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2cnd chance · 07-01-2012, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

Nice post Pete, well put, you have made a great argument. Count me in on the "we" aspect of it. Let's get 'er done Chevy. I love my ZL1, it's an unbelievable ride, but it's not a screamin tracked out N/A powered Z/28. Until that time, I'll enjoy this ride to the fullest...which I do every chance I get with free time to ride....but I'm waitn' on the Z's return as prescribed. The LS7 is a screamin' demon.., and now is the time for GM and Chevy to pull the trigger on this model, before the body style change..., I feel sales would not be affected across any model and it's return would enhance Chevy's position in the HP market.

Yes, yes it would.

*DGthe3* · 07-02-2012, 12:28 AM

fyi ... I'm not sure if I've said this publicaly yet but ... at this point I'm between a used SS and a new Z28 (that 'fits' with what I think a Zedder should be)

Hear that GM? If you build a Z28, you will get a sale from me. If you don't, you won't. I shall not be buying a new SS or a new ZL1

*ps* I just noticed that Lowdowns posting style may be rubbing off on me ... lol

Bhobbs · 07-09-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

fyi ... I'm not sure if I've said this publicaly yet but ... at this point I'm between a used SS and a new Z28 (that 'fits' with what I think a Zedder should be)

Hear that GM? If you build a Z28, you will get a sale from me. If you don't, you won't. I shall not be buying a new SS or a new ZL1

*ps* I just noticed that Lowdowns posting style may be rubbing off on me ... lol

I don't think they are listening. If they were, why have they been ignoring the Z28 crowd this long?

rmyers · 07-09-2012, 10:59 AM

I doubt they are ignoring the customer base with regards to the Z/28. I suspect they are waiting to offer it in the next generation with the lighter platform that was developed for Cadillac. JMO

Bhobbs · 07-09-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rmyers

I doubt they are ignoring the customer base with regards to the Z/28. I suspect they are waiting to offer it in the next generation with the lighter platform that was developed for Cadillac. JMO

If that's the case, they need to stop telling us to "stay tuned" and just say there will be no 5th gen Z28.

LOWDOWN · 07-09-2012, 12:55 PM

"Never say NEVER!"

Bhobbs · 07-09-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

"Never say NEVER!"

I'm not saying never, I'm saying I need a car and if I buy a Camaro, it won't be an SS. I would consider the 1LE but I still think it could use more HP.

rmyers · 07-09-2012, 02:08 PM

Well can't they say "stay tuned" and still offer a Z/28...isn't "stay tuned" inferring something will happen in the future? How long after the ZL1 was announced was it actually available for customers to take delivery? 1 year? If you need a car, it doesn't do any good to wait on a Z/28. If they announced it today, you couldn't get your hands on it until next year anyway. Assuming your 1998 Z/28 is stock, the current 2SS will outperform it by leaps and bounds. If it is not stock, then get the 1LE and take it straight to the performance shop.

LOWDOWN · 07-09-2012, 02:32 PM

The line of ZEE-lievers starts here:

X.................................................. .................................................. ......................

...and it already includes enough "hands" to keep Oshawa very busy for more than a few hours' total production...

"Keep those cards 'n letters coming"...

BTW, with the recent "bargain-basement" pricing of the 1LE Package ($3,500 extra on 1SS/2SS), a mid-to-upper $40s Z28 with 475+ hp would make a terrific and saleable "Track Rat"...no doubt it would be the CEO.

1LE Pricing: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234654

Bhobbs · 07-09-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rmyers

Well can't they say "stay tuned" and still offer a Z/28...isn't "stay tuned" inferring something will happen in the future? How long after the ZL1 was announced was it actually available for customers to take delivery? 1 year? If you need a car, it doesn't do any good to wait on a Z/28. If they announced it today, you couldn't get your hands on it until next year anyway. Assuming your 1998 Z/28 is stock, the current 2SS will outperform it by leaps and bounds. If it is not stock, then get the 1LE and take it straight to the performance shop.

True and it's not that I desperately need a car. I should say I want to buy a new car. I like the looks of the Camaro so I want to buy one. I test drove an SS manual and it was fun but not what I was expecting. I guess if I get some more time behind the wheel and get a better feel for the car I would like it more. Maybe the 1LE will be what I am looking for, I just like the history of the Z28 and hope to see it return.

LOWDOWN · 07-09-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

1SS/1LE = < $40K

'13 BOSS LS = $49K

LS7 "crate" - LS3 "crate = $7K; add Recaros = <$50K

Now that the 1LE Option has been priced ($3,500 extra on either 1SS or 2SS), the price disparity from ZL1 to 1SS/1LE is a whopping $18 GRAND at Base Price!

Rationale for a Z28? Mid-$40s suddenly looks like a very attractive (and currently barren) performance Camaro territory...

Bhobbs · 07-09-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Now that the 1LE Option has been priced ($3,500 extra on either 1SS or 2SS), the price disparity from ZL1 to 1SS/1LE is a whopping $18 GRAND at Base Price!

Rationale for a Z28? Mid-$40s suddenly looks like a very attractive (and currently barren) performance Camaro territory...

Do you have a link for this?

2cnd chance · 07-09-2012, 03:45 PM

$3,500. I'm impressed at the value. Great job GM!

BTW, The very fact that nothing is said is the very reason for optimism.

LOWDOWN · 07-09-2012, 03:46 PM

Your wish is my command:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234654

Remember, though, Dual Mode is an extra for the extra...

2cnd chance · 07-09-2012, 03:48 PM

What's the guess at a 1SS/1LE based Z28 as we've outlined?

LOWDOWN · 07-09-2012, 03:51 PM

Minus LS3 + LS7 + Dual Mode + Cloth Recaros @ about $11Gs, give 'r take...

Where's that darn checkbook?!

Bhobbs · 07-09-2012, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Your wish is my command:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234654

Remember, though, Dual Mode is an extra for the extra...

Awesome. Thank you.

BoostedX2 · 07-09-2012, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Minus LS3 + LS7 + Dual Mode + Cloth Recaros @ about $11Gs, give 'r take...

Where's that darn checkbook?!

Is that 11Gs on top of a $33,535 1SS base or %44,535? i am in! Don't need no stinkin Recaros or Dual mode (-at least $1500, make them options!)

Price without DM and Recaros: $43K?? Is that possible?

Bhobbs · 07-09-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr T

Is that 11Gs on top of a $33,535 1SS base or %44,535? i am in! Don't need no stinkin Recaros or Dual mode (-at least $1500, make them options!)

Price without DM and Recaros: $43K?? Is that possible?

I'm guessing $11k on top of the 1SS price. Anything is possible when you are just taking wild ass guesses about what may or may not come in the future.

2cnd chance · 07-09-2012, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Minus LS3 + LS7 + Dual Mode + Cloth Recaros @ about $11Gs, give 'r take...

Where's that darn checkbook?!

ZL1 front brakes?

2cnd chance · 07-09-2012, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T

Is that 11Gs on top of a $33,535 1SS base or %44,535? i am in! Don't need no stinkin Recaros or Dual mode (-at least $1500, make them options!)

Price without DM and Recaros: $43K?? Is that possible?

$11K on top of $36K

A $45-47K Z28 will sell like...

Gramps69Z · 07-09-2012, 04:50 PM

Bhobbs · 07-09-2012, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

$11K on top of $36K

A $45-47K Z28 will sell like...

The 1LE being cheaper than a lot of people thought makes a Z28 more likely in my opinion.

2cnd chance · 07-09-2012, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The 1LE being cheaper than a lot of people thought makes a Z28 more likely in my opinion.

See post #1663.

BoostedX2 · 07-09-2012, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

$11K on top of $36K

A $45-47K Z28 will sell like...

Call me confused--I looked up the 1SS price plus destination and added 11K??

07-02-2012, 12:28 AM	#1652
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 20,715	fyi ... I'm not sure if I've said this publicaly yet but ... at this point I'm between a used SS and a new Z28 (that 'fits' with what I think a Zedder should be) Hear that GM? If you build a Z28, you will get a sale from me. If you don't, you won't. I shall not be buying a new SS or a new ZL1 ps I just noticed that Lowdowns posting style may be rubbing off on me ... lol __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Quote: In 2014 the camaro will have ... a twin turbo v6 ... around 350 to 360HP No. Let me repeat that. No. FbodFather __________________ Camaro5 Fest III Information Camaro5 Fest III pre-registration

07-09-2012, 10:59 AM	#1654
rmyers Drives: Both American Made Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 717	I doubt they are ignoring the customer base with regards to the Z/28. I suspect they are waiting to offer it in the next generation with the lighter platform that was developed for Cadillac. JMO __________________ 2012 ZL1 M6 Black on Black 2013 ZL1 Convertible Auto 2010 Chevrolet Suburban 2011 GMC Seirra HD Denali

07-09-2012, 12:55 PM	#1656
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 3,245	"Never say NEVER!" __________________ . *"It's what you learn, after* you know everything, that's really important" ... Sam Foose . "NOTHING matters...until you CARE"** ... and that's a LOWDOWN Truth "GOOD ENOUGH"...NEVER IS - Debbi Fields. *"STAY TUNED"*

07-09-2012, 02:08 PM	#1658
rmyers Drives: Both American Made Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 717	Well can't they say "stay tuned" and still offer a Z/28...isn't "stay tuned" inferring something will happen in the future? How long after the ZL1 was announced was it actually available for customers to take delivery? 1 year? If you need a car, it doesn't do any good to wait on a Z/28. If they announced it today, you couldn't get your hands on it until next year anyway. Assuming your 1998 Z/28 is stock, the current 2SS will outperform it by leaps and bounds. If it is not stock, then get the 1LE and take it straight to the performance shop. __________________ 2012 ZL1 M6 Black on Black 2013 ZL1 Convertible Auto 2010 Chevrolet Suburban 2011 GMC Seirra HD Denali

07-09-2012, 02:32 PM	#1659
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 3,245	The line of ZEE-*lievers* starts here: X.................................................. .................................................. ...................... ...and it already includes enough "hands" to keep Oshawa very busy for more than a few hours' total production... "Keep those cards 'n letters coming"... BTW, with the recent "bargain-basement" pricing of the 1LE Package ($3,500 extra on 1SS/2SS), a mid-to-upper $40s Z28 with 475+ hp would make a terrific and saleable "Track Rat"...no doubt it would be the CEO. 1LE Pricing: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234654 __________________ . *"It's what you learn, after* you know everything, that's really important" ... Sam Foose . "NOTHING matters...until you CARE"** ... and that's a LOWDOWN Truth "GOOD ENOUGH"...NEVER IS - Debbi Fields. *"STAY TUNED"*

07-09-2012, 03:45 PM	#1663
2cnd chance It Will Be Mine Drives: A 2014 Z28 or a C7? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 4,257	$3,500. I'm impressed at the value. Great job GM! BTW, The very fact that nothing is said is the very reason for optimism.

07-09-2012, 03:46 PM	#1664
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 3,245	Your wish is my command: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234654 Remember, though, Dual Mode is an extra for the extra... __________________ . *"It's what you learn, after* you know everything, that's really important" ... Sam Foose . "NOTHING matters...until you CARE"** ... and that's a LOWDOWN Truth "GOOD ENOUGH"...NEVER IS - Debbi Fields. *"STAY TUNED"*

07-09-2012, 03:48 PM	#1665
2cnd chance It Will Be Mine Drives: A 2014 Z28 or a C7? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 4,257	What's the guess at a 1SS/1LE based Z28 as we've outlined?

07-09-2012, 03:51 PM	#1666
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 3,245	Minus LS3 + LS7 + Dual Mode + Cloth Recaros @ about $11Gs, give 'r take... Where's that darn checkbook?! __________________ . *"It's what you learn, after* you know everything, that's really important" ... Sam Foose . "NOTHING matters...until you CARE"** ... and that's a LOWDOWN Truth "GOOD ENOUGH"...NEVER IS - Debbi Fields. *"STAY TUNED"*

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