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insidethreat07 · 05-21-2012, 07:33 PM

Well we got the Eaton Posi today an I love it already. After the install the ASR and ABS INOP lights are on. The new posi did not have the reluctlor ring on it as the old open differential did. And it sounds like I either need to install a new reluctor ring to shut the lights off or ignore/pull the bulbs out.
my question is where could I get a reluctor ring to put on it? I cant take the ring off the old open differential. Or would you guys not even worry about it a pull the bulbs out?

Zabo · 05-21-2012, 07:46 PM

Reflash and ignore. Stupid computer doesn't comprehend "fun". Doing similar with the exhaust when it throws a fit about no AIR/cats/front O2s..

insidethreat07 · 05-21-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zabo

Reflash and ignore. Stupid computer doesn't comprehend "fun". Doing similar with the exhaust when it throws a fit about no AIR/cats/front O2s..

What you mean by reflash??

ndtguy · 05-21-2012, 08:30 PM

He means get the computer programmed.

insidethreat07 · 05-21-2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ndtguy

He means get the computer programmed.

Like if I know a guy that tunes cars or is that completly different? Sorry Im a newb

xXSilencerXx · 05-21-2012, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by insidethreat07

Like if I know a guy that tunes cars or is that completly different? Sorry Im a newb

Yea he's saying have it tuned out.

I haven't heard of anybody tuning out traction control and ABS before though nor do I know that you can. If it's simple I'd just fix it. I've chasing an ABS Inop light for the last 2 years, but without a scanner I have no leads onto what randomly throws it.

insidethreat07 · 05-22-2012, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by xXSilencerXx

Yea he's saying have it tuned out.

I haven't heard of anybody tuning out traction control and ABS before though nor do I know that you can. If it's simple I'd just fix it. I've chasing an ABS Inop light for the last 2 years, but without a scanner I have no leads onto what randomly throws it.

He said its in the BCM and he cant do anything about it.
There is pretty much no way to get rid of those lights except for putting the reluctor ring around the new posi or pulling the bulbs.

Zabo · 05-22-2012, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xXSilencerXx

Yea he's saying have it tuned out.

I haven't heard of anybody tuning out traction control and ABS before though nor do I know that you can. If it's simple I'd just fix it. I've chasing an ABS Inop light for the last 2 years, but without a scanner I have no leads onto what randomly throws it.

Which is why I say tune it out. Without the reluctor ring it probably will throw the codes to flash the ABS and ASR lights. The new Posi is just fooling the computer; thus if you retune the computer to ignore the signals from the sensors saying "ZOMGOHNOESPROBLEMZ!" everything should be spiffy.

Pretty much did something similar when I shut down my skip shift from the PCM/ECU. Just call up another shop or hit up LS1tech and look up posi swaps or symptoms of what you have and look at solutions. Pretty sure a dyno shop could do it.

demonspeed · 05-22-2012, 06:31 AM

IMO, I'd have this one repaired correctly. ABS is not really anything you'd want to mess around with. The only time ABS INOP should show up in which you'd ignore it is when you're on the dyno. Your ASR and ABS work together, so like it or not, you may have to pull things apart because at the end of the day, they aren't just an annoying light making you shift or keeping the smog nazi's away.

insidethreat07 · 05-22-2012, 07:54 AM

The guy that installed it said he would put it back in if I can get the reluctor ring off the open differential. So I guess ill see if I can get it off somehow. I would really like to keep my ABS if I could.

demonspeed · 05-22-2012, 09:11 AM

You can always buy a new one if it came down to it.

I want to emphasize that this is not a case of simply a light. Your ABS is not working without that ring.

insidethreat07 · 05-22-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by demonspeed

You can always buy a new one if it came down to it.

I want to emphasize that this is not a case of simply a light. Your ABS is not working without that ring.

Yea I know the ABS doesnt work without it. I brought up the light bulb bc I didnt want to look at it until i get it fixed lol.
I thought the reluctor ring is discontinued

demonspeed · 05-22-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by insidethreat07

I thought the reluctor ring is discontinued

I have no idea

insidethreat07 · 05-22-2012, 01:13 PM

Well I got the reluctor ring off. Hopefully install it sometime next week and ill have ABS again and hopefully my ASR light will go off as well.

demonspeed · 05-22-2012, 01:44 PM

Yep, your ASR light will go off with that fix

insidethreat07 · 05-22-2012, 03:46 PM

Awesome. I hate having the lights on in the dash. Lol. Either getting installed next Tuesday or Wednesday.

Gramps69Z · 05-22-2012, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by insidethreat07

Awesome. I hate having the lights on in the dash. Lol. Either getting installed next Tuesday or Wednesday.

Place some black electrical tape over them until repairs are made.

xXSilencerXx · 05-22-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zabo

Which is why I say tune it out. Without the reluctor ring it probably will throw the codes to flash the ABS and ASR lights. The new Posi is just fooling the computer; thus if you retune the computer to ignore the signals from the sensors saying "ZOMGOHNOESPROBLEMZ!" everything should be spiffy.

Pretty much did something similar when I shut down my skip shift from the PCM/ECU. Just call up another shop or hit up LS1tech and look up posi swaps or symptoms of what you have and look at solutions. Pretty sure a dyno shop could do it.

Yes but the PCM is where those codes come from, these come from the BCM. I do not believe it is as simple to tune out, like I don't think HPTuners has access to the BCM.

helmincamaro · 05-28-2012, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gramps69Z

Place some black electrical tape over them until repairs are made.

THIS

. This mod worked perfectly on my dad's old blazer years ago

insidethreat07 · 05-30-2012, 11:35 AM

Any idea where I could get a reluctor ring for that eaton posi? We tried putting the old one one and ended up breaking it. Any info would be awesome.
Derek.

demonspeed · 05-30-2012, 12:32 PM

LS1tech classifieds would be my first search.

insidethreat07 · 05-30-2012, 08:34 PM

Yeah I'm going to kook around. I don't understand how it could snap lol

insidethreat07 · 05-30-2012, 10:35 PM

Will this work even tho it says 2.73 and 3.08
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ACDELCO-OE-S...sories&vxp=mtr

insidethreat07 · 05-30-2012, 11:11 PM

Doing a little digging
Part # 26014607
http://parts-catalog.acdelco.com/catalog/BuyersGuideSearch.php?BGRequest=1&part=26014607 &catalog=5570&parttype=2072
and it says "2001 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K"
Which mine is so it sounds like it fits

demonspeed · 05-31-2012, 08:55 AM

"If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit." Looks like it fits, so go for it.

05-21-2012, 07:33 PM	#1
insidethreat07 4-17-11 Drives: 2001 Camaro 3.8 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Continental Ohio Posts: 12,902 View My Garage	Questions after new posi install Well we got the Eaton Posi today an I love it already. After the install the ASR and ABS INOP lights are on. The new posi did not have the reluctlor ring on it as the old open differential did. And it sounds like I either need to install a new reluctor ring to shut the lights off or ignore/pull the bulbs out. my question is where could I get a reluctor ring to put on it? I cant take the ring off the old open differential. Or would you guys not even worry about it a pull the bulbs out? __________________ 2001 Camaro 3.8 V6 Silver Hockey Stripes, Berger Panel, Cardinal Red Camaro Rear Insert, 10 Spoke SS Wheels, Bowtie Center Caps, BMR Shock Tower Brace, Air Silencer Delete, Shaved Intake Lid, K&N Air Filter, Whistler Headlights, Eaton Limited slip, UMI Rear LCAs & PHB, Nitto 555, Flowmaster Axle Back Exhaust Soon To Be Added: Pacesetter Mid-Tube Headers & Y-Pipe, 3'' High Flow Catalytic Converter, SS Front & Rear Sway Bars.

05-21-2012, 07:46 PM	#2
Zabo Screamin' Chicken! Drives: '00 Trans Am, '13 Escape Ecoboost Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 9,302 View My Garage	Reflash and ignore. Stupid computer doesn't comprehend "fun". Doing similar with the exhaust when it throws a fit about no AIR/cats/front O2s.. __________________ 2000 Pontiac Trans Am !CAGS - CETA Blackout - WS6 Store Shortstick - Custom 'Bandit' Shift knob - 3" TSP Rumbler - AP Tips - 1 3/4" Pacesetter LTs - 3" Catted ORY - MSD Wires - NGK Plugs - !EGR - Prothane Motor and Transmission Mounts - Catch Can - BMR STB - 17" WS6 Speedlines - Volant CAI

05-21-2012, 08:30 PM	#4
ndtguy ^ Me. Things I write ~> Drives: 2001 Camaro SS m6 - Bone stock Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Vegas Posts: 293	He means get the computer programmed. __________________ ndtguy - Matt Toy: 2001 Camaro SS m6 - SLP lid, free ram-air mod, poly sway bar bushings/end linksBMR springs and bilsteins. DD: 2002 Dodge Stratus/2005 Dodge Durango Associate with men of good quality, if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company.

05-22-2012, 06:31 AM	#9
demonspeed Drives: 2002 BRR SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,619	IMO, I'd have this one repaired correctly. ABS is not really anything you'd want to mess around with. The only time ABS INOP should show up in which you'd ignore it is when you're on the dyno. Your ASR and ABS work together, so like it or not, you may have to pull things apart because at the end of the day, they aren't just an annoying light making you shift or keeping the smog nazi's away. __________________ '05 GTO\|'02 SS\|'01 Z28\|'00 SS\|'93 GT\|'91 Z28\|'89 IROC-Z

05-22-2012, 07:54 AM	#10
insidethreat07 4-17-11 Drives: 2001 Camaro 3.8 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Continental Ohio Posts: 12,902 View My Garage	The guy that installed it said he would put it back in if I can get the reluctor ring off the open differential. So I guess ill see if I can get it off somehow. I would really like to keep my ABS if I could. __________________ 2001 Camaro 3.8 V6 Silver Hockey Stripes, Berger Panel, Cardinal Red Camaro Rear Insert, 10 Spoke SS Wheels, Bowtie Center Caps, BMR Shock Tower Brace, Air Silencer Delete, Shaved Intake Lid, K&N Air Filter, Whistler Headlights, Eaton Limited slip, UMI Rear LCAs & PHB, Nitto 555, Flowmaster Axle Back Exhaust Soon To Be Added: Pacesetter Mid-Tube Headers & Y-Pipe, 3'' High Flow Catalytic Converter, SS Front & Rear Sway Bars.

05-22-2012, 09:11 AM	#11
demonspeed Drives: 2002 BRR SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,619	You can always buy a new one if it came down to it. I want to emphasize that this is not a case of simply a light. Your ABS is not working without that ring. __________________ '05 GTO\|'02 SS\|'01 Z28\|'00 SS\|'93 GT\|'91 Z28\|'89 IROC-Z

05-22-2012, 01:13 PM	#14
insidethreat07 4-17-11 Drives: 2001 Camaro 3.8 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Continental Ohio Posts: 12,902 View My Garage	Well I got the reluctor ring off. Hopefully install it sometime next week and ill have ABS again and hopefully my ASR light will go off as well. __________________ 2001 Camaro 3.8 V6 Silver Hockey Stripes, Berger Panel, Cardinal Red Camaro Rear Insert, 10 Spoke SS Wheels, Bowtie Center Caps, BMR Shock Tower Brace, Air Silencer Delete, Shaved Intake Lid, K&N Air Filter, Whistler Headlights, Eaton Limited slip, UMI Rear LCAs & PHB, Nitto 555, Flowmaster Axle Back Exhaust Soon To Be Added: Pacesetter Mid-Tube Headers & Y-Pipe, 3'' High Flow Catalytic Converter, SS Front & Rear Sway Bars.

05-22-2012, 01:44 PM	#15
demonspeed Drives: 2002 BRR SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,619	Yep, your ASR light will go off with that fix __________________ '05 GTO\|'02 SS\|'01 Z28\|'00 SS\|'93 GT\|'91 Z28\|'89 IROC-Z

05-22-2012, 03:46 PM	#16
insidethreat07 4-17-11 Drives: 2001 Camaro 3.8 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Continental Ohio Posts: 12,902 View My Garage	Awesome. I hate having the lights on in the dash. Lol. Either getting installed next Tuesday or Wednesday. __________________ 2001 Camaro 3.8 V6 Silver Hockey Stripes, Berger Panel, Cardinal Red Camaro Rear Insert, 10 Spoke SS Wheels, Bowtie Center Caps, BMR Shock Tower Brace, Air Silencer Delete, Shaved Intake Lid, K&N Air Filter, Whistler Headlights, Eaton Limited slip, UMI Rear LCAs & PHB, Nitto 555, Flowmaster Axle Back Exhaust Soon To Be Added: Pacesetter Mid-Tube Headers & Y-Pipe, 3'' High Flow Catalytic Converter, SS Front & Rear Sway Bars.

05-30-2012, 11:35 AM	#20
insidethreat07 4-17-11 Drives: 2001 Camaro 3.8 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Continental Ohio Posts: 12,902 View My Garage	Any idea where I could get a reluctor ring for that eaton posi? We tried putting the old one one and ended up breaking it. Any info would be awesome. Derek. __________________ 2001 Camaro 3.8 V6 Silver Hockey Stripes, Berger Panel, Cardinal Red Camaro Rear Insert, 10 Spoke SS Wheels, Bowtie Center Caps, BMR Shock Tower Brace, Air Silencer Delete, Shaved Intake Lid, K&N Air Filter, Whistler Headlights, Eaton Limited slip, UMI Rear LCAs & PHB, Nitto 555, Flowmaster Axle Back Exhaust Soon To Be Added: Pacesetter Mid-Tube Headers & Y-Pipe, 3'' High Flow Catalytic Converter, SS Front & Rear Sway Bars.

05-30-2012, 12:32 PM	#21
demonspeed Drives: 2002 BRR SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,619	LS1tech classifieds would be my first search. __________________ '05 GTO\|'02 SS\|'01 Z28\|'00 SS\|'93 GT\|'91 Z28\|'89 IROC-Z

05-30-2012, 08:34 PM	#22
insidethreat07 4-17-11 Drives: 2001 Camaro 3.8 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Continental Ohio Posts: 12,902 View My Garage	Yeah I'm going to kook around. I don't understand how it could snap lol __________________ 2001 Camaro 3.8 V6 Silver Hockey Stripes, Berger Panel, Cardinal Red Camaro Rear Insert, 10 Spoke SS Wheels, Bowtie Center Caps, BMR Shock Tower Brace, Air Silencer Delete, Shaved Intake Lid, K&N Air Filter, Whistler Headlights, Eaton Limited slip, UMI Rear LCAs & PHB, Nitto 555, Flowmaster Axle Back Exhaust Soon To Be Added: Pacesetter Mid-Tube Headers & Y-Pipe, 3'' High Flow Catalytic Converter, SS Front & Rear Sway Bars.

05-30-2012, 10:35 PM	#23
insidethreat07 4-17-11 Drives: 2001 Camaro 3.8 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Continental Ohio Posts: 12,902 View My Garage	Will this work even tho it says 2.73 and 3.08 http://www.ebay.com/itm/ACDELCO-OE-S...sories&vxp=mtr __________________ 2001 Camaro 3.8 V6 Silver Hockey Stripes, Berger Panel, Cardinal Red Camaro Rear Insert, 10 Spoke SS Wheels, Bowtie Center Caps, BMR Shock Tower Brace, Air Silencer Delete, Shaved Intake Lid, K&N Air Filter, Whistler Headlights, Eaton Limited slip, UMI Rear LCAs & PHB, Nitto 555, Flowmaster Axle Back Exhaust Soon To Be Added: Pacesetter Mid-Tube Headers & Y-Pipe, 3'' High Flow Catalytic Converter, SS Front & Rear Sway Bars.

05-30-2012, 11:11 PM	#24
insidethreat07 4-17-11 Drives: 2001 Camaro 3.8 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Continental Ohio Posts: 12,902 View My Garage	Doing a little digging Part # 26014607 http://parts-catalog.acdelco.com/catalog/BuyersGuideSearch.php?BGRequest=1&part=26014607 &catalog=5570&parttype=2072 and it says "2001 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K" Which mine is so it sounds like it fits __________________ 2001 Camaro 3.8 V6 Silver Hockey Stripes, Berger Panel, Cardinal Red Camaro Rear Insert, 10 Spoke SS Wheels, Bowtie Center Caps, BMR Shock Tower Brace, Air Silencer Delete, Shaved Intake Lid, K&N Air Filter, Whistler Headlights, Eaton Limited slip, UMI Rear LCAs & PHB, Nitto 555, Flowmaster Axle Back Exhaust Soon To Be Added: Pacesetter Mid-Tube Headers & Y-Pipe, 3'' High Flow Catalytic Converter, SS Front & Rear Sway Bars.

05-31-2012, 08:55 AM	#25
demonspeed Drives: 2002 BRR SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,619	"If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit." Looks like it fits, so go for it. __________________ '05 GTO\|'02 SS\|'01 Z28\|'00 SS\|'93 GT\|'91 Z28\|'89 IROC-Z