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IPF-Tuning · 05-12-2012, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lesson1

Any dealers in S.C or N.C

We are in the process of setting up dealers nationwide. PM or email me for a specific city and state.

Thanks,

Jason
IPF Tuning
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IPF-Tuning · 05-12-2012, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Macrackie

Thank you for the information. It will be great to see the LLT run once the owner gets his gear for the track.

Also curious as I live in the north if you feel the tune will be broad enough to safely run one setup year round. O degrees to 100 degrees not to mention summer and winter blended fuels?

Where is your intake air filter? Call me stupid but I drive the camaro in anythhing up to 3 inch's of snow.

Our filter is positioned similar to most cold air intakes. Below where the stock airbox sat, sort of below the headlight behind the bumper.

Thanks,

Jason
IPF Tuning
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IPF-Tuning · 05-12-2012, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MINI HLK

Is the just a tune include dyno or ECU and TCU? I like others am really curious. I like the post and am really interested in what is available. I love the LFX runs very very nice.

We offer the PowerTune and then the TCU is an upgrade for the PowerTune.

Thank you for the remarks!

Thanks,

Jason
IPF Tuning
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Fr3e4gent · 05-12-2012, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MINI HLK

Nice read

I am concerned with the LLT and if it has enough power to meet my goals.

Goals:
13.5 or better in the 1/4 mile with 18" rims 18x9.5 or 10 front and 18X10.5 back. (possibly Forgestar F14)
Also 0-60 in less than 5.7 seconds.

I would like to do this without having to change my tires. If traction is an issue I can address that when it needs to be.

Does your tune address the automatic transmission? As I have an automatic.

Thats about all the questions I have. Again nice write up.

I have the LLT kit ( first customer ) and I do 4.6 sec 0-60. It will definitely do 13 or lower in 1/4th mile.

Traction is a small issue. Currently using Nitto 555s and the traction is way better. It does come with a transmission tune because thats what they did on mine since its automatic.

Fr3e4gent · 05-12-2012, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MINI HLK

Ok TCU = Transmission Control Unit, ECU = Engine Control Unit, and BCU = Body Control Unit.

As far as the LLT engine will it perform as well as the LFX? Am I to assume since the LFX got a 13.0 then so should the LLT.

The LLT will perform just as well or better than the LFX because of the power it makes compared to the LFX...

I clearly can't confirm this because I havent taken it to the track yet but its 90% positive.

scrming · 05-12-2012, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fr3e4gent

I have the LLT kit ( first customer ) and I do 4.6 sec 0-60. It will definitely do 13 or lower in 1/4th mile.

Traction is a small issue. Currently using Nitto 555s and the traction is way better. It does come with a transmission tune because thats what they did on mine since its automatic.

I would say if you are pulling a 4.6 sec 0-60 you are low 13s...

Macrackie · 05-12-2012, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Macrackie

Thank you for the information. It will be great to see the LLT run once the owner gets his gear for the track.

Also curious as I live in the north if you feel the tune will be broad enough to safely run one setup year round. O degrees to 100 degrees not to mention summer and winter blended fuels?

Where is your intake air filter? Call me stupid but I drive the camaro in anythhing up to 3 inch's of snow.

Thanks for the answer about filter location. Would you or fre34gent be able to provide a photo of the filter.

Still curious about my first question reguarding year round drivability with your setup. Huge temperature swings and verying fuel blends for the dofferent seasons.

KMPrenger · 05-12-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scrming

should be low 12s possibly 11s...

Brick with me weighs in at 5185 and turns 12.95... Figure 1000 pounds = 1 second...

AWD certainly helps you lol. A camaro with anything less than good DRs and a good launch will lose some of that time just trying to get traction.

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Originally Posted by IPF-Tuning

We sure do! We have a tune for a bone stock V6 that adds 22+ HP and then so far programs for intake and exhaust. We will have a program for long-tube headers in the near future.

For more information on our tuning product, visit www.IPF-Tuning.com

Thanks,

Jason
IPF Tuning
www.facebook.com/IPFTuning

Have you guys started a thread about this anywhere? I'd love to see more details such as dyno graphs or really just anything you can provide. I think others would too. Would like to know if this was an LLT or LFX engine.

Does this have to be done at your facility, or at any dyno shop, or can it be done via email and mail at home like Trifecta tuning?

Thanks.

MINI HLK · 05-13-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fr3e4gent

The LLT will perform just as well or better than the LFX because of the power it makes compared to the LFX...

I clearly can't confirm this because I havent taken it to the track yet but its 90% positive.

Nice thank you for both answers, I am feeling better already. wow 4.7 0-60 that is nice.

Again thank you for the answers

Fr3e4gent · 05-13-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Macrackie

Thanks for the answer about filter location. Would you or fre34gent be able to provide a photo of the filter.

Still curious about my first question reguarding year round drivability with your setup. Huge temperature swings and verying fuel blends for the dofferent seasons.

I will put some more photos up soon. Just recently I drove from Arizona to California at speeds of 75-80 mph the whole way. Tempe Arizona to Malibu California... my fuel economy was about 26 mpg. I had gone 333.6 miles according to my trip monitor and when I filled up at the gas station it had filled 12.8 gallons.

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Have you guys started a thread about this anywhere? I'd love to see more details such as dyno graphs or really just anything you can provide. I think others would too. Would like to know if this was an LLT or LFX engine.

Does this have to be done at your facility, or at any dyno shop, or can it be done via email and mail at home like Trifecta tuning?

Thanks.

There are other threads under the Forced Induction Topic about the IPF supercharger, I have posted a graph of my car (the LLT) it was 392rwhp and 319 wheel torque. This is an automatic 2010. If you mean my camaro its the LLT. The LFX is not a customer's vehicle... its the company's car for ground tuning and pushing the limits...however my LLT has more power than the LFX manual 2012.

It does not have to be done at the IPF facility, the SC has already been shipped to several shops with the instruction booklet on how to install. Not sure about this next question but I believe the shop will be given the tune that IPF made and they will put it into the car for you.

KMPrenger · 05-13-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fr3e4gent

There are other threads under the Forced Induction Topic about the IPF supercharger, I have posted a graph of my car (the LLT) it was 392rwhp and 319 wheel torque. This is an automatic 2010. If you mean my camaro its the LLT. The LFX is not a customer's vehicle... its the company's car for ground tuning and pushing the limits...however my LLT has more power than the LFX manual 2012.

It does not have to be done at the IPF facility, the SC has already been shipped to several shops with the instruction booklet on how to install. Not sure about this next question but I believe the shop will be given the tune that IPF made and they will put it into the car for you.

Appreciate the information, but I had already seen where you've posted it elsewhere

What I've been asking them about is the tune only...not the supercharger.

Wizzer · 05-13-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fr3e4gent

I have the LLT kit ( first customer ) and I do 4.6 sec 0-60. It will definitely do 13 or lower in 1/4th mile.

Traction is a small issue. Currently using Nitto 555s and the traction is way better. It does come with a transmission tune because thats what they did on mine since its automatic.

Can I see a few shots of inside your engine compartment?

Or do you have a thread with this already?

Thx

I am interested in this. I would be wanting the long tube headers as well as the supercharger in the future.

bmorecam · 05-13-2012, 10:23 PM

IPF and jason, thank you for being part of this community and bringing us another awesome option for this very awesome platform that some companies seem to overlook(very stupid of them LOL). However, I do have some questions regarding your tuning options. Not specifically about your IPF supercharger tuning but tuning factory platform that claim 19rwhp and 22rwtq! The last time I spoke with someone from KPE regarding this tuning option it was mentioned that in some cases you guys was seeing almost 30ft lb of tq! away from that, even the advertised 19hp/22tq is very very impressive. The most claimed at this point is 13hp via trifecta. I've personally done tons of testing, developing, and helping on the dyno in trying to see if there was something we was safely missing but it seems anything more than 13hp was like trying to find a drop of water in the middle of sahara desert.

One thing that has not been explained more in detail by you guys is this factory tuning option that is good for 19hp and 22tq. I'm not asking you to tell us in exact detail on how this was achieved but it would be nice if we can know a little more details other than a dyno graph and advertised gain.

Again, thank you guys for bringing us another great option! and by the way, I am very aware of evolution motorsport and EDS tuning platform. EDS have actually been dealing with GM and direct injection tuning in EU way before camaro DI hit the US

Much respect to you guys joining forces to bring this awesome development!!

Make It Rain · 05-13-2012, 11:29 PM

I have been watching this forum for a long time, and have decided to go with your SC system. You are the only company with real provable results, can be installed in less than 8 hrs and has a warranty. Your system seems to be the cleanest OEM type available.

How is the best way to find a dealer in my area? I spend my winters out west, and will be heading home in two weeks.

IPF-Tuning · 05-14-2012, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bmorecam

IPF and jason, thank you for being part of this community and bringing us another awesome option for this very awesome platform that some companies seem to overlook(very stupid of them LOL). However, I do have some questions regarding your tuning options. Not specifically about your IPF supercharger tuning but tuning factory platform that claim 19rwhp and 22rwtq! The last time I spoke with someone from KPE regarding this tuning option it was mentioned that in some cases you guys was seeing almost 30ft lb of tq! away from that, even the advertised 19hp/22tq is very very impressive. The most claimed at this point is 13hp via trifecta. I've personally done tons of testing, developing, and helping on the dyno in trying to see if there was something we was safely missing but it seems anything more than 13hp was like trying to find a drop of water in the middle of sahara desert.

One thing that has not been explained more in detail by you guys is this factory tuning option that is good for 19hp and 22tq. I'm not asking you to tell us in exact detail on how this was achieved but it would be nice if we can know a little more details other than a dyno graph and advertised gain.

Again, thank you guys for bringing us another great option! and by the way, I am very aware of evolution motorsport and EDS tuning platform. EDS have actually been dealing with GM and direct injection tuning in EU way before camaro DI hit the US

Much respect to you guys joining forces to bring this awesome development!!

Thank you. We have posted other threads regarding the tuning, but the buzz seems to be around the supercharger, although our ECU tuning product is very impressive, especially for the 3.6L V6. As you are already familiar with, our DI tuning experience starts long before the Camaro, and we really have the experience to make power in these applications. Understanding the diversity between a DI motor and what maps to affect. There are roughly 16,000 unique maps in the 2010 Bosch ECU in the Camaro, and the way our IPF Flasher allows us to adjust the right maps while not affecting maps that adversely affect the performance.

Its really a combining of art and science.

The results we achieve on the Camaro are really the result of experience with the Bosch ECU and DI engines both inside and outside of GM.

I would be happy to discuss further, if you would like to call. Hopefully that provides the clarity your were looking for.

Thanks,

Fr3e4gent · 05-14-2012, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzer

Can I see a few shots of inside your engine compartment?

Or do you have a thread with this already?

Thx

I am interested in this. I would be wanting the long tube headers as well as the supercharger in the future.

I will upload photos soon, after my trip back to AZ tomorrow.

IPF is going to make a tune for long tube headers soon with BBKs

bmorecam · 05-14-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by IPF-Tuning

Thank you. We have posted other threads regarding the tuning, but the buzz seems to be around the supercharger, although our ECU tuning product is very impressive, especially for the 3.6L V6. As you are already familiar with, our DI tuning experience starts long before the Camaro, and we really have the experience to make power in these applications. Understanding the diversity between a DI motor and what maps to affect. There are roughly 16,000 unique maps in the 2010 Bosch ECU in the Camaro, and the way our IPF Flasher allows us to adjust the right maps while not affecting maps that adversely affect the performance.

Its really a combining of art and science.

The results we achieve on the Camaro are really the result of experience with the Bosch ECU and DI engines both inside and outside of GM.

I would be happy to discuss further, if you would like to call. Hopefully that provides the clarity your were looking for.

Thanks,

Thank you sir!

Mach · 05-14-2012, 11:16 AM

Bemore... Are you still sure you want to sell your Camaro? The hit you'll take= FI. Just sayin..

V6owner · 05-14-2012, 11:59 AM

Can someone link me to Fr3e4gent's dyno graph of the 391rwhp/30xrwtq pull?

bmorecam · 05-14-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach

Bemore... Are you still sure you want to sell your Camaro? The hit you'll take= FI. Just sayin..

at this point I am 90% sure. I still have that other 10% that make me want to keep it. I still have about two weeks before I have to turn her in so we will see.:(

gahammerle · 05-14-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by V6owner

Can someone link me to Fr3e4gent's dyno graph of the 391rwhp/30xrwtq pull?

391? I thought the kit is advertised at 400+.

Mach · 05-14-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gahammerle

391? I thought the kit is advertised at 400+.

No. They advertised 435hp at the shaft. So 391 rwhp is really good.

V6owner · 05-14-2012, 01:54 PM

Is said he dyno'd at 391. I just dunno where he posted the graph or he just claimed 391

pgustavson · 05-14-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by V6owner

Is said he dyno'd at 391. I just dunno where he posted the graph or he just claimed 391

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220169

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Fr3e4gent · 05-14-2012, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach

No. They advertised 435hp at the shaft. So 391 rwhp is really good.

Which I am actually making about 445 at the shaft.

I definitely know I posted the dyno, I would never go off and say its 391 with out proof

Drove back to AZ today, about 27.8 mpg.. Not bad for driving 80 the whole way from California.

05-14-2012, 11:59 AM	#44
V6owner I'm slow, lets race! Drives: Rx Supercharged V6 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Rosenberg, TX Posts: 1,908 View My Garage	Can someone link me to Fr3e4gent's dyno graph of the 391rwhp/30xrwtq pull? __________________ 2010 Camaro LLT SOLD 2012 Silverado 6.2L CURRENT

05-14-2012, 01:54 PM	#48
V6owner I'm slow, lets race! Drives: Rx Supercharged V6 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Rosenberg, TX Posts: 1,908 View My Garage	Is said he dyno'd at 391. I just dunno where he posted the graph or he just claimed 391 __________________ 2010 Camaro LLT SOLD 2012 Silverado 6.2L CURRENT

05-13-2012, 10:23 PM	#38
bmorecam Account Suspended Drives: jealous vendors mad!! HAHA!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CYBERGMONSTER@GMAIL.COM Posts: 3,705 View My Garage	IPF and jason, thank you for being part of this community and bringing us another awesome option for this very awesome platform that some companies seem to overlook(very stupid of them LOL). However, I do have some questions regarding your tuning options. Not specifically about your IPF supercharger tuning but tuning factory platform that claim 19rwhp and 22rwtq! The last time I spoke with someone from KPE regarding this tuning option it was mentioned that in some cases you guys was seeing almost 30ft lb of tq! away from that, even the advertised 19hp/22tq is very very impressive. The most claimed at this point is 13hp via trifecta. I've personally done tons of testing, developing, and helping on the dyno in trying to see if there was something we was safely missing but it seems anything more than 13hp was like trying to find a drop of water in the middle of sahara desert. One thing that has not been explained more in detail by you guys is this factory tuning option that is good for 19hp and 22tq. I'm not asking you to tell us in exact detail on how this was achieved but it would be nice if we can know a little more details other than a dyno graph and advertised gain. Again, thank you guys for bringing us another great option! and by the way, I am very aware of evolution motorsport and EDS tuning platform. EDS have actually been dealing with GM and direct injection tuning in EU way before camaro DI hit the US Much respect to you guys joining forces to bring this awesome development!!

05-13-2012, 11:29 PM	#39
Make It Rain Drives: 69 Z28 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Paradise Valley, Az. Posts: 49	I have been watching this forum for a long time, and have decided to go with your SC system. You are the only company with real provable results, can be installed in less than 8 hrs and has a warranty. Your system seems to be the cleanest OEM type available. How is the best way to find a dealer in my area? I spend my winters out west, and will be heading home in two weeks.

05-14-2012, 11:16 AM	#43
Mach Drives: White M6 1LT RS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Canton, MI Posts: 1,666	Bemore... Are you still sure you want to sell your Camaro? The hit you'll take= FI. Just sayin.. __________________ Pfadt Sway Bars - FE3 Suspension - Barton Shifter - IdealG's Clutch Master Cylinder - Trifecta - Vmax TB - Vararam Intake - MACE 25mm Insulator - Plenum Insulator - Ported/Gasket Matched Intake Manifold - Rx Catchcan - AAC DRL's - 4 Pack Aux Gauges - Steering Controls - AAC Afterburners - DIY Led Sidemarkers - ZL1 Front End Next mod: Done!