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Old 05-08-2012, 10:36 PM   #43
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It also helps when mustang owners are aware of what they are allowed to be here for. To appreciate the camaro as both a competitor and fellow American pony car. I would battle v6 camaro and v6 and r/t chargers/challengers all day at the strip and talk much smack.

But as soon as a Hyundai Genesis or Nissan 370z owner or similar rolled up talking down on American muscle, we'd be be rock paper scissoring as to who will let them know what's up. And i'd be damn proud if it was a bad ass Camaro

Amen to that. I don't know what the bickering is all about. I love all three pony cars and I think they ALL look great, not just the Camaro. I guess I just don't have blind allegiance.
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:40 AM   #44
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The slow V6 can be fun for some of us.
It's funny that "slow" and "v6" are thrown around in the same sentence nowadays. V8s of just a few years ago had the same power, and some a lot less, and weren't considered slow. Times sure are changing. I for one wouldn't consider any new V6 pony car slow.
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:51 AM   #45
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Most of the time a '11+ V6 Mustang will beat a '10+ V6 Camaro (stock vs. Stock). Does anyone know if the LFX powered '12+ V6 Camaros made any significant acceleration improvements over the '10-'11 cars?
simply put, yes the 2012 V6 camaros have better acceleration, largely due to the composite intake manifold and the improved porting. people with the 2010-2011 camaros report impressive power gains after adding an isolator to their intake manifold, to reduce the heat soak the aluminum manifold suffers from. the slight reduction in weight on the '12 V6 camaro helps a bit too.
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:19 PM   #46
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It's funny that "slow" and "v6" are thrown around in the same sentence nowadays. V8s of just a few years ago had the same power, and some a lot less, and weren't considered slow. Times sure are changing. I for one wouldn't consider any new V6 pony car slow.
It will always be like that as long as there is a faster model of the same car.
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:39 PM   #47
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Inline 6 engines are inherently better then V8's.... Despite lower CI and/or each cylinder pushing less fuel/air they still manage to have more low end/off idle torque. My 4.6 stroker Jeep Cherokee pulls wayyy harder off the line then a 5.9 V8 Grand Cherokee, for example. They also have 7 main bearings versus 6 on V8's. Cummins, RB26, 2JZ, BMW M 3.2 I-6, AMC 4.0/4.2, etc.... All the great 6 cylinder and smaller engines have been straight 6.
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:57 PM   #48
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Inline 6 engines are inherently better then V8's.... Despite lower CI and/or each cylinder pushing less fuel/air they still manage to have more low end/off idle torque. My 4.6 stroker Jeep Cherokee pulls wayyy harder off the line then a 5.9 V8 Grand Cherokee, for example. They also have 7 main bearings versus 6 on V8's. Cummins, RB26, 2JZ, BMW M 3.2 I-6, AMC 4.0/4.2, etc.... All the great 6 cylinder and smaller engines have been straight 6.
it's because they have a firing stroke at every 120 degrees, not 90 like the V8s. They are not better, just a different design. Better is very subjective when it comes to engines, as many different factors go into it, such as efficiency, weight, packaging, power band, and cost.
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:22 PM   #49
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May I ask, when shopping in the V6 category of these kinds of cars, is being fast or faster for that matter that critical? ....
I'd say yes and no. No because if you are looking to be one of the fastest guys on the block...a V6 is the long road to get there....although it can be done and I have tons of respect and excitement for the V6 owners here doing the cool twin turbo and supercharged builts.

But yes because although its a V6, it does have its own competition, and its nice to be least competitive performance wise. How many less people would own the Camaro V6 today if it was only capable of a 7+ second 0 -60 and a 15.5 second quarter mile? Instead...V6 cars today are relatively fast, and good looking...just not the firebreathers that their bigger brothers are.

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It's funny that "slow" and "v6" are thrown around in the same sentence nowadays. V8s of just a few years ago had the same power, and some a lot less, and weren't considered slow. Times sure are changing. I for one wouldn't consider any new V6 pony car slow.
Right on....as I said before compared to their V8 siblings, they could be considered slow, but really the performance is pretty acceptable, and after the various performance mods I've done to my car I'm very happy.
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It also helps when mustang owners are aware of what they are allowed to be here for. To appreciate the camaro as both a competitor and fellow American pony car. I would battle v6 camaro and v6 and r/t chargers/challengers all day at the strip and talk much smack.

But as soon as a Hyundai Genesis or Nissan 370z owner or similar rolled up talking down on American muscle, we'd be be rock paper scissoring as to who will let them know what's up. And i'd be damn proud if it was a bad ass Camaro
Very true I always root for the American cars over the imports regardless of make
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:45 AM   #51
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Very true I always root for the American cars over the imports regardless of make
But yours is Canadian...

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But yours is Canadian...

I joke, I joke
Haha touché canada and America are pretty much the same lol
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and part mexican....

Or so I thought lol....could be wrong there.
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:52 PM   #54
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Isn't Ford Mexican as well as American made like GM with Canada and Dodge is what, German engineering? Ha.
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This thread is about which one gets better gas mileage right?
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