'm sure we'll see more of with CAFE '16 ever-present. As suggested by the Caddie ATS data, V6 Camaro models around 3,400 lbs. sound likely...and very encouraging.

[Gramps69Z]

Originally Posted by General Lee

I gotta give you guys this.
You're hardcore about a Z/28.
Hopefully they make you one, and you can stop dreaming.
I'd never wandered int the Z/28 area before, and was just asking what all the fuss was about whan the car doesn't exist.
I'll leave you to yourselves.
I really do hope they make you one.

Thank you, please stay around and see our dream happen.

[OldScoolCamaro]

Originally Posted by Gramps69Z

Thank you, please stay around and see our dream happen.

^," Dreams can come true...it can happen to you, if you're young at heart"....

[BeachBum]

Originally Posted by carguy

Right here is what ya need....

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nice looking rides you have there - I loved the 69 Z/28 but was in Vietnam those years so was not able to get one - Having the 2012 is showing me what I missed way back then - Was a street terror in 1963 with a "409" I had bought new in Springfield, Illinois

[Heaven_is_inferno_orange]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

There was a 1st gen Z28 and has always been a Z28. this is the only generation with out a Z28. That's why there needs to be a 5th gen Z28.

This.

[Gramps69Z]

Originally Posted by Heaven_is_inferno_orange

This.

There's no doubt we will have a 5th gen Z/28, when is the big question.

[OldScoolCamaro]

Originally Posted by BeachBum

nice looking rides you have there - I loved the 69 Z/28 but was in Vietnam those years so was not able to get one - Having the 2012 is showing me what I missed way back then - Was a street terror in 1963 with a "409" I had bought new in Springfield, Illinois

Thank you for your service.....I recall anecdotal stoiries of guys who ordered cars while on active duty and didn't make it back.....I won't ever forget your sacrafices....

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by Gramps69Z

Thank you, please stay around and see our dream happen.

We even have our own lil ditty...

[OldScoolCamaro]

...dream along....just don't bring up Dream Weaver....LOL...., how about Aerosmith's Dream On? On of my favorite anthems....

[wildpaws]

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

...dream along....just don't bring up Dream Weaver....LOL...., how about Aerosmith's Dream On? On of my favorite anthems....

A road show that I did lights and sound for used Dream Weaver for it's theme, between rehersals and all of the shows where I heard it, if I never hear it again it will be too soon!
Clyde

[OldScoolCamaro]

Originally Posted by wildpaws

A road show that I did lights and sound for used Dream Weaver for it's theme, between rehersals and all of the shows where I heard it, if I never hear it again it will be too soon!
Clyde

...we are cut from the same cloth my brother....!