2LE (Z28) fantasy?

[AlexM]

I am dreaming to a 2LE with auto and MR (or a non supercharged ZL1). What do you guys think? Some would call this Z28.

Love to have the ZL1 front/rear, wheels, steering wheel (bottom flat), magnetic ride on an auto 2SS based car. Lighter and no gas guzzler tax, better MPG, great looks and still fast with great handling. This should be about 8K less than the ZL1. At 46K it will do very well on the market. Throw a mod or two at it and call it a day!

[LOWDOWN]

Wade through this Section...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=136

Or, better yet, start a POLL...

[slick rick]

If the Z28 had MRC then it wouldn't be allowed in SCCA, right?

[amz]

My Z28 would be an SS , lightened by a few hundred pounds [wheels-no backseat-plexiglass-carbonfiber] ,roll cage,3.91 gear, and most electronic luxury gone.

[Kent2010]

An automatic Z28???

I know the advantages of an auto in drag racing -- but in a road racing model like a Z28?

Not sayin' you *can't* ... just sayin'!

[zogster]

Yeah, Z/28 should not have an automatic. If you want an automatic buy a ZL1.

[Fraxum]

Post this in the Z28 section. But first put on your flame suit.

[The SwiftChancelor]

Don't you all remember the z28 4th gens weren't just manuals and they had back seats. Same for the 3rd gen, I think.

[AlexM]

Hahahaha, I see I touched a sensitive area when I mentioned the Z28. I was thinking mainly to how lots of people refer to Z28 as in 4th gen Z28 (all the V8 with exception of the SS). With this in mind, let's forget my reference to Z28 and focus on the, say 2LE with the options that I suggested. Anybody else thinks this could be a success? I am thinking to a car that can be a DD, weekend racer, tour around the country and to look breathtaking as the ZL1 looks, all in one. ZL1 was suggested, but I aim to the large general average people that can't afford 60K on a car that has insane insurance and 19MPG or less. Don't get me wrong, money aside, I would buy a ZL1 in a heartbeat, but could not afford. Camaro was not meant to be a high $ car, it was meant to be the high performance low cost that anybody can afford if you are asking me. Now, even a 40K SS is a bit pricey, let's face it (it is probably price based on the huge success of the 5th gen).
I am strongly looking at a 2013 2SS, but would buy a "2LE" with the specs suggested on the beginning of the thread.

[AlexM]

Originally Posted by The SwiftChancelor

Don't you all remember the z28 4th gens weren't just manuals and they had back seats. Same for the 3rd gen, I think.

Thanks The SwiftChancelor! My point exactly.

[AlexM]

Bump

[LOWDOWN]

Alex, first of all, welcome to our lil corner of CamaroLand.

This section, over some considerable time and discussion, has spent a fair amount of time formulating an all-Gen-friendly (?!) version of the iconic ZEE...and the closest GM has come to creating such a version is the soon-to-come 2013 1LE which, fortunately or otherwise, is a 6-speed manual-only version...for now.

Z28 means a dozen different things to 12 people...and you can figuratively consider yourself as one of those "dozen". Where the lines get a lil bit murky is when the Gen-3 and -4 versions are regarded as the "proper" versions, for that version already exists. It's called the SS, currently...the Base V8 version with some handling, appearance and comfort upgrades from the Base V6 versions. The 2013 SS will feature further improvements/enhancements that no doubt will improve owners' experiences.

Would/will GM build an Automatic version of "our" desired version? Anything's possible...including Automatic ZL1s, whose availability surprized more than a few...


There DOES seem to be a distinct deliniation between a Z/28...and a Z28... Frame of reference is the "problem".

Again, welcome!

[wildpaws]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Alex, first of all, welcome to our lil corner of CamaroLand.

This section, over some considerable time and discussion, has spent a fair amount of time formulating an all-Gen-friendly (?!) version of the iconic ZEE...and the closest GM has come to creating such a version is the soon-to-come 2013 1LE which, fortunately or otherwise, is a 6-speed manual-only version...for now.

Z28 means a dozen different things to 12 people...and you can figuratively consider yourself as one of those "dozen". Where the lines get a lil bit murky is when the Gen-3 and -4 versions are regarded as the "proper" versions, for that version already exists. It's called the SS, currently...the Base V8 version with some handling, appearance and comfort upgrades from the Base V6 versions. The 2013 SS will feature further improvements/enhancements that no doubt will improve owners' experiences.

Would/will GM build an Automatic version of "our" desired version? Anything's possible...including Automatic ZL1s, whose availability surprized more than a few...


There DOES seem to be a distinct deliniation between a Z/28...and a Z28... Frame of reference is the "problem".

Again, welcome!

Welcome to all the newcomers in the Z/28 forum! Lowdown, you have made (as usual) some excellent points, as you can see my frame of reference is Z/28, in my mind the whole heritage of the Z/28 was due to the first gens. and the very early 2nd gens (say '70/'71). I think that my ideal version for a 5th gen. Z/28 would follow pretty darn close to the long Z/28 threads that have been going on over the course of a couple of years. I would not want an auto Z/28 for myself, but I guess if enough people demand it (as they did with the ZL1) that perhaps Chevy would do an auto, then again, the 1LE is manual only, so who knows. I look forward to some good discussion with members that are new to the Z/28 forums, I would highly suggest that you read some of the long threads to get an idea of what has already been discussed.
Clyde

[Gramps69Z]

Originally Posted by wildpaws

Welcome to all the newcomers in the Z/28 forum! Lowdown, you have made (as usual) some excellent points, as you can see my frame of reference is Z/28, in my mind the whole heritage of the Z/28 was due to the first gens. and the very early 2nd gens (say '70/'71). I think that my ideal version for a 5th gen. Z/28 would follow pretty darn close to the long Z/28 threads that have been going on over the course of a couple of years. I would not want an auto Z/28 for myself, but I guess if enough people demand it (as they did with the ZL1) that perhaps Chevy would do an auto, then again, the 1LE is manual only, so who knows. I look forward to some good discussion with members that are new to the Z/28 forums, I would highly suggest that you read some of the long threads to get an idea of what has already been discussed.
Clyde

I truly believe we will get our 5th gen. 2LE-Z/28.
As Clyde stated please read through some of the Z/28 threads before posting thoughts that have already been posted...........and posted.......... and posted.

One more thing......... trolls and nonbelievers, tighten your shoe strings.

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by amz

My Z28 would be an SS , lightened by a few hundred pounds [wheels-no backseat-plexiglass-carbonfiber] ,roll cage,3.91 gear, and most electronic luxury gone.

They have that... its called a COPO

Originally Posted by The SwiftChancelor

Don't you all remember the z28 4th gens weren't just manuals and they had back seats. Same for the 3rd gen, I think.

But don't you remember that when the 4th gen was launched, there was only 1 v8 model. Gm was getting ready to drop the axe on the camaro program before the 4th gen was every made. There wasn't money and interest enough in the program to do a base model v8 camaro and a Z28.
So they just badged all v8 cars with Z28. then in 96, GM and SLP worked out a deal for SLP to install a CAI and exhaust, new wheels, hood, spoiler and a few other things to make the cars into SS/Z28s.
a short while later, GM brought the process in house and officially launched the SS option as a separate version.

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Alex, first of all, welcome to our lil corner of CamaroLand.

This section, over some considerable time and discussion, has spent a fair amount of time formulating an all-Gen-friendly (?!) version of the iconic ZEE...and the closest GM has come to creating such a version is the soon-to-come 2013 1LE which, fortunately or otherwise, is a 6-speed manual-only version...for now.

Z28 means a dozen different things to 12 people...and you can figuratively consider yourself as one of those "dozen". Where the lines get a lil bit murky is when the Gen-3 and -4 versions are regarded as the "proper" versions, for that version already exists. It's called the SS, currently...the Base V8 version with some handling, appearance and comfort upgrades from the Base V6 versions. The 2013 SS will feature further improvements/enhancements that no doubt will improve owners' experiences.

Would/will GM build an Automatic version of "our" desired version? Anything's possible...including Automatic ZL1s, whose availability surprized more than a few...


There DOES seem to be a distinct deliniation between a Z/28...and a Z28... Frame of reference is the "problem".

Again, welcome!

So... we've got a Z/28 and a Z28... what about a Z-28?

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

So... we've got a Z/28 and a Z28... what about a Z-28?

ALL Z/28s AND Z28s have a LOT of "dash" in 'em... ...or SHOULD have!

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

Post this in the Z28 section. But first put on your flame suit.

C'mon now we're not that bad...are we?


And to the newby's a big WELCOME. Enjoy there's plenty to view in this section.

[Gramps69Z]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

Post this in the Z28 section. But first put on your flame suit.

:emoticon7::emoticon7::emoticon7:
:emoticon7::emoticon7::emoticon7:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

C'mon now we're not that bad...are we?


And to the newby's a big WELCOME. Enjoy there's plenty to view in this section.

Hopefully soon we'll all need flame suits as this will be the hottest thread on the forum.

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

C'mon now we're not that bad...are we?
And to the newby's a big WELCOME. Enjoy there's plenty to view in this section.

Well the automatic Z28 idea I thought might strike a raw nerve over here. Autos don't track but they do drag.

[LOWDOWN]

Volume is a "magic" word, these days. Is it "unholy" to consider an Automatic ZEE? Not likely MY cup of tea but, if it helps persuade "the powers that be" to build what WE want, so be it.

After all, who expected an Automatic ZL1, 'way back when?

Without it, the ZL1 may not have seen the light of day...

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

Well the automatic Z28 idea I thought might strike a raw nerve over here. Autos don't track but they do drag.

I wouldn't say no for others, but not for me. If it helps get this Camaro built I'm all for it.

[Cody6.2]

I'm pretty sure we'll see a Z/28 before some kind of goofey 2LE.

[Gramps69Z]

Originally Posted by Cody6.2

I'm pretty sure we'll see a Z/28 before some kind of goofey 2LE.

What do you have against Goofy?

[AlexM]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Volume is a "magic" word, these days. Is it "unholy" to consider an Automatic ZEE? Not likely MY cup of tea but, if it helps persuade "the powers that be" to build what WE want, so be it.

After all, who expected an Automatic ZL1, 'way back when?

Without it, the ZL1 may not have seen the light of day...

Agree! It would be MY cup of tea!!!

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by AlexM

Agree! It would be MY cup of tea!!!

See...PROGRESS!

It IS possible to be "hardcore" AND "inclusive"...