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Old 05-26-2009, 03:15 PM   #26
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Ok guys. I got it.

I called and had them cancel the undercoating. He didn't seem to care either way.
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:02 PM   #27
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POR15 is great stuff.

GM has a 100k/6yr rust and corrosion warranty on Chevy products. Keep it clean and you wont have a problem.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:15 PM   #28
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Ok guys. I got it.

I called and had them cancel the undercoating. He didn't seem to care either way.
Dude, the undercoat is a must!! You really need to get it.




























































































Kidding .......undercoat is pointless
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:17 PM   #29
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Yeah man, don't bother with it. Besides, even if the car does oxidize; if you have your warranty, it's their problem, not yours. :P

Either way, enjoy the car man! You've had it loooong coming.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:22 PM   #30
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I'll tell you what, when I told him to scratch the undercoating he said something about kevlar coating on the paint or something like that. to shine it up real good. The only kevlar I ever knew was our flack-jackets and helmets in the Army. I said NO thank you, I'll wax the car myself.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:34 PM   #31
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POR 15 the problem with it is if you don't use the spray primer. It tends to chip after a couple years. So I have kinda blown it off because the Hammerite does not flake or chip.
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:41 PM   #32
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I also say no to undercoating. Years ago (15-20), there was a big undercoating business in this area. (New England) The product names were Z-Bart (oil based material) and later "Rusty Jones" which was a paraffin based product. All the dealers provided it, and you could get it privately as well. I think it helped a bit, but there were other problems such as the undercoating getting into the door locks and so forth. They used to drill holes all over the place and squirt it inside of the panels, and then pop in little plugs.

Another problem was that it would block the passages and holes that are designed to drain water. For example, most car doors have small holes at the bottom so that any water that gets by the window can drain out. Block those holes and the water just sits in there.

Well, in the last 10 years or so, I don't think you can find anyone who does undercoating any more around here. Apparently it either does not work, or the cars don't need it. If you drive your car in the winter around here, it's gonna rust, no matter what.
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:42 PM   #33
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irpq11...seems like your dealer is working all the angles (to get in your pocket)...now you need to worry about the Document Fee he is going hit you with...there is a good thread here with #'s from zero $ to $299. Be informed, be aware and be ready. Good Luck.
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:43 PM   #34
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Dude, the undercoat is a must!! You really need to get it.

Kidding .......undercoat is pointless
Have you ever SEEN snow in SC?
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I also say no to undercoating. Years ago (15-20), there was a big undercoating business in this area. (New England) The product names were Z-Bart (oil based material) and later "Rusty Jones" which was a paraffin based product. All the dealers provided it, and you could get it privately as well. I think it helped a bit, but there were other problems such as the undercoating getting into the door locks and so forth. They used to drill holes all over the place and squirt it inside of the panels, and then pop in little plugs.

Another problem was that it would block the passages and holes that are designed to drain water. For example, most car doors have small holes at the bottom so that any water that gets by the window can drain out. Block those holes and the water just sits in there.

Well, in the last 10 years or so, I don't think you can find anyone who does undercoating any more around here. Apparently it either does not work, or the cars don't need it. If you drive your car in the winter around here, it's gonna rust, no matter what.
Wow...Rusty Jones...that's a name I haven't heard in YEARS! My grandfather's car had it...and they put a sticker on his window of "Rusty." He wore a plaid shirt...had red hair and matching red mustache.

EDIT: Ok, I was wrong about the plaid shirt...but I did find the picture of the sticker
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Say no to undercoating. And go get your beauty and drive away quickly. Very quickly.

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Old 05-26-2009, 11:53 PM   #37
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Ok guys. I need your help. Dealer faxed my full price this morning to the office. $43,996.02

Acceptable to me. Remember, I ordered the 21" wheels. Anyway, this price is lock stock and barrel. After tax-tag-and everything. The only thing is the 'Undercoat'. 600.00 for the undercoat. I've heard and been told not to do it that it voids the factory warranty.

Should I let them undercoat or not? . Thanx in advance.
GM states these cars are already designed not to rust, and are warranted against rusting or rusting through. If you want it wait a few years. At this point it is just wasted money.
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[QUOTE=LadiesMan217;521793]Wow...Obi Wan Kanobi...that's a name I haven't heard in YEARS!
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:02 AM   #39
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GM states these cars are already designed not to rust, and are warranted against rusting or rusting through. If you want it wait a few years. At this point it is just wasted money.
Canceled it today. Car should be here Sturday or he said the latest Monday. But what is this Kevlar coat for the paint? Of course I said NO but anyone heard of it?
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Nope Nope Nope

Never undercoat. Glad you got it cancelled.
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Old 05-27-2009, 01:31 AM   #41
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Read the owners manual...........it says NO.
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Old 05-27-2009, 01:41 AM   #42
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I've heard that all cars come with an undercoating of some kind on them from the factory, but I really have no idea. But I'll bump your thread
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No factory stripes. I stayed away from anything that could delay my car and can just be put on or installed later. Can you pull your window sticker up yet?





Thanks for all the input guys.

The question was actually will the dealer udercoat void the warranty if they put it on. But I'm calling right now to cancel it. Talked to Scott Sherman too. He agrees with you guys.
GOOD! DO NOT DO IT!

I could possibly understand if you lived in Chicago or something. But down there?...nope. The underside of the car will last forever, man.
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Now if this was a 73 or 74 Chevy pickup I would highly do the underside and also over the paint............these were rust buckets if I ever seen one. You should be good without it...........good idea cancelling..........now use that money wisely and enter Bonnie in another contest.
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Read the owners manual...........it says NO.
Is the owners manual out on the net yet?
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They already hit him with the document fee and then some other crazy fee. We chatted about it on the phone yesterday.
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POR15 is great stuff.

GM has a 100k/6yr rust and corrosion warranty on Chevy products. Keep it clean and you wont have a problem.
What he said.....keep it clean and you will not have a problem.....I live in a snow belt and quit undercoating my vehicles many vehicles ago! I give the car, especially under, a good rinsing at least once every two weeks and have had no rusties!!
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They already hit him with the document fee and then some other crazy fee. We chatted about it on the phone yesterday.
paid $45.00 for that fee not to bad.also i am paying cash for it so what paper work do they really have
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:54 AM   #49
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Yup, got 250.00 clerical fee and 250.00 delivery fee. That's basicaly 500.00 over MSRP that I'm paying but I can live with it. That's the whole deal so it's not a deal breaker for me.
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Delivery fee?? WTF! That is what the destination charge is for.

The clerical fee is PURE dealership BS. When we bought our Malibu they tried to get us to pay $450 for the same thing. I immediately got pissed and said Im only paying what it actually costs to title the vehicle. Took about 2 seconds for the salesman to understand that I was VERY serious and it got changed to $27.50.
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