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RogerBzSS · 04-25-2012, 09:34 PM

Ok so I have just over 8K miles on my SS

I am finding with the car stopped and the clutch to the floor

1st to 2nd gear is like melted butter and transitions as I expect

with the car rolling a few mph the transition from 1st to 2nd
there appears to be a bit of a grind or meshing issue causing the grind

I noticed this when I 1st bough the car and then even switch to RP synchromesh trans fluid but the issue remains consistent with it being like butter when stopped

however when the car is even just rolling the transition from 1st to 2nd
is a bit rough with grinding and does not seem right..

anybody else with this issue going on?

I am going to bring it in to be looked at but figured I'd throw the scenario
out there.

and yes it continues to occur even after the trans is up to temp
50 60 miles out on a ride..

RogerBzSS · 05-01-2012, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slowhawk

When it's stopped the syncro's line up easier which is why it shifts easy.When moving the parts are rotating which the gm frictions are grabbing too much causing a grind on the syncro's. Doubt the dealer will do anything for it except maybe rebuild the tranny with the same frictions and hope it works better. This is why you read some people switching to carbon frictions. Makes it shift alot smoother.

Yeah this is on my mind more than Modding the car at the moment, have appointment Thursday so I see what I can do to sell the service writer on trans trouble and out of sync synchrose

Odd that its only 1 - 2

2 -3 3 - 4 4 - 5 and 5 - 6 all good and and as easy as the car being idle

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RogerBzSS · 05-03-2012, 10:38 AM

Looking into the improved master cylinder from IdealG
I will try this for the short $$ in comparison to rebuilding the trans at the moment

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219889

+ using a stainless line

RogerBzSS · 05-07-2012, 12:54 PM

Tech able to replicate 1st - 2nd gear grinds

He is chasing this down with GM, even if nothing comes of this at the moment
it's logged with my dealer and GM

the tech and service writer said they would get back to me.

so we will see what they have to say.

bcarkle · 05-07-2012, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerBzSS

Tech able to replicate 1st - 2nd gear grinds

He is chasing this down with GM, even if nothing comes of this at the moment
it's logged with my dealer and GM

the tech and service writer said they would get back to me.

so we will see what they have to say.

I have the same problem. I took my car in last friday. Gave the service manager a ride and he said leave it here with me we'll fix it. Received a call today from the SM and he said GM Corp. won't touch it and it is normal. WTF? I have 1680 miles on the car. He also told me I would get better 0-60 times shifting at 4800. What's next?

RogerBzSS · 05-07-2012, 11:31 PM

I have the link above Idealg’s improved master cylinder going in next week

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bcarkle · 05-08-2012, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerBzSS

I have the link above Idealg’s improved master cylinder going in next week

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I have IDEALG's master cylinder in my garage. I was waiting to get my tranny fixed first but that's not going to happen. yet.

RogerBzSS · 05-08-2012, 03:36 PM

Just got a call from my SM from my Dealer, they are looking to replace transmission part #'s and have them on order.

19259991
19256242
19256241

Roger

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bcarkle · 05-08-2012, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerBzSS

Just got a call from my SM from my Dealer, they are looking to replace transmission part #'s and have them on order.

19259991
19256242
19256241

Roger

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You lucky dog. That's awesome. hopefully yours will be fixed

RogerBzSS · 05-09-2012, 04:48 AM

We will see if the effort pays off!

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Stealth6 · 05-09-2012, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerBzSS

We will see if the effort pays off!

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Lets hope that it does. Keep us posted.

RogerBzSS · 08-02-2012, 01:22 PM

well to keep this updated I now have 12000 miles on my SS after the above parts where changed at the dealer, + I added the IdealG master Cylinder and Separate reservoir and stainless line..

absolutely no grinds

tech told be back when this was done the the synchro was basically welded to the shaft
and it needed to be forced off, but even before the other work it was improved but I went the extra steps with IdealG Master Cyl separate reservoir and Braided Line

6400 rpm gear pulls are not a problem and NO grinds pulling hard!!

04-25-2012, 09:34 PM	#1
RogerBzSS Drives: 11 IBM n White 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tewksbury Ma Posts: 330 View My Garage	1st gear to 2nd gear Ok so I have just over 8K miles on my SS I am finding with the car stopped and the clutch to the floor 1st to 2nd gear is like melted butter and transitions as I expect with the car rolling a few mph the transition from 1st to 2nd there appears to be a bit of a grind or meshing issue causing the grind I noticed this when I 1st bough the car and then even switch to RP synchromesh trans fluid but the issue remains consistent with it being like butter when stopped however when the car is even just rolling the transition from 1st to 2nd is a bit rough with grinding and does not seem right.. anybody else with this issue going on? I am going to bring it in to be looked at but figured I'd throw the scenario out there. and yes it continues to occur even after the trans is up to temp 50 60 miles out on a ride..

05-07-2012, 11:31 PM	#6
RogerBzSS Drives: 11 IBM n White 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tewksbury Ma Posts: 330 View My Garage	I have the link above Idealg’s improved master cylinder going in next week Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Black CIA -Powder Coated Red Air Scoop - Vmax Ported Throttle Body - Ceramic Coated Dynatek Headers - High Flow Cats out thru factory Cat Back - JRE rough idle cam package - Trunion Upgrade - Valve Springs - Hardened Push rods - 3 bolt timing gear - SLP Under drive pully- Washer bottle relo kit - Hurst Short Throw Shifter with updated pin bushing from C5 member NH-SS - IdealG's improved Master Cylinder - GTO Clutch reservoir - L99 Brake Reservoir - Stainless Braided clutch line - wrapped up with a JRE Tune My SS layed down 462 hp on JRE's Superflow Dyno

05-08-2012, 03:36 PM	#8
RogerBzSS Drives: 11 IBM n White 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tewksbury Ma Posts: 330 View My Garage	Just got a call from my SM from my Dealer, they are looking to replace transmission part #'s and have them on order. 19259991 19256242 19256241 Roger Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Black CIA -Powder Coated Red Air Scoop - Vmax Ported Throttle Body - Ceramic Coated Dynatek Headers - High Flow Cats out thru factory Cat Back - JRE rough idle cam package - Trunion Upgrade - Valve Springs - Hardened Push rods - 3 bolt timing gear - SLP Under drive pully- Washer bottle relo kit - Hurst Short Throw Shifter with updated pin bushing from C5 member NH-SS - IdealG's improved Master Cylinder - GTO Clutch reservoir - L99 Brake Reservoir - Stainless Braided clutch line - wrapped up with a JRE Tune My SS layed down 462 hp on JRE's Superflow Dyno

05-09-2012, 04:48 AM	#10
RogerBzSS Drives: 11 IBM n White 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tewksbury Ma Posts: 330 View My Garage	We will see if the effort pays off! Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Black CIA -Powder Coated Red Air Scoop - Vmax Ported Throttle Body - Ceramic Coated Dynatek Headers - High Flow Cats out thru factory Cat Back - JRE rough idle cam package - Trunion Upgrade - Valve Springs - Hardened Push rods - 3 bolt timing gear - SLP Under drive pully- Washer bottle relo kit - Hurst Short Throw Shifter with updated pin bushing from C5 member NH-SS - IdealG's improved Master Cylinder - GTO Clutch reservoir - L99 Brake Reservoir - Stainless Braided clutch line - wrapped up with a JRE Tune My SS layed down 462 hp on JRE's Superflow Dyno

08-02-2012, 01:22 PM	#12
RogerBzSS Drives: 11 IBM n White 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tewksbury Ma Posts: 330 View My Garage	well to keep this updated I now have 12000 miles on my SS after the above parts where changed at the dealer, + I added the IdealG master Cylinder and Separate reservoir and stainless line.. absolutely no grinds tech told be back when this was done the the synchro was basically welded to the shaft and it needed to be forced off, but even before the other work it was improved but I went the extra steps with IdealG Master Cyl separate reservoir and Braided Line 6400 rpm gear pulls are not a problem and NO grinds pulling hard!! __________________ Black CIA -Powder Coated Red Air Scoop - Vmax Ported Throttle Body - Ceramic Coated Dynatek Headers - High Flow Cats out thru factory Cat Back - JRE rough idle cam package - Trunion Upgrade - Valve Springs - Hardened Push rods - 3 bolt timing gear - SLP Under drive pully- Washer bottle relo kit - Hurst Short Throw Shifter with updated pin bushing from C5 member NH-SS - IdealG's improved Master Cylinder - GTO Clutch reservoir - L99 Brake Reservoir - Stainless Braided clutch line - wrapped up with a JRE Tune My SS layed down 462 hp on JRE's Superflow Dyno

05-03-2012, 10:38 AM	#3
RogerBzSS Drives: 11 IBM n White 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tewksbury Ma Posts: 330 View My Garage	Looking into the improved master cylinder from IdealG I will try this for the short $$ in comparison to rebuilding the trans at the moment http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219889 + using a stainless line

05-07-2012, 12:54 PM	#4
RogerBzSS Drives: 11 IBM n White 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tewksbury Ma Posts: 330 View My Garage	Tech able to replicate 1st - 2nd gear grinds He is chasing this down with GM, even if nothing comes of this at the moment it's logged with my dealer and GM the tech and service writer said they would get back to me. so we will see what they have to say.