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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Drives: 2011 CGM Camaro LS A6 Join Date: Jan 2011
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Drag 60' Experts!
I'm looking for some help on decreasing my 60' times. I run a 2.4-2.6 60' consistently. I have a v6 Auto Camaro with bf goodrich all seasons. No suspension mods and a few minor bolt ons.
Anyone have any ideas to what could help me lower my 60' times? P.S. I don't believe I get any wheel hop or anything like that since it seems like I launch really well everytime but I want those times down
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60' time is about two things..power and traction.
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How are you launching? I found I got my best time by "flashing" the torque converter. Basically I would only raise the RPMs to just above idle, and then when you are ready to launch, simple let of the brake (with your left foot) and smash the gas (with the right)... I would leave traction control on and watch to see if the TC light starts flashing, indicating that you are spinning... Also what PSI are your running in your tires?
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Btw I am no expert at this. Just trying to help and learn myself
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My guess is those all season tires aren't helping much.
But I would gently roll into the gas. To launch just hold the car (close to idle rpms) in place with the brake. Then to launch just roll (do not floor the gas) into the gas. You can roll slowly at first (to test for traction). If your tires are hooking, then you can speed up how quickly you roll into the gas. If your pulling 2.4 sec 60' times you're spinning too much. So you need to get off the line more gently (thus the roll into the gas).
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I've got the exact same setup and at the track I was getting consistent 2.2 60'.
The way I was launching was Turn off all nannies Put it in manual mode (For fun), No burnout. Once the car was staged I would bring the RPM up to about 3200. From that point I could just floor it with no wheel spin. The biggest thing I learned was to leave on the third yellow not the green. Hope this helps a little.
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tires, tires, tires, tires
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Stall converter and V8 limited slip diff. The TC will improve 1/4 mile times by .4-.5 seconds by itself if you have traction.
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I agree with Sc2150 get a converter . Dropped my 60 by .3 and the 1/4 mile by .7
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Some threads are misleading, as there are people who say leaving traction control and/or stability track active will hinder 1/4 mile times, while others say it improves times. It seems like you have tons of drag experience under your belt , so I'd like to hear your expert opinion on the matter. Thanks a ton Tracy.
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So...,
OP - are you talking about mods like converters or just how to make what you have work?
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Just how to make what I have better. I'm pretty good with the tree. When I'm trying to test for traction, I usually cut a .2 reaction time. But when I'm really trying for that perfect run I cut .05 reaction times consistently.
I usually raise the rpms to 1000 and launch with all the nannies on. I dont burnout. Should I? I have about 34 psi in the tires. I've been told it wont help if i lower it but I could be wrong. I'm planning on new tires but i wanted to know what i could improve on. The ipf supercharged car cuts a 1.8 60 ft with the same wheels and tires so I just assume its possible to improve.
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Who ever it was that told you lowering your air pressure would'nt help...lied to you.
drop them down to 25-28 psi and see for yourself. I can run 1.92- 1.94 short lights all day long on stock p-zero's.
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If you are spinning then perhaps your tires are simply shot. As a starting point lower psi to about 30 and /or heat the tires. Stay out of the water. You might get better with even lower pressure, but then the car will start to float around on the big end.
If you are not spinning, then TC off & ST off. Other than that, drop some weight, or add power. Note you would have to drop hundreds of pounds to see much difference. A lighter wheel & tire package will help. Finally, I dont think it's a fair comparison to size up a NA and FI car. Most of that difference is simply power that shows up after the launch and track conditions.
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Well I spin slightly but nothing major, maybe lowering the tire pressure will help. I'll try to warm the tires up a little just to clean them off.
I'm going to try and experiment at the track on Sunday. What about some suspension upgrades that would help? Anything I could do? I want a torque converter but was scared about driveability since my car is a daily driver. Tracy said it wouldn't affect much so I might give it a try.
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Yep, some slicks do the trick. 1.93 with my little NA V6. All nannies off, brake stand to 2.2k (auto) and let her rip.
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Im looking into slicks already.... But last weekend a buddy of mine in a mustang gt left his differential at the line with them.... Safe to say it shocked me lol. I've never seen that
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BTW, I borrowed his slicks for my runs. lol
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Not sure slicks are needed at his power level. I've got an L99 A6 with a 3200 stall and pull 1.74 - 1.76 sec 60' with Nitto drag radials (NT555R).
Gentle roll into the gas launch and some better street radials and you should be good to go at your power level. At the most, maybe some drag radials, but I really don't think they're needed at your power level.
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How many passes with slicks? (the nitrous car)
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With the cold air and great DA there is a trade off. Slicks FTW. LOL
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Since its so hot here, i think at most we need drag radials. At least for the power I push.
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Thread Jack ready to find a new home for these NITTO555R's, 305/40/18 w/TSW wheels.About a dozen passes on them.
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Do you happen to know if those will clear the SS brakes?
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I was actually going to ask if you'd sell them. Pm me what you want for them
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