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Old 05-26-2009, 12:15 PM   #1
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irpq11 needs help. Car here this week. Question.

Ok guys. I need your help. Dealer faxed my full price this morning to the office. $43,996.02

Acceptable to me. Remember, I ordered the 21" wheels. Anyway, this price is lock stock and barrel. After tax-tag-and everything. The only thing is the 'Undercoat'. 600.00 for the undercoat. I've heard and been told not to do it that it voids the factory warranty.

Should I let them undercoat or not? . Thanx in advance.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:17 PM   #2
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I wouldn't...especially down your way, that stuff makes a mess
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:20 PM   #3
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no sir, i think that undercoat, clearcoat and all the other crap is a waste of money
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:22 PM   #4
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I've heard that all cars come with an undercoating of some kind on them from the factory, but I really have no idea. But I'll bump your thread
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:24 PM   #5
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No need to do it Alabama. How much snow and salt do you see down there??

Id just take it to an undercar rinse every few months (I grew up on the gulf as well but in TX) and you should be good. No need to waste more money!
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:51 PM   #7
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Hell yes I'm ready. So, no undercoat. Anyone know if it voids the warranty for rust or anything else?
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:54 PM   #8
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Congratulations!!! Do not get the undercoat. It is just another way for the dealer to make money on $20 worth of material. I used to spray undercoat at a Mazda dealership and there is no way to do a neat job. You'll be sorry everytime you crawl under your car. All new cars have a type of wax dip coating from the factory whether it's black or clear. The dealer undercoatings will eventually crack and form pockets that will hold water against the body.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:59 PM   #9
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Hell yes I'm ready. So, no undercoat. Anyone know if it voids the warranty for rust or anything else?

irpq11,

Your in the South.

Ya got no snow and the salt that comes with it.

The only thing an undercoat would do for you, is trap any moisture that was there when they applied it, if they even do!

It is simply a way for them to put they're hand in your pocket.

Call them NOW.

Tell them NO.

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Old 05-26-2009, 01:02 PM   #10
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On a side note...good news! Your car, like mine, isn't on the tracker! (Gives me some hope that it's coming soon ) Hehe.

(Did you get factory stripes?)
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:03 PM   #11
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+1, NO it wont void your warranty. Cars now-a-days are much more resilient to the salt or what ever they are putting on the roads than 30 years ago.

More over, if they try to tell you that it will void your warranty if they dont put it on, then ask them why it didnt come with it from the factory. Because it's not REQUIRED! Just like everyone else is saying, dont waste your money, that's 500 bucks pure profit for the dealership, and that's it. Especially in AL, you wont need it.
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If it voided your warranty not to have it.... the factory would apply it.

Salt on the roads in Alabama ??? .... maybe when the next Ice Age begins.
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:30 PM   #13
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I second everyone. in fact I used to work at a place that was a subcontractor for dealers to put that stuff on cars. I don't even remember the exact price but the tubs of the stuff was REALLY cheap and in reality it was crap. Don't waste the money!
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:32 PM   #15
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(Did you get factory stripes?)
No factory stripes. I stayed away from anything that could delay my car and can just be put on or installed later. Can you pull your window sticker up yet?





Thanks for all the input guys.

The question was actually will the dealer udercoat void the warranty if they put it on. But I'm calling right now to cancel it. Talked to Scott Sherman too. He agrees with you guys.
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Old 05-26-2009, 02:36 PM   #16
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Hell yes I'm ready. So, no undercoat. Anyone know if it voids the warranty for rust or anything else?
back in my detailing days at ford, if a customer payed for undercoating the OE warranty for rust and corrosion was void.

the undercoating product company picked up the warranty, and it was longer than the OE's.

but i wouldn't do it, especially for you in the south!

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Old 05-26-2009, 02:36 PM   #17
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No factory stripes. I stayed away from anything that could delay my car and can just be put on or installed later. Can you pull your window sticker up yet?
Nope...not yet. That's what has me worried...and of course (my luck), my dealer has just now started becoming useless. (I think he's more interested in his golf game these days). Every time I email...no response. On Facebook he's always golfing.

I may shoot to the dealership this weekend if I haven't heard from him by then.
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Old 05-26-2009, 02:48 PM   #18
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No do not let them do it.

It's already galvanized unless you live near the coast you'll never need it.

If you want DIY use Hammerite Rust Cap and or POR 15 products.

I use Hammerite on the old cars I flip (I buy used POS as a hobby and sell them after fixing a bit).
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As the HAMMERITE Rust Cap coating dries, millions of heat-hardened glass flakes interlock with special resins, forming a super-tough barrier that seals out moisture to prevent rusting.

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Old 05-26-2009, 02:52 PM   #19
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don't Get it !

The undercoating is a scam....

BTW I have a bridge for sale
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Old 05-26-2009, 02:54 PM   #20
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I would not have it done---no way it'll void the warranty. Drove my F-Bod for 16 years as a Daily Driver----ZERO rust!!!
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Old 05-26-2009, 02:55 PM   #21
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Undercoating's pointless. My dad refused it on a countless number of cars and they all held up well to whatever ODOT throws on the ground during winter.
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Old 05-26-2009, 03:09 PM   #22
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Some places it's good if you lot of road salt or places like Hawaii, Galveston etc.

But 600 bucks.. .hell no.

Buy the stuff I listed and DIY. Make sure you do NOT get that hammerite on your skin wear suit and eye protection. You can put it all over the place I have it under my battery trays and on suspension bars etc etc. Comes in colors too.

It's more a Euro thing still coming to Amerika.
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No undercoating. If you are really worried about chips and stuff, you could always have Lizard Skin applied later.
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I wouldn't, looks to clean to undercoat it.
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why would a dealer recommend something that would void your warranty
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