Can your Gen5 Camaro v6 beat the new 13' Mustang v6?

[Stealthpanda]

Dont think so Swift. I keep thinking weight disadvantage for starters. Then things like LRA vs IRS. DI vs MPFI?? Driver race for the most part. The advantage, outside of other packages the Mustang can get, is still for the Mustang. Dont recall the gearing for the automatic vs manual Mustang, but I thought 2012 Camaro V6s all had 3.27, cept for the 2LS. (2.73?) Someone fix me if im wrong in any of this. Cheers.

[jlawrence613]

Originally Posted by Stealthpanda

Dont think so Swift. I keep thinking weight disadvantage for starters. Then things like LRA vs IRS. DI vs MPFI?? Driver race for the most part. The advantage, outside of other packages the Mustang can get, is still for the Mustang. Dont recall the gearing for the automatic vs manual Mustang, but I thought 2012 Camaro V6s all had 3.27, cept for the 2LS. (2.73?) Someone fix me if im wrong in any of this. Cheers.

For 2011-2012 V6 Mustangs:
Base Auto: 2.73
Base Manual: 2.73
Performance Package Manual: 3.31

For 2013 V6 Mustangs:

Base Auto: 2.73
Base Manual: 2.73
Performance Package Auto: 3.31
Performance Package Manual: 3.31

[Stew]

Originally Posted by jlawrence613

For 2011-2012 V6 Mustangs:
Base Auto: 2.73
Base Manual: 2.73
Performance Package Manual: 3.31

For 2013 V6 Mustangs:

Base Auto: 2.73
Base Manual: 2.73
Performance Package Auto: 3.31
Performance Package Manual: 3.31

I know at least on 11-12 you could get the 3.31 on any manual or auto Mustang, nearly everyone they got at the local dealership had them.

[jlawrence613]

Originally Posted by Stew

I know at least on 11-12 you could get the 3.31 on any manual or auto Mustang, nearly everyone they got at the local dealership had them.

I'm pretty sure those 11-12 Auto's with 3.31's were a dealer option or the car was ordered that way.

They weren't something Ford rolled out of the plant.

[vroomapunk]

This thread is actually still civil, good job guys, im actually learning a couple things. See what we can accomplish when we are just nice to eachother

[Stew]

Originally Posted by jlawrence613

I'm pretty sure those 11-12 Auto's with 3.31's were a dealer option or the car was ordered that way.

They weren't something Ford rolled out of the plant.

Nope, was on the window sticker, edmunds listed it as an option, but can't remember the price off hand.

EDIT: According to Edmunds the 3.31 rear w/limited slip is a $395 seperate option on both the 12 and 13 models.

[jlawrence613]

Originally Posted by Stew

Nope, was on the window sticker, edmunds listed it as an option, but can't remember the price off hand.

EDIT: According to Edmunds the 3.31 rear w/limited slip is a $395 seperate option on both the 12 and 13 models.

I stand corrected. Certainly wasnt an option when I shopped for my 2011. I ended up with 3.73's anyway!

Thanks though.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by vroomapunk

This thread is actually still civil, good job guys, im actually learning a couple things. See what we can accomplish when we are just nice to eachother

[2010SLVRBULIT]

:fighting0040:think it'd be close, but fall short

[Stew]

Originally Posted by jlawrence613

I stand corrected. Certainly wasnt an option when I shopped for my 2011. I ended up with 3.73's anyway!

Thanks though.

It's all good, bet those 3.73s give it much torquier feel from a stop.

[Stealthpanda]

Originally Posted by vroomapunk

This thread is actually still civil, good job guys, im actually learning a couple things. See what we can accomplish when we are just nice to eachother

The other thread went downhill fast... 6 pages deep. Correct information helps this case... Cheers.

[The SwiftChancelor]

Yeas we just decided to discuss things in a civil manner. If there's disagreements throughout then we'll just sort out those issues. Give respect, you get much respect.

[jlawrence613]

It also helps when mustang owners are aware of what they are allowed to be here for. To appreciate the camaro as both a competitor and fellow American pony car. I would battle v6 camaro and v6 and r/t chargers/challengers all day at the strip and talk much smack.

But as soon as a Hyundai Genesis or Nissan 370z owner or similar rolled up talking down on American muscle, we'd be be rock paper scissoring as to who will let them know what's up. And i'd be damn proud if it was a bad ass Camaro

[Stealthpanda]

Originally Posted by jlawrence613

It also helps when mustang owners are aware of what they are allowed to be here for. To appreciate the camaro as both a competitor and fellow American pony car. I would battle v6 camaro and v6 and r/t chargers/challengers all day at the strip and talk much smack.

But as soon as a Hyundai Genesis or Nissan 370z owner or similar rolled up talking down on American muscle, we'd be be rock paper scissoring as to who will let them know what's up. And i'd be damn proud if it was a bad ass Camaro

[Stealthpanda]

Im not too much of a h8r. Few mustang colors I love, the dark blue, and your blue :P Black obv and any, if avail, bright shade of red. Too much of a Camaro guy at heart to own one though. Nothing wrong with a friendly test drive one day, though.
Cheers!

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by The SwiftChancelor

Can your Camaro v6 beat the new 13' Mustang v6? I just read an article on the new v6 Mustang and it looks very impressive and this coming from a strictly Camaro fan. I think I read 1/4mile in 13.9 and 0-60 times of 5.3 and under 3600lbs., 305hp and 270something(8, I think)tq. Maybe GM has something up there sleeve.

May I ask, when shopping in the V6 category of these kinds of cars, is being fast or faster for that matter that critical? The reason I ask is I saw a stunning V6 Camaro this weekend at the dealer with under 50 KMs on it as it was a casino win traded on a SUV. And frankly at the price asked and the look of the car, not much could beat it on a style/value basis. I'm seriously thinking of picking it up, and really don't care whether anything is faster or not. It's just damn sexy looking.

[67 GTO]

Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

May I ask, when shopping in the V6 category of these kinds of cars, is being fast or faster for that matter that critical? The reason I ask is I saw a stunning V6 Camaro this weekend at the dealer with under 50 KMs on it as it was a casino win traded on a SUV. And frankly at the price asked and the look of the car, not much could beat it on a style/value basis. I'm seriously thinking of picking it up, and really don't care whether anything is faster or not. It's just damn sexy looking.

I don't think so. I go to the drag strip because I enjoy it and compete with cars in my class. Mostly, I race against myself, the car and my last best time.

I have no delusions of being faster than a stock V8 or any other car for that matter.

I went from 14.5 two years ago to now a mid 13 second car and it's been a fun ride with not that much money spent.

The slow V6 can be fun for some of us.

[Nessal]

Originally Posted by jlawrence613

It also helps when mustang owners are aware of what they are allowed to be here for. To appreciate the camaro as both a competitor and fellow American pony car. I would battle v6 camaro and v6 and r/t chargers/challengers all day at the strip and talk much smack.

But as soon as a Hyundai Genesis or Nissan 370z owner or similar rolled up talking down on American muscle, we'd be be rock paper scissoring as to who will let them know what's up. And i'd be damn proud if it was a bad ass Camaro

Amen to that. I don't know what the bickering is all about. I love all three pony cars and I think they ALL look great, not just the Camaro. I guess I just don't have blind allegiance.

[Deki]

Originally Posted by 67 GTO

The slow V6 can be fun for some of us.

It's funny that "slow" and "v6" are thrown around in the same sentence nowadays. V8s of just a few years ago had the same power, and some a lot less, and weren't considered slow. Times sure are changing. I for one wouldn't consider any new V6 pony car slow.

[brandonrr]

Originally Posted by LimaCharlie

Most of the time a '11+ V6 Mustang will beat a '10+ V6 Camaro (stock vs. Stock). Does anyone know if the LFX powered '12+ V6 Camaros made any significant acceleration improvements over the '10-'11 cars?

simply put, yes the 2012 V6 camaros have better acceleration, largely due to the composite intake manifold and the improved porting. people with the 2010-2011 camaros report impressive power gains after adding an isolator to their intake manifold, to reduce the heat soak the aluminum manifold suffers from. the slight reduction in weight on the '12 V6 camaro helps a bit too.

[gjarzabek009]

Originally Posted by Deki

It's funny that "slow" and "v6" are thrown around in the same sentence nowadays. V8s of just a few years ago had the same power, and some a lot less, and weren't considered slow. Times sure are changing. I for one wouldn't consider any new V6 pony car slow.

It will always be like that as long as there is a faster model of the same car.

[08-G35s/6MT]

Inline 6 engines are inherently better then V8's.... Despite lower CI and/or each cylinder pushing less fuel/air they still manage to have more low end/off idle torque. My 4.6 stroker Jeep Cherokee pulls wayyy harder off the line then a 5.9 V8 Grand Cherokee, for example. They also have 7 main bearings versus 6 on V8's. Cummins, RB26, 2JZ, BMW M 3.2 I-6, AMC 4.0/4.2, etc.... All the great 6 cylinder and smaller engines have been straight 6.

[Deki]

Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT

Inline 6 engines are inherently better then V8's.... Despite lower CI and/or each cylinder pushing less fuel/air they still manage to have more low end/off idle torque. My 4.6 stroker Jeep Cherokee pulls wayyy harder off the line then a 5.9 V8 Grand Cherokee, for example. They also have 7 main bearings versus 6 on V8's. Cummins, RB26, 2JZ, BMW M 3.2 I-6, AMC 4.0/4.2, etc.... All the great 6 cylinder and smaller engines have been straight 6.

it's because they have a firing stroke at every 120 degrees, not 90 like the V8s. They are not better, just a different design. Better is very subjective when it comes to engines, as many different factors go into it, such as efficiency, weight, packaging, power band, and cost.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

May I ask, when shopping in the V6 category of these kinds of cars, is being fast or faster for that matter that critical? ....

I'd say yes and no. No because if you are looking to be one of the fastest guys on the block...a V6 is the long road to get there....although it can be done and I have tons of respect and excitement for the V6 owners here doing the cool twin turbo and supercharged builts.

But yes because although its a V6, it does have its own competition, and its nice to be least competitive performance wise. How many less people would own the Camaro V6 today if it was only capable of a 7+ second 0 -60 and a 15.5 second quarter mile? Instead...V6 cars today are relatively fast, and good looking...just not the firebreathers that their bigger brothers are.

Originally Posted by Deki

It's funny that "slow" and "v6" are thrown around in the same sentence nowadays. V8s of just a few years ago had the same power, and some a lot less, and weren't considered slow. Times sure are changing. I for one wouldn't consider any new V6 pony car slow.

Right on....as I said before compared to their V8 siblings, they could be considered slow, but really the performance is pretty acceptable, and after the various performance mods I've done to my car I'm very happy.

[MichaelH]

Originally Posted by jlawrence613

It also helps when mustang owners are aware of what they are allowed to be here for. To appreciate the camaro as both a competitor and fellow American pony car. I would battle v6 camaro and v6 and r/t chargers/challengers all day at the strip and talk much smack.

But as soon as a Hyundai Genesis or Nissan 370z owner or similar rolled up talking down on American muscle, we'd be be rock paper scissoring as to who will let them know what's up. And i'd be damn proud if it was a bad ass Camaro

Very true I always root for the American cars over the imports regardless of make